Roll up, roll up!....Clomid cycle buddy needed please, dont want to do this on my own!

[pussycatmomma]

Hi thats it really. If there is anyone who is about to start a new cycle with clomid, can you please be my friend?
This will be my first try on clomid, I have pcos, and started af today after a horrible 48 day cycle.
But af is here, hurray! which means i can start on the magic beans tomorrow.
So if you would like chat and hand holding too, please sign in here.
Im thinking good sense of humour, sympathy, and patience will be a must
xxx

Apologies for the double post - hit the button twice.

PCM - I have PCOS and became pg as a result of ovarian diathermy surgery. It was my only treatment - in my case I was unsuitable to take clomid (cons felt that it would not help me due to my very high LH levels) and was told that I could have injectibles in six months when the funding had come through. So diathermy was tried in the meantime. Am not telling you this to make you feel bad - its just that you mentioned that you had yet to see anyone get pg by that method alone.

I was seen regularly at a NHS hospital (I was seen three times each month every month); a place where some patient files were kept in a supermarket trolley and where the fax machine kept being stolen (I kid you not) - but the staff there were fantastic and ran the whole unit efficiently. Most women there saw the same people each visit; continuity of care is vital.

Stuff your GP (only use him for another referral) and seek proper help from the cons at the hospital. If they cannot or will not help then go to another subfertility unit (one in a major town or city near you instead). This can be done. It is certainly fair to say that some units are far better than others when it comes to dealing with subfertility issues.

Would repeat my counsel not to use temp charts or opks in any circumstances particularly when PCOS is an issue. Apart from it being soul destroying it is also a waste of time.

I would also hold off pg testing; as a veteran of many negative results it will only serve to make you feel worse.

attilla....
For the time being I will be sticking with the consultant I have, until October anyway, when I am next due to see him. If at that time I am not happy with his suggestions I will seek further referral.
I am not using opks, temping or any other ovulation prediction method at all, havent done since I had my ovarian drilling last September. I am glad to hear the drilling worked for you, but sadly this is not the case for myself.
I will be testing tomorrow, as at 6 weeks, I think I need to know either way. A veteran of negative unhappy testing also, this is why I have staved off the testing until now. I am not one to test at the drop of a hat and think long and hard before doing so - I know the effects seeing the bfn have, although not quite as bad as when af arrives after a particularly lengthy absence. I figure if I test tomorrow, rather than wait for af, when it is negative I will be able to draw a line under this month (iyswim?)
Either way I know I have waited long enough to see a bfp if I am indeed pregnant, and if not, well, it just confirms what I probably already know.
I'll let you all know how I get on.
Hope I havent killed our little thread with all my bloody rambleings!!!
xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Hi all- good luck for tomorrow PCM. How are you feeling- be honest do you think you might have any symptoms??? I know you don't want to jinx anything, but am wondering...

I am on CD27 today. AF came on CD 27 last time (at night) and I think CD28 the cycle before. Before that it was around CD37. I can't say I am feeling hopeful as I have absolutely no symptoms and last time I was pg I did by this point (felt a tiny bit nauseous and slightly sore boobs and constipated). So am just waiting for AF.

Anyway, fingers, toes and all crossed for you PCM.

hiya lulu
well symptoms........hmmmm, thats a whole can of worms isn't it! but here goes....
#1- On cd20 had slight bleeding, very slight and didnt last for long. Just when I wiped really, but then nothing.
#2- Have really noticed that for the past 2 or 3 weeks have been going to wee much much more than usual. At first it was so intense I thought I may have had a water infection or something else, but no pain, just needing to wee much more often.
#3- Sore boobies and nipples seem to be "different" , sort of bigger and whole boobs seem "puffy".
Thats it really. Definately not quantitive, certainly not evidential, and probably all to do with impending af!!!!!
Am desperate to test just to get it out of the way. Cant seem to be able to think of anything else at the moment and am feeling quite miserable. Oh, that would be
#4- then, raging pmt, tears at the slightest thing. But again, could just be that am well due for af.
what do you think???

