Short Luteal Phase Gang!

[Beau20]

I started a thread a while ago asking for success stories but now I would love to get all the girls together who are struggling to conceive with their short Luteal Phase!

Here's a little bit about me -

TTC #1
Cycle 7
28 years old
Luteal phase average 9-10 days longest being 11 days.
Ovulation CD17-18 cycles 26-28 days long

I have had 2 pregnancies before (both termination please no flaming) both conceived without even trying, one with my current partner of 6 years. I also had a chemical in January. My last contraception was Nexplanon for 1 year and before that I was on the pill for 10 years or so (which was when I conceived previous). I have been taking 50mg sertraline for 6 months then 100mg sertraline for 6 months after that and have just stopped completely today. This is the only thing I have been doing differently since I conceived last time so part of me thinks this may affect fertility.

I'd love to hear about everyone else's journey! x

Sorry typo my LP was 9/10 days not 7. That would be extreme.

@Frazzled2207 thanks for that.

I defo think my underactive thyroid is causing havoc, but they just cannot seem to get it under control; my meds have been increased last week, so am hoping that brings it down!

x

@Proseccoprincess33 are you taking thyroid medication as @Frazzled2207 has said? As for the sertraline, GP never once mentioned anything to me about it affecting fertility however it's the only thing I'm doing differently than last time I conceived so I've been 2 days setraline free now after 2 weeks of weaning off and so far so good! I also took it for anxiety and it made a huge difference. I've been meaning to stop for a while and no time like the present.

@Frazzled2207 thank you for sharing! I'm going to ask on tuesday for a thyroid check as it has been considered in the past I have an under active thyroid. I never really thought about it until now as I've never had issues with getting pregnant before. How long were you trying before you were offered clomid?

@apples24 thank you so much, I appreciate that. I think tracking helps so much!

@ISpeakJive that's reassuring to know you've had success multiple times! thanks for sharing

@Proseccoprincess33 welcome!

@Frazzled2207 thank you for sharing that info

@Frazzled2207 and @Beau20 thanks for your responses. Yes I am on 75mgs of levothyroxine and had my bloods done recently and they came back at 1.68 and recommended level for conception is 2.5 or under. Gp assures me it is fine. I suppose I didn't know whether to ask for day 21 bloods re potential low progesterone or wait a few cycles as I have only been off the pill 4 months. What would yous do? I have ordered vit b 6 as I read good things about it. Another concern I had was endometriosis 🙄 due to heavy and painful periods. i suppose I have been frightening myself and catastrophising everything a bit.

@lunamoon1 thanks for welcome 😊 I hope you are all keeping well x

@Proseccoprincess33 it's hard to say as you've only been off the pill for 4 months but at the same time if they know you have issues with yo out thyroid you'd think they'd try and ensure everything was where it needs to be before TTC. I know if it was me I'd be pushing for everything I could as early as I could

Has anyone else been drinking raspberry leaf tea up until ovulation?

Also! I've just been reading this - very interesting study. Particularly this bit in the conclusion:

Women with a short luteal length in the first observed cycle had significantly lower fertility after the first 6 months of pregnancy attempt, but at 12 months, there was no significant difference in cumulative probability of pregnancy.
Conclusion(s)
Although an isolated cycle with a short luteal phase may negatively impact short-term fertility, incidence of infertility at 12 months was not significantly higher among these women.

Hi ladies.

Found this thread as my current cycles are worrying me slightly.

I'm 33, so is hubby. Ttc #4 but lost #2&3 twin girls at 16 weeks back in September. We left it until january to start trying again. My cycles pre miscarriage were 28 days regular as clockwork and ov around cd14.

Since miscarriage I have 26 day cycles and seem to ov around 18/19/20. This is our 3rd cycle of ttc #4 and got a high opk today. I'm due AF a week on Monday so that's only a 7/8 day luteal phase.

Thinking I'll see my gp sometime soon if we continue to be unsuccessful. Any advice?

@Ejb86 welcome to the gang! So so sorry to hear about your loss, twins as well x

So I went to the GP today and I'm having day 21 bloods and then the 7 day bloods after that. She said if my 7 day FSH bloods come back abnormal she will refer me early to the fertility clinic we have here. I was worrying about her knowing when I had my implant out and she had no idea! I should have lied and said it was 12 months ago... never mind! I'm just so thankful I'm having any sort of test done after only 7 cycles. She said that my luteal phase was abnormal or more that I am ovulating too late in my cycle. And that she also thinks there is a slight 'concern' that my periods are a lot shorter and lighter than they used to be. I'm just glad that she acknowledged my short LP as I've read a lot on here about most GPs totally dismissing it.

Basically she said if my cycles are regular 28 days (which they are) I should be ovulating no later than CD15. However as I ovulate CD17-18 I should be having at least 31 day cycles. She also said because my cycles have always been 28 days my whole life, she seems to think it's more of an ovulation or FSH issue rather then actual progesterone or LP problem. If that makes sense?

