The July 19ers - STILL never beaten, and rocking our FJs for a lucky thread

[Frazzlerock]

Here it is! Our lucky one 🤞

tigsy it's not pathetic to cry! Your chart looked so positive and you had no warning so its understandable. And yes, the first day of proper bleeding is cycle day one.

Thanks Rose, I really hope thats the case! I've always been too paranoid about everything and this is no exception.

Frazzle It sounds like this is just a temporary blip and things should be ok on the job front then? Are they paying him for the notice period?

Yes @Kinsters they are paying him 3 months thankfully! He could have kicked up a right stink as their should be procedures put in place first, but he left with dignity. He's so much better out of there. Once his three months is over I'm sure he will be writing a shit review on Glassdoor. They actually have loads of shit reviews on there and he took them all with a pinch of salt when he joined 8 months ago. Now he knows they were all spot on!
Yes hopefully just a temporary blip but another fucking hurdle. It's been non stop the past three years.

I sound like such a victim but in the 3.5 years we have been together, DP has had Labyrinthitis (still ongoing now), we lost three babies, we both had mumps, DS1 got shingles and 2.5 years of those 2.5 years DP were at loggerheads re TTC and I was at rock bottom, now DP has lost his job. So, fuck me, Cosmos, give us a fucking break would you!

sorry, 2.5 years of those 3.5 years

@tigsy good news re AF but I totally understand the tears. It's such a rollercoaster and even when you know you are out, you still have some hope
Think of this as a brand new cycle of hope - easier said than done though I know. Look how miserable I've been since AF!

Ah that's great that he gets paid for those 3 month. Obviously its shit that it worked out like it did but at least there's some breathing space for him to regroup and look for another job.

When you write that all down you really have had an awful 3 years.

Ladies, did you all know NHS doesn't recognise the term CP, it's a MC still? Means that actually my MMC would have been MC#3 ? MW was bit miffed as to why I wouldn't have classed them as a MC

Frazzle does sound like he's better off out of there tbh, hope it all settles for him soon!

tigsy oh I am so sorry. I would cry too. I suppose you do know your temp pattern now though and your LP length. Although I know a BFP would have been much more welcomed

Well I have done my usual no temping and no opks so far, I’m currently cd12 and now I’m having my usual stress that I’ve missed it. I would have normally done an opk on cd12, but I forgot 🙄

Oh goodness me - @Frazzle I am so sorry about your DP. I know he is better off out of there like you say and hopefully he can find another job during the next 3 months. More opportunity for BDing if he is not stressed with work? Just trying to look for a positive. Wow - what a 3 years you have been through. Just one of those things would be trying for anyone, never mind them all added together. I am so impressed with your strength x

@tigsy - oh crap. I'm sorry. No wonder you burst into tears. It's just really shit when you get your hopes up. Welcome back to the FF gang! I also had high temps when my AF started this month.

My FF confirmed ovulation today on CD17 so I am on 3DPO today. I am beyond tired. These last 3 weeks of work have been so mental and we have to go in tomorrow (the weekend) from 8am-12pm. I just want to curl into a ball. I went to acupuncture today after work and you get changed into the gown and lie on the bed until the doctor comes in and I almost fell asleep just waiting for her to come in!!

@Rose68 - do you monitor your cervical mucus? If you still have some and it hasn't gone creamy you should still be Ok?

@Twittle I've always assumed CP's were MCs. In fact I think I had one (my 2nd MC). We lost that one the day I got my BFP. I've always classed that one as a MC, never as a CP and even if I did, I wuuld still class a CP as a MC. It's still a positive preg test and a baby. No matter what stage they died xx

I guess it's because when I looked for support on here with my first MC everyone was so dismissive and saying it's just a CP we etc and how everyone gets them etc so really thought NHS wouldn't want to know about it! Feel so silly now for not mentioning it to actual medical people Frazzle

Yep I counted my CP as mc2. Wasn't sure if that was really legit but I declared it because I was in the process of mc3 and was desperate to get help.

All my blood test results came back today, everything completely normal incl the coagulant, Lupus etc that I requested. I guess that's a good thing but it still doesn't give me anything to go on 🤔

I’m trying not to bd until tomorrow morning as DH then goes away, or should we do tonight and tomorrow morning.... it’s so hard to know what to do. I’m not expecting ov until tomorrow or Sat, but my tummy is already feeling a little bloated.

DTD tonight (and tomorrow) so then you can sleep with the sperm in you all night Rose68 unless tomorrow you can lay there a good while in the morning?

Well I guess now you know it is legit Betty . Hmmmm those tests are a good sign I guess but also bloomin annoying, like you said, you've nothing to change now to help

But if ovulation isn’t until Saturday, isn’t it better to wait until tomorrow morning? I will only be able to lie down for a shortish time tomorrow, maybe 15 mins.

Hmmm... Could you do both?

TMI warning below!

I guess I just know how much falls out of me after even 15 minutes of laying down. For months I was still getting up, after only laying down for a short while, to wash myself etc but then a conversation striked up on an old TTC thread I was on about those who sleep with it all still in or not and it made me recall time we conceived DS (1 time we didn't have protected sex) we were drunk coming back from a night out on holiday and I just stayed in bed and slept through and sorted myself out next morning (I remember as I felt guilty about messy sheets for the cleaner). The times I have been able to sleep with sperm in me close to ovulation have been the times I've seen a BFP. That and the fertility lube I am convinced have helped me each time. Now just need to make the baby stick all way through!

Just catching up through... first of all @Frazzlerock I'm so sorry, that company sound like twats. I hope your DP is ok. If he wants a hand looking for a new role, a friend of mine is a recruiter for Product Owners, I'm sure he'd be happy to help him out.
It's really shit, he's far better off out of that company by the sounds of it though 

@tigsyboo no wonder you burst into tears. I'm so sorry 😢

@BettySwoll0cks I'm glad all tests came back ok, but rubbish that you've got nothing to go on  must be really frustrating for you.

@Rose68 I'd say dtd tonight & tomorrow morning. Do you have any EWCM? The month I got BFP was the month I didn't use opks either, just trusted my gut!

@TwittleBee I am a believer in fertility lube too. I've used it once in my life and got pg. T'is magic ✨

Thank you Twittle and Rather.... Yes I have ewcm... we have decided to wait until the morning.... I’m not sure there’s much point dtd only 9 hours apart.... I’m sure whatever I do will be the wrong decision. 🤪

Sorry to hear bad news for your DH @Frazzlerock How does he feel about it?

I have serious metal mouth today. Who was it who said they get metal mouth every luteal phase? Am only 8 DPO I think. Have had minuscule amount of spotting every day since ov though. Why are natural cycles so weird. Life was so much easier on the pill!

Just read that Carrie Underwood has had a baby boy after 3 mcs. Good on her. I always find it encouraging when celebs talk about it.

I'm in a flap about my BBT. It's ridiculously high. It was 36.8 for the past 2 days and today I'm 37.3???? I do have a really sore throat, could that be it? Or is it because I get woken roughly every hour by DS shuffling about in my bed? I'm now worrying that this will affect fertility. Am I going mad?

@Betty sounds like you are slightly ill to me.

Negative opk this morning so I’m glad we waited.

@betty - that does sound high. Are you still on AF or did it finish.? You must be slightly ill.
I am different as I have a low BBT as a whole. When @Frazzle said the other day she was at 36.0 and dead - that's a normal temp for me before OV and after it can be just 36.3......
I have read that thyroid issues can affect fertility and they can affect BBT but I haven't looked into it in detail yet.