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[MotherOfBeagles]

Hi ladies!

Sorry I didn't want to lose you all as at the in law weekend so thought I'd start a new one!

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Been thinking about you all evening Footy since I read your message. Please don't worry about opening up here/clogging up the thread! You have been such a huge part of this thread throughout 2016, we don't want to lose you!! Doesn't have to be ttc chat, we are your friends here now, and will want to know how you are getting on. I hope he is sulking somewhere and regretting everything he has said and done. If he's any like mine, it will be pride & stubbornness stopping him from reaching out to talk it all over. I hope he comes to his bloody senses, but as Jam said, don't feel you have to stand for it if you feel you've had enough.
Hope you manage to get a good nights sleep sweet x

Here here tee!!! I cannot fathom what you must be feeling and I am trying really really hard not to judge him too much!!! You have my best wishes! If you fancy a visit Leeds way, let me know!

Hi young sorry you've had such a year of it but these really are some stunning ladies to talk to and get comfort and advice from!

Sorry af got you kiki but good to focus on the fact that you did ovulate and move forward positively into the new year!

jam & durez I find temping really helpful but there are people it drives nuts. I suppose you have to decide what would be worse, tracking something each day and dealing with those stresses or the ones you have now about where things are up to?

mimi I hope the witch is still at bay!

tee step away from google! I've had that same worry and there are loads of anecdotal threads that dtd in tww is dangerous but all hard evidence and medical fact says that's crap. Ignore the threads, listen to the docs.

Well im cd7 and been having perfect low flat temps within 0.01 of each other and then today I jumped from 36.06-36.46. Wtf? It's cd7 surely I can't be ovulating?

Also footy whoever mentioned care package before is a genius. All we need is your address

jam and physics are wise women footy don't you be disappearing on us now. You've been here for us and we're here for you.

Thanks ladies really appreciate it. Only told one person (and you all) so really am feeling alone right now. Can't sleep, eat or even think straight. Dreading what tomorrow will bring.. The boys just want to get excited about Christmas and it's so painful swallowing these tears..

foot all thoughts are with you hun . hope you managed to get some rest .like the others said, we are like a family and we are here for you. Hard as might be carry on with the Christmas preparations for the boys, that's what we moms do .

Hello young and welcome. Sorry you have been through a lot in your journey. Wishing you a sticky bean and a less lonely and short journey to your bfp.

Sorry kiki .here is to your bfp in the new year. Enjoy your Christmas for now.

Woo beagles you want to conceive your baby over Christmas. Hope you have started on the sexathon

Tee, Jam,Nim, Kate, Durez waves. Hope you are just about done with the Christmas shopping. I am already digging into the cakes lol while waiting for my bfp tomorrow.

footy that's just really shit. I feel for you. I hope whatever happens you manage to get some sense of peace at least for a little while you kids open their pressies.

I miscarried nurse thinks around 6/7 weeks last month. Stopped bleeding last Monday and onto ttc cycle 2, have been having sex most days or every second since then. I think I'm ovulating at the moment as EWCM plus sore breasts etc. Me and DH on good form and looking forward to a week or so chilling and meeting up with folk. Although I'm ill with dragging viral infection and hacking cough that gets better then worse etc. I left the office at 9 last night (til 04 yay) and am feeling ming today but need to clean flat, get hair cut and coloured and collect my expat dad from airport, assuming storm Babs doesn't stop him flying in. Then tomo I'll hopefully be feeling good!

Good luck to all - fingers crossed for tomo mimi - and merry Xmas

Footy, I'm really sorry it happened to you and so sudden and unexpected! I was so sad and upset on your behalf yesterday I couldn't even post a message then! I'm not a Christmas person (Russians don't celebrate it) but understand how you guys look forward to it, to spend with a family etc etc and I can not just believe he took it all away from you guys within seconds and walked out like that!!! I do hope he realizes what's he's done and comes back to sort/talk it all out!!! Will be thinking of you! We're all here for you!!! Just don't know what else to say to make it all better for you!!! Take care of yourself!! Big hugs 💐💐💐

Thinking of you footy I hope you managed to get some sleep last night. Have you heard anything from him? Big Christmassy hugs for you

I got my positive OPK Wednesday after we DTD, it stayed positive yesterday and has gone faint again today. So I reckon I've ovulated. Just hope there were some friendly swimmers to meet and greet.