OK- message just disappeared on me! I think you should just wait and see what happens tomorrow and try not to torment yourself. Like I should talk. I keep pressing on my boobs to see if they hurt and then realise even if they did it was just because I was harrassing myself! I definitely remember the need to pee from last time, but don't have that now. Boobs- mine don't hurt, but the one bump on the left that now always seems to hurt as I approach AF. No sore nips. LAst time they were definitely achey and felt heavier- I remember being precious about them and noticing it when I went to the gym. I can understand the desire to test, but just wait a bit longer...

Hi PCM

I would like to wish you the best of luck for tomorrow re testing. As a veteran also of both PCOS (was diagnosed back in 1997, I was not aware of this condition till diagnosis) and negative test results I would have to counsel you to not test but I can fully understand why you want to do so.

Can you remind me why you have to wait until October to see the consultant?. Is it purely down to seeing how you get on with clomid i.e do the six cycles (without monitoring - argh!!) and then go back to see him?. I personally think this is way too long a wait (you likely think so too); treatment should be far more proactive for you. I was in a NHS unit; although it was short on cash it was efficient and I was seen regularly. From that standpoint I think its appalling you have to wait so long.

I think your point made in your post re possible insulin resistance and Metformin is a good one and should be further investigated. If you are IR (and I would also say that not all PCOSers are) metformin and clomid can work well together; certainly better than just clomid on its own.

Have you looked at Verity's website - its very informative. Its www.verity-pcos.org.uk. I would recommend any PCOSer look at it.

Many hugs to you from me, Attila the Meerkat

(((((((((PCM))))))))))))).

Everything crossed, PCM, but know what you mena about drawing a line.

Still waiting for AF. Have forgotten which day i am even on. Have had sore boobs for ever. Grrr.

I'm waiting until I get back from holiday (next Wed, yippee.) to sort out consultant thing. Hoping for calmer more positive appearance rather than mad weepy frantic bitch....

Well, hope your luck is better than mine, PCM. AF arrived today. Gutted. Keep us posted.

pussycat, have been lurking here and just thought I'd pop in and see if you've tested yet?

good luck xxx

hi everyone.......I tested this morning......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
BFP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have been in shock most of day I think!!! Cant quite believe it.
Wee'd on the clearblue at 7.35 this morning, could hardly bear to look at it, so left it in the bathroom. Got back in bed with dh and timed the test with the clock on breakfast tv. My heart was pounding, dh could feel it through my jarmas!!! Darkest, strongest blue line you have ever seen
Have been dying to tell you all but obviously have been at work and only just got home, logged on straight away.
(((pusscat wanders holds head in v.nervous cant-quite-believe-it haze!)))
Excited, thrilled, scared silly........
what do i do now?!
Dont want to leave our little thread...
Just want to say Thank you, Thank you, Thank you to each and every one of you who has been such a massive support to me these last few months, and if anyone else is reading, to all my other mn friends, thank you for all the care and support in the last few years. Bloody hell, I'll need you all more than ever now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ps took the test to work with me in my bag, kept sneaking a peek as i couldnt get it to sink into my head

congratulations!!!!! So happy for you. Please do stay. I have horrible fear that I will be left on my tod writing to myself in a few weeks. Celebrate!

just feel so shocked, as much as I wanted to see bfp this morning, really and truly, I didnt think it would be.
Dont lose hope lulu, will still be here for you. I felt that way with my old ttc threads, especially the one started way back in January 06. There was only a couple of us who didnt graduate and it was heart-wrenching.
I will keep my eye out for you and will keep everything crossed, You will all be in my thoughts xxxx

Oh massive congratulations!!!!!!!

Although I mostly lurk on this thread I have been logging on all day to hear your news.

Wishing you a trouble free pregnancy.

PCM

What fab news!!!

thank you!!
I will just be keeping my fingers crossed now for the next few weeks, I know it can all be very precarious early on.
Thank you for all your support Attilla, you are a star xx
mrs mills, thanks for the congrats, xxxxx

oh pussycat (((hugs))) huuuuge congratulations! I had a feeling that you were this month. can't explain why but I just did. so what do you do now...

well...

firstly, you go out and buy yourself the biggest bar of chocolate you can find to celebrate with, wine's out now, you see .

secondly, you tell dh that there is an unwritten law that for the first 9 months of pregnancy, the expectant mother is not allowed to:
cook, clean, do washing, ironing, wash up, hoover.

she is, however, allowed to:

sit with feet up, eat as much as she wants, sleep as late as she wants, and be in sole charge of the remote control. .

well done you. far be it for me to say it but... I told you so, .

