TTC #2 (December BFPs)

[LopeyLopez]

For all those trying to conceive number two, and hoping for a festive bfp! Hop over from the previous November thread, or hop on if you're new. All welcome!

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Age 37
DS 2
Cycle #10
TTC #2 for 10 months; no contraception and NTNP since DS was born in Sept 2015! 😮

Hi, what is SMEP? I’m not getting a positive ovulation rest, thinking I’m ovulating around middle of the cycle as I’m getting sore boobs and cramps but not getting a positive on the sticks. Anyone else having this?

@kit it’s the sperm meets egg plan. If you google then it explains what it is, basically a way of trying to guarantee that you’re dtd at the right time.

I never used to get positive opk’s either but I’ve had positives for a while now. Not really sure what changed but I do know how frustrating it is.

@Kit1411 I never got a positive on cheapie OPK's so got Clearblue smiley face ones and I get a positive with them.

Used SMEP and conceived DS. Im doing a variation of it but starting at CD10 as usually ovulate on cd17 so DTD on CD10, 12, 14, 16, 17 & 18.

Thanks fly: still no af but have had a solitary pink spot this evening....no flow and it's totally gone now, but this is the classic start of af for me. A few cramps on and off still too. Pretty sure af will be here tomorrow, bang on time. ☹️ well I suppose at least I am predictably regular....

Next I need to book an app to see my Dr as this last month I had both Day 1 and Day 21 bloods done....so I can look forward to the results of those / hope that all is ok!

Good luck to those waiting to test...

Fly, the key fertile days are the ones before ov: I read that 94% of pregnancies result from sex either 2 days before, one day before or on the day of ovulation. In fact two days before is meant to be THE best and most fertile day. It allows the sperm to have reached maturity and be able to immediately fertilise the egg, waiting for it as it comes out.

So although the five days before are all good, it's the two before that you want to aim for. A very few pregnancies result from sex earlier, I.e four or five days before....but they are much less likely, and for those of us that, ahem, "struggle", probably a very unlikely prospect.

Fertile cm is also key: regardless of the day they had sex, women who had sex when they had the most fertile cm of their cycle were most likely to get pregnant...

Sorry, I read a lot of stuff online...obsessive, me?!?!?!! 😉

Temp below cover line this morning so sure af will rock up today....☹️

Onto cycle #11...

@lopey sorry it’s not looking positive, be kind to yourself and drink all the wine. Huge hugs.

Hello again, so AF is 3 days late, my boobs are swollen and achey and I feel horribly sick but just taken a test and BFN 😔
Please tell me there is some hope it's a false negative. I was completely convinced.

Lopey sorry to hear it’s not looking positive. Kit if you have a regular cycle of 26-35 days you are almost certainly ovulating, even if OPKs don’t pick it up- they aren’t the most reliable measures.

I agree with Lopey getting in before ovulation appears to be most effective (I read all the science too!).

Definitely post ovulation here, sore breasts, bloated and hairs getting greasier. Next fertile period will be early January so at least we will be back from staying with family and hopefully I won’t have a flu!

@Itwontlastforever- there is hope when period is late. Could you have ovulated late?

Possibly. I had sinusitis so we only managed to DTD twice but I got cramps a few days later. That was only about a week ago.
I think I'll have to buy an expensive digital test tomorrow. That was the only one I could get a BFP with my first

AF just arrived, as if to rub it in. That bitch

Awww bless you I hope you get you BFP soon x

Sorry for af arriving @itwontlast big hugs and all the wine.

Lopey that's exactly what I'm looking for, thanks! Having only just discovered this sperm maturity thing the other day and trying to understand the timings of everything... how long sorry survive, take to mature, how long it takes to travel 'up there', how long the egg is viable for... it blows my mind really!! Haha with DS we dtd 4 days on the trot 2 days before, the day of and the day after, and I thought we got the timings right this month but actually looks like we missed the day of O according to ff. I guess it just wasn't meant to be... hope you have an AF free day!!!

Shite sorry I started writing that comment earlier this morning, just finished now and didn't scroll up!! Stupid me

Thanks ladies, Paranormal my periods since coming off the pill in Sept have been 28 days, 27 days then 26 days. If this one is 28 days then it says I’ll ovulate tomorrow (on the Flo app). I felt a little crampy today but not as much as last month when I thought I was ovulating. But just done an ovulation test albeit on a cheapie (waited for 4 hours without weeing) and it’s not coming up positive. Fingers crossed when we dtd tonight it’ll be the right time but I’m not so sure.

Would be great if my CM decided to show up and help out too, but that would be too easy. Helping things along with fertility lube, but it’s knowing the time (dtd regularly though) but trying not to stress about it is the hard part.

Guess i looked too soon at the ovulation test as it’s pretty dark now, do you reckon I will be ovulating tomorrow as my app predicts? (Pic attached).

@kit I always give the opk’s 5 mins as the IC are slow to develop. From that pic I’d dtd tonight and tomorrow night as well.

Thanks @MynameisJune feeling a little more positive now.

Kit that looks like it’s very nearly positive!

I’ve just got home to another letter about my cervix. Suggesting maybe a pre-pregnancy procedure might decrease the risks of future pregnancies. Sigh. A sibling for my DD is seeming ever further away.

So af got me today, the bitch (like your words, @itwontlast so copying them!!!). Rats. Don't know why as we didn't dtd nearly enough last month, or at the optimum time due to illness, but the lack of spotting was making me feel confident towards the end there.....so disappointing as the higher the hopes, the harder the fall.

I was already in love with that little late August baby, so young for her school year but so loved and tended to to make up for any so called disadvantages..... and she was always a girl, because we dtd only four days before o and if that's the case apparently you're more likely to get a girl...(the 'boy' sperm are faster swimmers but die sooner; the 'girl' sperm are slower but stick around longer if the egg is slow to appear).

Isn't it crazy the stories that come into your head whilst ttc? I miss a baby I never even had.

Really miserable that in nearly a year of seriously active ttc with charting and opks and agnus castus and vit b and literally ALL the shizzle....I have had not even a whiff of a bfp. Not even a faint line or a squinter. No need to ever even use a test; af always appears. Only once ever late and then af just followed after days of spotting and a weirdly long luteal phase...not sure what happened that month.

Well rant over 😬 sorry folks, just so fed up with this state of affairs...into the New Year and soon another birthday and another year older making it even harder to conceive....☹️☹️😞 Feel better for blurting it all out on here...now back off to cuddle the lovely boy I do have xxx

@lopey completely understand about missing a baby you never had. I was like that last month, I’d convinced myself so much that we’d have an August baby that when af arrived I was gutted a bit more so than normal.

I really thought I’d be pregnant again by after the MC in October, but alas it isn’t to be.

Lopey I’m the same. DD is almost 4 and I just see this gap getting bigger and bigger.

I’ve now need to wait to see short cervix team again, decide whether to have a procedure which may or may not help, wait for procedure. So will probably be months before I can try again after this. On upside, procedure being suggested involves a lap so I might be able to convince them to take a look at tubes/uterus generally at same time.