Got all my presents wrapped and under the tree now, and just put the bread sauce on. I always do this when we have Christmas Day with my folks. I hope you are all peaceful and relaxed with families

footy it really is awful I hope he comes to his senses. How are your boys doing today?

My cervix is way way high today and my temps have plummetted again today so god knows. Put a picture in to see if anyone has any ideas. Not managed to dtd for a week so I bloody hope it's not a really early ovulation. But day off today as finished work yesterday for the holidays.

Mmm mimi could murder a cake right now.

earth that sounds like way too much effort for such a gloomy day. Have you managed to put your feet up? Hope your dads flight has gone well.

Sounds like you had great timing jam fingers crossed for you now! Sounds like you're having a lovely idyllic day.

Hi everyone,

Beagles, I usually have few spikes like that at the beginning. Think it's something to do with estrogen rise.
But I have ovulated as early as day 9/10 before! So maybe try and dtd tonight if u can just to get some swimmers.

Jam great news you think you caught the egg. Good timing. I always felt a relief once is ovulated.. Almost like the anxiety quickly disappears knowing you have a chance.

Russ hope you enjoy Christmas the Russian way! Thankyou for your thoughts, really appreciate it.

Earth glad your body is getting back to normal after your MC. Sounds like u had a busy day planned. Enjoy Christmas X

Hi young, welcome. Great bunch of girls here with good advice and support.

Kiki sorry AF got you at least you can have a good drink over the next few days.

Tee how are you feeling? How many dpo are u? Thanks for your kind words.

Mimi/Kate again thanks for your support and messages xx

So.. Yes he's stubborn and probably trying to prove a point. His plans are he's spending Christmas and new year with his folks to get some head space. Yes I'm left in limbo til then clutching at hope that he's not going to walk away from us over a disagreement. He saw black I saw white over a situation with the boys. Ridiculous.
We all have different opinions. I really can't believe all this has happened but facing reality now which is hurtful. Trying to stay strong for boys and taking every day as it comes. You girls have been absolutely fantastic thankyou so much xx

I can't believe he can take such drastic action over a disagreement. Fair enough go and cool off, spent one night away if you need to - but for goodness sakes come back and make things right. Especially when it's Christmas and especially when you've got children! He sounds rather selfish footy. How are your boys? I hope you can enjoy Christmas Day with them. Your foolish H is going to miss out, not seeing his lovely wife and children at Christmas. I hope he has a major heartfelt apology brewing for you. So cross and hurt on your behalf. X x x

footy and mother I ended up ditching shopping, DH has done cleaning and I am in hairdressers after lazy afternoon DTD and watching Netflix (not simultaneously!). Much more sensible.

Footy you sound v cool and strong doffs cap

footy thats awful to act like that and miss christmas with his kids. As horrible as it is, when hes away i think you need to decide what it is you want too - a relationship is two people not just him! Not saying leave him but make sure that you stand up for yourself. also thanks for the advice makes me feel a bit calmer.

earth that sounds like a much better idea!

Unfortunately I think I am out

I had some spotting this afternoon, and feel as though AF is not too far away. I am CD17 and usually have around 24 days cycle, but last month had 21 days.

Oh well, at least I can relax and stop thinking am I or aren't I, spend Christmas just enjoying my family.

Will keep popping in and checking on you all.

Thank you all for being so welcoming

Still no sign of AF and I'm 7 days late tomorrow, i caved and did another test this afternoon and still got a BFN. I just don't understand what's going on, I'm so nauseous aswell, random spurts of sickness etc. Has anyone been this late before?

