The July 19ers - The rollercoaster continues, scream if you wanna go faster

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We can do this ladies.

We can take on anything

That's so annoying Dartmoor - can you get a better picture of it in sunlight? I know FRERs do get indent lines but it's normally quite obvious what they are, evaps that come up in the time limit seem rare.

I'm fine, temp was still high and no period yet but still no line on an ic (although I have no idea what sensitivity they are and suspect they're quite low).

@Kinsters that’s what I get for buying them from eBay I guess! Will grab a couple of cheapies from Lloyd’s on the school run and check with those but I’m pretty sure it’s just a head fuck. My temp is up a bit though - 37.6 - and still creamy CM so fingers and legs and arms and eyes crossed! This is this morning’s test, came up well within time frame but no definition/colour I don’t think 🤷🏻‍♀️ Glad you’re feeling ok, I’ve never had much luck with ICs which is why I bought just FRERs this time around ironically!

Yeah it's still very shadowy and you'd expect more progression now really. Everything crossed for you!

Thanks @Kinsters and @DartmoorDoughnut. Only 7:30am and already 2 pregnant women and not even left the station yet why can't it be me? After coming up to 6 years now since we started TTC and no baby at home 😭😢

Morning all, just jumping on the "bad timing" bandwagon. Had Ov pain yesterday morning and temp shift this morning so I reckon I Ov'd right after a night of no sleep and I had some wine over the weekend (enough to feel a bit hung over on Sun which was stupid). I basically lived on biscuits and coffee yesterday because I was so tired and stressed. The good thing is that we DTD with pre seed the night before Ov and again 2 nights before that's hopefully from that perspective the timing was ok. I just feel like everything has to be completely perfect for me to be in with a chance, and this month I Ov'd on literally the worst possible day of the entire month 

Going to do gentle exercise every day this week (just a brisk dog walk or a quick session on the WattBike) to try and keep my temps up during my LP - last month my temps were low right through until AF arrived although I had every pg symptom under the sun.

@InDreamland you're not alone I feel like an utter failure also, starting to think it's just never going to happen for me. Some people can just "get pregnant" while I seem to need to be wrapped in cotton wool in order for it to happen. And even when I do get pg it doesn't work out. It's just so shit.

Good luck @DartmoorDoughnut I'll be honest I can't see a line but photos are not the best way to see them. It's still early. x

@Betty fx that this will still work out this month for you. Sometimes things happen when you least expect it. This journey is seriously crap, it's long and dark and lonely. No matter what anyone tells you you still feel like it'll never happen and you'll be that tiny statistic who never gets a family.

Thanks for the kind messages about my sleep deprivation btw!

@Rose68 I don't think there's anything medically wrong with DS, he just wants to be with me all the time day and night and wakes up in the night wanting to come and find me. I love that he's so attached to me and gave in for a while and let him sleep in my bed - but while he would sleep and be happier, I didn't sleep because he wriggles about and calls out and punches me in the face until it's time to get up. I've made some progress over the last couple of nights though just persevering with the message that he needs to stay in his lovely new bed and not call out until the sun comes up on his Gro clock. First night (Sunday) was a disaster. Last night a little better, up a couple of times around midnight then stayed in his bed until 6 ... it's going in the right direction.

@BettySwoll0cks everything crossed, sperm live for 5days I think so sounds good!

@InDreamland god I remember those feelings SO well, it took almost 4yrs to conceive my first and it felt like every fucker was pregnant, worst time of my life. So much sympathy xx

Honestly it’s so annoying, there is definitely something there but it isn’t definitive or progressing!

I see what you're seeing Dartmoor and it must be more obvious in person (I don't think it's just my line eyes!). So frustrating. I guess the only thing you can do is wait a couple of days.

Betty I hope this is a breakthrough with your sons sleep. How old is he now? I agree that it's very sweet but you must be exhausted.

@InDreamland you're not useless, you're not a failure. You are not alone in facing these issues. It will happen one day for you I completely empathise with how you're feeling though, the one role that a woman is biologically designed to do... and you struggle to fulfil it. It's so hard. You will be the most wonderful mother though soon, I'm sure x

@Betty yay for the breakthrough! It sounds so hard, I don't know how you cope with it. Hopefully this is the start of a whole night's sleep for you

@Dartmoor I can 100% see something too, especially on the negative one... so frustrating for you. How many dpo are you now? Fx it will start progressing.

@Kinsters how are you feeling this morning?

Hope you're ok @Pegase have been thinking of you xx

Cold is starting to come out in full force, DH also has it too and has called in sick... I'm WFH and really jealous of him tucked up in bed with the dogs. Feeling crampy with my standard achey legs so pretty sure we are out this month (not exactly a surprise).