How's everyone getting on? Is anyone due to test soon? X

Hi @Beau20 good news on getting the ball rolling with your tests. Your gp sounds good. Nothing happening with me not due to ovulate for two weeks. Got referred to fertility clinic today. The GP wasnt as good as the last one I saw. She just said my spotting was odd. Ive asked if there are any tests i can have whist waiting and she is going to try and refer me for the tube testing one. All my other tests and husband were normal and we havent been a year trying yet so its just the spotting that concerns me. I do think its low progesterone as my level was 33 which seems quite low to me Xx

@Wearenotyourkind I tried the raspberry leaf tea and tablets for months. Did nothing.
Yes odd cycles with LP issues won't affect TTC. But mine is every cycle.

@Beau20 I've been reading up and I think this is maybe true. The LP issue is the effect, rather than the cause? Possibly anyway. I ovulate day 11 which is too early from what I read. Because the egg isn't quite mature enough. Therefore i need to look at that stage. I'm taking vitex. I was looking at maka and ubiquinol earlier, dunno if to try those? Also soy isolates prior to ovulation is said to do the same as clomid (naturally) so that might also be worth a try.

@Beau20 I'm due AF on Monday so I guess we will see.

Hello guys hope you are all well. @beau20 I have asked my gp for day 21 bloods. She didn't seem to give 2 sh1ts just agreed to the bloods. Maybe I should have requested day 7 ones too?

The plot thickens with me. Af started last weeks at 9/10dpo. 2 days into it my temps were still really high so I took a pregnancy test (digi) and it was positive. I took some frers and they got pregressively stronger until yesterday when it went faint.

So I have had a chemical pregnancy and not sure if it was short luteal phase that caused it or if it was an abnormality and luteal phase isn't actually that short. Who knows.

Hope you are all well. At least it's nearly Friday xxx

@Trying2019 my gp said above 30 for progesterone so 33 is good news x

@paintfairy I took soy isoflavones this cycle days 4-8 so I'll let you know how I get on

@Proseccoprincess33 oh I'm so sorry lovely, I had one last month it's awful. Part of me knew my Short LP would just kick the pregnancy out (and it did). My GP didn't seem at all interested about my 2 chemicals and only my luteal phase/late ovulation 🧐🧐

@Beau20 oohhhh, I'll be interested to know!

Thanks @Beau20 sorry for your losses too. It's not easy. Please let us know how you get on with bloods. Maybe mine is more an fsh issue as opposed to love progesterone. My last cycle I ovulated day 19 and af/chemical started day 28. I might ask for day 7 tests also. I hope you get answers and the support you need for a sticky bean 😘

@Proseccoprincess33 sounds just like me. I ovulated CD17, BFP 9 and 10DPO. 11DPO negative and AF CD28.

@Beau20 is this your first you are trying for? And if you don't mind me asking, your first cp? I was surprised at how strong my hpt line was. But I was bleeding by time I got it so I knew it wasn't good. I only checked as temp/bbt was over 37 and my base line is 36.4, so I knew something was up. Are you trying again or waiting for bloods? I'm tempted to try again this month. Hope you're doing OK. I'm having some prosecco to console myself, hence the name lol xx

I'm thinking if trying soy Isoflavones next cycle, so I'd be interested to hear how you get on @Beau20

@Proseccoprincess33 no I'm on my 8th cycle. It was my first 100% confirmed chemical but I'm also pretty sure I had one first month off implant but I only did one pregnancy test and the. AF came 5 days later. I'm 100% still trying. Going all out this month, will wait for bloods and see what they say. From next month onwards if bloods are all fine I'm going to drop all the OPKs and Abu additions!

@Wearenotyourkind well this cycle is interesting as I started high OPKs yesterday CD11 and usually start those CD16. Not sure if it's the isoflavones or what but things are happening much sooner this cycle which is good! I always used to have bang on CD14-15 ovulation. I also had a temp drop yesterday and I've spiked 0.76 this morning (but was drinking last night so I might discount that temp. Just waiting for this mornings OPK to develop. Will keep you posted x

Ooh interesting! @Beau20 I really need to bring my ovulation earlier as it's been CD17/18/19 and today I'm CD17 and just got another flashing smiley. So with a cycle of 26/27 days, which it's what it's been for last few months, my LP is short. I'm on 3rd month of Agnus Castus too and no difference yet. Fingers crossed the Soy Isoflavones helps you!

@Wearenotyourkind I really don't believe in supplements at all but this is a strange coincidence 🙈🙈 my OPK was peak this morning but not peak peak if you know what I mean? I'll probably get max peak tonight/tomorrow am. It's really abnormal for me as my peak has been bang on CD16-17 every single month with ovulation day or 2 after. I'm pretty sure I always used to ovulate CD14-15 so maybe I'm FINALLY regulating. Nothing to say my LP will be 14 days though, it may just be equally as short so shorter cycle.

@Wearenotyourkind I took agnus castus for 3 months no change. I've been off it for 2 months and no change again so it did nothing for me but I've heard it's working for others