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When's the best time to get pregnant? Use our interactive ovulation calculator to work out when you're most fertile and most likely to conceive.

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SparkwoodAnd21 · 17/04/2018 21:19

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Owlpatrol · 27/04/2018 18:44

Aww thanks ladies yes it was tough however ended up having an alright day. Must be Friday and wine calling that cheered me up Smile

LimpLettice · 27/04/2018 20:14

Bubblegum I suffered with tonsillitis several times a year for a long time and it is excruciatingly awful, sympathy, tea and hugs to you. I hope you're getting lots of rest.

Yebbut. Pixie Belle. Seriously!

That's very kind MrsJack. This thread is a great bunch of lads and knowledge is power as they say.

WonkyDonk87 · 27/04/2018 20:47

@MrsJackHackett I welcome advice and support from women like you, thankyou for taking the time to post

Si1ver · 27/04/2018 20:51

@LexieJean it's going ok, first scan tomorrow. Sorry I've not been about much. I've basically been asleep all week. This is the first evening I've been up past 8.30, and that's only because I had a the hour nap this afternoon 😂

Spottyyellowdress · 27/04/2018 20:56

Hey up, can I join you all?! This is cycle 10 for us - already been sent for a scan because of irregular bleeding and going for day 21 bloods next month. Never ever imagined it would take this long.

Bubblegum89 · 27/04/2018 21:25

Thanks for all the love, ladies. I’ve been incredibly unwell today but managed to keep a bit of food down now so feeling a little better. Throat is still agony though.

Sorry for all of you who are feeling a bit low. I’m a bit pissed off that this fertile week is a no-go but honestly, at this point I’m just over it. Do any of you get like that sometimes? Like, wtf is the point?

WonkyDonk87 · 27/04/2018 21:38

Sorry you're still feeling so crap Bubble. The worst is hopefully over  Totally get how you feel, have that thought a lot

Welcome @Spottyyellowdress. These women are a great wealth of information and support, hope they are for you as they are for me

Chooklass · 27/04/2018 21:41

Hope you feel better soon @Bubblegum89 ! I get tonsilitis now and then - it's awful. I'm in bed with sinusitis just now so also feeling shit. Been ploughing on with fertile week dtd though! No kissing - just unromantic quickies! 😂 (as if my body would let me get upduffed when feeling like this!)

Chooklass · 27/04/2018 21:42

Welcome @Spottyyellowdress ! And thanks for caring enough to post and offer advice @MrsJackHackett xx

MrsJackHackett · 28/04/2018 05:51

My primary advice would be from experience and knowing others that have had issues doing the same. When it's a fertile day, try and avoid robotic sex, men are quite sensitive and don't want to merely be a sperm donor. So if you can try and make it as spontaneous as you can, even though you know there's a limited window in which to do it.

The main vitamins I focussed on were H&B although I noticed supermarkets are quite competitive now, you can take an all in one B complex, but the individual tablets have more of your RDA. So B6 & B12 are the ones I would take on top of a B complex vitamin. I also took CQ10 which again is quite cheap at super markets, plus an Omega range tablet.

I found out when speaking to a nurse who spontaneously gave me her fertility history, really hoping she's now quite far gone, you can't get baby aspirin any more. If you've had a loss I would try taking aspirin even if your blood clotting profile is ok.

A HysCosy is a delightful procedure, I think we all feel pain differently, but I would definitely take some pain relief before hand. If the Dr is eagerly showing you your insides and you just want it over, don't be afraid to say, 'Lovely you can just carry on if you want.'

Progesterone support is a reason why some pregnancies fail, I've read that during the 2WW and beyond people continue with the B vitamins and add in flax seed or a tablet that gives you a bumper dose of flax seed.

Get your thyroid checked and ask what your result was. Anything over 4 is classed as a problem, it can affect fertility, so you might benefit from a smallish dose of levothyroxine. Between 25mcg & 50mcg, with blood tests to check its making a difference. In one study I did I also had my TSH antibodies tested and other thyroid components. It was an experiment at the time but there should be a few papers about on it now, from Prof Quinn et al.