PCM- another graduate to giveus all hope. Seriously, it's the best news ever, and no less than you deserve. You have been so supportive of everyone. Hell- you started this thread!. Truly delighted for you and Mr PCM.

Lulu- you will not be on your own. Sorry AF arrived, but with you every step of the way.

Big kisses to everyone

PCM

No worries, glad to be of some service to a fellow PCOSer.

Wishing you a very happy and healthy pg!.

Attila xx

Still so pleased at PCM news... a warning- I may be bringing down the mood...

But must admit feeling very low myself. I have had 3 cylces of clomid with no luck. Have to say I thought it would have worked by now. I'm a bit worried as it seems like the info reads that most who are successful will be so in their first 3 cycles. What has everyone else heard? I have decided to lay off the clomid this month and I think will try to get an appointment with the consultant as soon as I can.

Just lost my entire post. B@gger.

Sweetie, please try not to worry. I was told that if Clkomid didn't work in 6 cycles, it was unlikely to, but could try it again after further investigation (ie: have lap dye test/drilling, then try again.) I know what you mean about being down. I'm there a lot at the moment. It hasn't happened overnight for anyone on this thread. With you every step of the way, wherever it may take us.

big smooches, Flossie

Don't you hate it when that happens... I hate losing posts! Thanks for your thoughts. I guess I just really had my hopes up as it took so long to get to this point. I just can't get it out of my head that I got pregnant last year so quickly and easily- never thought I would still be trying at this point. Desperately trying to stay positive, but it is so tough. Anyway, I promise to bounce back and provide more positive vibes for our little thread! I'm here for you too. At least the sun is shining!

Hi all- to keep our little thread going shall we do a roll call? I added some of you and sorry if I got details wrong! Do we have any new members- I hope so!

Lulu- CD1 3 cycles clomid, now month off

PCM- 2 cycles clomid and BFP!
Awen- 1 cycle clomid and BFP! but didn't ov
on clomid...
Rachee 7 cycles clomid and BFP!

Lulu-hello- Rachee took 7 cycles (that's a good four more to go for you...)! Must be so frustrating to have seemingly succeeded so quickly last year, yet still be trying. In truth I test every month, despite being certain I'm not pregnant. Lke I keep saying, you are not alone. And for goodness sake be as miserable as you like for as long as you need to be- you've listened to my moaning often enough.

Flosspot CD40 something, 2nd cycle of CLomid. Losing the will to live!
Lulu- CD1 3 cycles clomid, now month off

PCM- 2 cycles clomid and BFP!
Awen- 1 cycle clomid and BFP! but didn't ov
on clomid...
Rachee 7 cycles clomid and BFP!

Hello

Congratulations PCM - have posted for you on other thread too See the dodge woman was wrong! DP thrilled for you too x

Hi lulu, please dont give up on clomid yet. Have they increased your dose? Have your 21 day bloods been ok? For regular people without PCOS they can take ages. I was told I would be treated up to 12 treatments, I guess if there was strong enough evidence to say after 3 it isnt going to work then why would htey bother with 12 iyswim. Will keep popping in to see how its going if ok.

Hi Floss - hugs to you and hope you are lucky soon hun xx

Sendong lots of love xx

Pussycat - fab news have just posted on other thread but just in case....congrats!!!

Lulu sorry to hear about af...hope your not too down about it...{{{hugs}}}

This is my third cycle and I seem to be having text book symptons....last cycle was 28 days...and this cycle had positive opk yesterday day 13, with lots of ew and ov pains....have been away on holiday so fairly relaxing too... have appointment with consultant tomorrow so will see what he has to say not alot really as I am mid cycle and not alot he can tell me surely?! bit daft really going....

floss when are you going to test...hwo long are your cycles normally..? fingers x'd

Flosspot CD40 something, 2nd cycle of CLomid. Losing the will to live!
Lulu- CD1 3 cycles clomid, now month off
Minxi - cd14 3rd cycle of clomid

PCM- 2 cycles clomid and BFP!
Awen- 1 cycle clomid and BFP! but didn't ov
on clomid...
Rachee 7 cycles clomid and BFP!