Sorry have been silent. Just been so ridiculously tired since ERPC. Feels like my mind switches off around 1pm!

Feeling quite daunted about TTC again. If it goes wrong and I end up in hospital again then I will have to start asking if it is worth putting my current family through all this stress.

@Pegase so sorry you are feeling so low.
You need to grieve this first and the right tone will come to ttc again. That may be weeks it may be months. Do what's right for you xx

Pegase yes, you definitely need lots of time to heal and it's so tiring. I didn't feel right for a good couple of weeks post-ERPC and the first week could barely leave the house without feeling absolutely wiped out.

Whether to TTC again is a really personal decision. If I were you I'd take the time to heal now and then discuss it when you're feeling stronger and more yourself.

Hi,
Just a quick message to say I had my scan today and all seems to be OK at the moment! I am soooooo relieved. However, it is still early days so we are being massively cautious.
However, I got to see and hear a heartbeat. It measures approx right for 8 weeks. I think I am more like 8+1 or 8+2 but it's hard to know as I thought I had got the timing all wrong!! So I am happy with that as it is more or less correct.
I have to go back in another 2 weeks at 10 weeks to see if still OK and if it is OK I will have my blood tests done for abnormalities. Can't remember what it is called - NIPT maybe?
I will respond properly either later or tommorrow to other posts but I am so exhausted as they took 4 vials of blood from me too and I am just flat out now....

Aw yay edidxb! Congratulations! I can't believe you're 8 weeks already! It sounds like you've felt ever day of it though!

@Pegase I'm sorry to hear you're feeling so awful. Don't put any pressure on yourself to do anything or to put on a brave face. You've had so much trauma... as for ttc, that's a decision that ultimately only you can make sending lots of hugs (from me and the horses) x

Congrats @edidxb that's fab news! So pleased for you

Thanks @Dartmoor and @rather.

@edidxb that's great news with the scan. Fx little baby is nice and comfy in there for at least the next 32 weeks.

@Betty what you say about your DS reminds me of my sister when she was little, my parents had the same issue .........so they locked the door! Totally not suggesting you do that though but just reminded me. Sounds like good progress you're making though. Have to admit though I'm a little envious as I'd love a LO who kept wanting me, their mummy.

Ha ha I know @InDreamland, you'd have to have nerves of fucking steel though to hear your LO crying for you and not go to them! I could never do it, never left him to cry for more than a few minutes in nearly 3 years. He's such a cherub, but I am a very tired Mummy!!

Awww @Betty, so cute. I know you're tired but also very loving 💗 hopefully soon you'll get a good nights sleep that will also help with conceiving and growing a sibling............I remember when I was little bursting in on mum and dad early in the morning and being told off ........now I know why! Eeeaaauuuggghhhhh!

Yes @InDreamland I think we've all been there as kids! My parents once told my older sister that she was asleep in the bed when I was conceived. She'd have been about 18 months and it's always freaked her out 😂

OMG @Betty 🤣 I think if my parents ever told me that I'd be scarred for life! Definitely would be needing therapy I tell my sister that I changed her nappies and she gets all freaked out ..........well of course I was only little too but my mum let me have a go, it's all play for a little girl right? A real dolly to play with.

My little sister was like your son Betty and would get out of bed at all hours - my parents had loads of success with a sleepy time bunny clock which sounds like the grow clock. When the bunny woke up she was allowed to get out of bed.

My room was next to my parents room and the walls in our house were very thin 😫 I don't remember ever seeing anything though.

Me and DH once got burst in on by DH's teenage brother. It was so embarrassing! Especially because he obviously left straight away but then stood outside the room continuing what he was saying so I had to get up, get dressed and go downstairs to sort out what he wanted! If I remember correctly I'd borrowed his hoody and he couldn't find it (despite it being left in a very obvious place!). He seemed totally unbothered by the whole incident! The joys of living with in-laws... 😂

Wahoo DS went through from 7.30-5.30 with just 1 wake up at 9pm when he had a bad dream. I got into his bed at 5.30 and he eventually fell back to sleep until 7. 👏👏👏👏 I actually had a full night's sleep!!!!

Charting gurus an anyone tell me what this is about on my chart? I Ov CD16 every cycle like clockwork, but what is the dip in temp 2dpo? Does this mean I've had a failed Ov? Something wrong with my progesterone levels? I exercised yesterday and had warm foods and dressed in warm pj's last night to try and keep my temp up but still it's dipped?

Yey @BettySwoll0cks !!

I wouldn't worry about the dip.... mine wasn't a standard climb after Ov... and I got a bfp.....