Don't be afraid to email people like Prof Quinn, detailing your situation. They might offer you an appointment at the fertility clinic. That's how I got a whole barrage of tests and a hycosy done on the NHS despite having DC.

Prolactin is another hormone type thing, produced by your pituarity gland that can cause fertility issues. So it's always worth periodically testing. If you have a few high results they send you for a MRI to see if you've got a benign tumour causing the problems. Please don't panic if this happens, many live without even knowing they have one, they can use tablets to bring down your prolactin.

I don't know if I would go as far to say I swear that pregnacare conception is good, but on fertility friends, they had the post about the supplement post, the makeup of the specific conception brand mimics a lot of what the woman advocates you take.

From reading you all seem aware that ovulating on CD14 is a generalisation, I ovulated on CD19. I used the cheap tests where you get 100 for day £4. I wouldn't recommend the HCG tests even though they're 10 miu as I found being a pee stick lunatic you can't tell if you have an evap line or a positive. Also ladies, I'm as guilty as anyone, pee sticks weren't invented to be taken apart. Exposure to the air could potentially decrease drying time showing an evap as a positive.

Every time I was TTC it was when I'd given up and wasn't all that fussed that I got pregnant. I think even my gynae said that I needed to relax more, I'm not sure if cortisol plays a part, but if you're stressing over it, I'd guess your levels of cortisol would be higher which have a negative impact. I would strongly advocate having a few months where you don't track and just spontaneously have sex. No worrying during the 2WW, just see if AF comes.

I know a few women with endo who got pregnant on the progesterone pill, as it acted as a form of progesterone support. I would say there's no harm in asking your GP if they'll prescribe baby aspirin and a progesterone suppository.

Ooh green tea tablets were meant to be good too. I've still got a load of supplements from TTC, like zinc to improve sperm quality. I did the full protocol when I could afford it, it was quite expensive.

Any questions about laparoscopies please fire away.

I read an article that seemed to infer endo increases your miscarriage risk, in 20 years of being diagnosed I never heard this. I have other autoimmune issues, so I assumed my body reacted to the 2WW like it reacts to everything, attacking it. I took D3 which your GP can prescribe, in fact you could get a full vitamin and mineral profile done, just to make sure you're not lacking at all.

You obviously all know a CD21 test is useless unless you ovulated on CD14.

I can't think of anything else off the top of my head, I get a feeling that grapefruit might have been indicated as a good way to get nice CM. I saw someone tried the cough syrup. There's fertility friendly lubes that can assist.

Honestly any questions at all, please don't hesitate to ask. I had a lot of miscarriages, so I did a lot of research in that area, I had books & did a lot of scholarly reading.

I really do wish you all the very best.

Do you talk about which pee sticks are the best etc?

Rubberduckies · 28/04/2018 07:04

I'm so fucked off. Bbt dropped today and period due tomorrow, so that's probably it. I really thought we'd get pregnant within a year. But this is the twelfth time it hasn't happened. HOW DO PEOPLE GET PREGNANT ACCIDENTALLY!?

Sorry for the shouting....! I'm Duckies, have been on some of the previous threads but mostly rubbish at keeping up!

Dh and I are 27 and 26, and totally fed up of people telling us not to worry. We've got time! The GP actually told us yesterday that even if it takes 10 years, we'll still have plenty of time to look at other options.

Fuck. Off. We decided when we first met we wanted children. We bought a family house, got married and started trying a year ago. We don't actually want to wait another decade.

We have done all the Gp tests, bloods, ultrasounds, and semen analysis etc as we started the process at Christmas knowing it would probably take forever. She did agree to a fertility referral after saying that to be fair to her.....

Sorry for the long post. I'm just so fed up of it all :(

JaggyJobby · 28/04/2018 07:54

Get well soon @Bubblegum89 & @Chooklass !

Welcome newbies!

On about 9DPO here and symptom spotting like crazy. Normally manage to avoid this but I've been feeling super emotional (aka mainly moody and depressed!) the last few days and feeling sorry for myself. Probably to do with the fact I have been working in my office and have basically missed all the sun and daylight here - I need to start taking a mid-shift walk I think.

Btw it turns out DH didn't get his sperm sample results, just his blood test ones, so now we are pestering his doctor for those. We thought from the blood test that it was just me thats the problem (and let's face it, my hormones are only slightly imbalanced, not that bad) but maybe it could be him. We'll see.

Paranormalbouquet · 28/04/2018 09:13

I’ve started spotting this morning, assuming this is number 4 starting.

LexieJean · 28/04/2018 10:09

Sounds like they’ve wiped you out @si1ver good luck with the scan.

Hope those of you unwell are starting to feel a bit better. Miserable weather for it.

Totally understand the rant @duckies sometimes you just have to shout. TTC is totally crap and UNFAIR!

Welcome newbies! 👋

WonkyDonk87 · 28/04/2018 12:00

@Paranormalbouquet Are you ok? How much? Have you got an EPU locally? Hope you're ok

Paranormalbouquet · 28/04/2018 12:12

Thanks Wonky, started brown then some pink blood wiping. Enough to worry me as it’s how the first 2 miscarriages started and with mmc had brown bleeding for a week before passing sac.

Just spent a fortune on a private scan. There’s a subchorionic haematoma which could be source of bleeding. There’s a gestational sac, yolk sac and tiny foetus measuring a few days behind my dates (puts me at 5+4 instead of 6+1). Flicker of heartbeat. So relatively good news but still not out of the woods, and would be more confident if measured 6 weeks but I know there’s a huge margin of error at this stage.

Going to call EPU on Monday and see if they’ll scan me at 7-8 weeks if I get that far. But since they’ve generally been useless I won’t hold my breath.

WonkyDonk87 · 28/04/2018 12:27

Try not to fret about the dating, like you say it's massively unreliable at this stage (or any stage of my friends are anything to go by). Definitely contact your EPU on Monday. Totally justifiable to have a scan at 7/8 weeks in your case.

Be gentle with yourself today. Have you got someone to be with? Distraction and cake are essential x

LookingAtTheStars89 · 28/04/2018 12:58

@Paranormalbouquet. Try not to worry too much (I know it's easier said) Don't worry about the dates for now, my dd2 was measuring like a week behind! She was smaller the whole way through but she was just a small baby in the end. I will keep my fingers crossed for you and we are all here for you :-) x x

LookingAtTheStars89 · 28/04/2018 12:59

@WonkyDonk87. I agree x

Paranormalbouquet · 28/04/2018 13:32

Thanks everyone, I’m regular but not a machine I suppose and could have ovulated a day or two late and measure a little small. The sonographer did say that there’s at least a 5 day margin of error.

I will just have to wait and see. Haematoma increases risk of loss but I’m already at a high risk of loss so that doesn’t shock me. Seems to have implanted higher than my area of adhesions so that’s a hopeful sign.

I hated the EPU I went to with my MMC. I’m a HCP so I think the consultant I mostly dealt with wanted me to have my rational HCP hat on when you really can’t in that situation. So much so that I’m wondering if I should ask my GP to refer me on elsewhere for this time around. I don’t want to see precious but the thought of going back there really upsets me.

Chooklass · 28/04/2018 14:24

Thinking of you @Paranormalbouquet - must be so stressful Thanks

Yikes - has anyone seen the 'pregnant at drop of hat' thread on conception board at the mo?! Glad the yammers thread is a safe place with lovely people xxx

Bubblegum89 · 28/04/2018 14:40

Hope you’re okay paranormal it does still
Sound positive, fingers crossed for you

chooklass sorry to hear you’re feeling rubbish as well! I did comment on that thread when it first started but not read it since because I can imagine what it’s like in there. All the fertile myrtle’s defending themselves using stupid anecdotes and long term ttc’ers trying to make them see some sense. That about right?

Chooklass · 28/04/2018 14:43

@Bubblegum89 you're wise to avoid it! It's got quite vicious and don't think it's helping anyone. X

Bubblegum89 · 28/04/2018 14:47

I bet chooklass If I read it, I’ll be tempted to reply again. Last time I looked, I saw someone had posted “if you’re struggling with infertility, there’s always adoption” or something like that which pissed me off enough to not go back on there lol

Chooklass · 28/04/2018 14:49

I'm fighting the urge to keep reading it! Being ill means I've too much time for Mumsnet and Netflix today!!