MotherOfBeagles I've ovulated really early before so I second you trying to dtd ASAP!! Just in case!!

Which tests are you using young?

I hope the witch doesn't turn up durez you aren't out until she does.

Well I think it's pretty safe to count me out this month. Dh basically just said it's not going to happen, dtd, because he's got a cold. Another month down the drain. After a messed up month when I was a mess from the mc, two months with a severe/almost hospitalised chest infection and a month with a sever sinus infection and I still pushed through and really tried each month. But he's got a cold. I'm really pissed off and hurt tbh. Sometimes feel like I'm in this alone, when really I know he cares too but just doesn't seem to have any urgency and is far too nonchalant when it doesn't happen. I dunno. Overthinking when overtired is not a good thing.

Hey everyone,

Footy - thinking of you, hope it works out the way you want xx

Jam - all sounding good everything crossed for you!

Earth/russ - hello!!

Beagles - thinking of you as if the journey isn't hard enough having a difficult dh doesnt help. My dh is very relaxed about it all too so sometimes i feel like a crazed woman while he just takes it in his stride.

Young - i guess you're still in with a chance until one or the other happens.. what did the nurse say?

Feeling sad today can't get my missing bump out of my head. I know eveything happens for a reason and we will fall again but just seems so cruel after 18 months and seeing a heartbeat to have it taken away before i got used to it. Resent that i cant get there without taking a miriad of tablets too. Sorry ladies proper woe us me post.

Hope all are well and gearing up for the festivities xxx

Young my cycles have been long too. Forgive me as I can't remember your background - lots going on my end. I don't know if u were ever on c/pill but for me it's taken a year to get cycles back together and even then I'm still not there. Been loads of times that I thought I was pregnant because period was late. Cycles over 34 /40 days. Although I was getting positive opks sometimes I wasn't ovulating and my body was just gearing up for it every week. Common signs for me was ovulation pains, EWCM every other week, constant tingly boobs. Lots of spikes in temperatures but with a crash after. Last cycle I knew I'd ovulated as that all stopped. Just a possibility? Only way to confirm ovulation is temping and charting. Gives u an idea where u are in your cycle. Either that or your hcg is low still. Fingers crossed it will be good news today.

Kiki it must be awful for you and emotionally I do think we never recover from these things but they do just get easier to manage. Christmas itself pulls on those heartstrings as its a time of celebrating good things and family times so it's bound to surface more now. As with new year, a reflection of the past year and hopes for the future it will be tough for you and for everyone that has been on this long journey. Hugs to you and hugs to everyone else who is sad right now.

Oh Beagles I feel your frustration! I definitely think sometimes that if men could be us for a few weeks they would see and think differently. They don't have these overwhelming hormones that forms our moods or drive they just go with the flow and can be so damn relaxed about things we see as more important. It is a constant battle! Try not to fret or lose hope that U have missed your chance as for all you know you will ovulate in a few days so u don't want to blow your chance if that's the case. How many times we've had to bite our tongue just to receive the "goods" ? We are like crazy women inside. Hopefully you have a few days yet and then you can let rip

Durez sorry if I think u are out this month
Hopefully the spotting is a good sign.
Hope you have a lovely Christmas celebrating.

Earth yes feel like all me and the boys have done is watch Christmas movies. The boys were pleased but I'm finding that these films are sending out messages that life is just one big happy fairytale and as special as this magical world of Christmas is- it's not real. Think that's why I'm finding it more difficult now then if it happened in summer! Lots of pressure and disappointment at the same time as I wanted it to be perfect for the boys. When I crumble, they crumble this is the difficult thing. Enjoy your Christmas and look forward to hear your good news in the new year!

Jam, thanks for your words - yes I know he's selfish. I married him knowing that so I work around it usually. I swing from anger to devastation throughout the long hours of the day. I want to punch him, I want to hug him- I've had enough of him to I want him. I can barely sleep still and have lost weight already so I don't think that is helping my state of mind. I've been through lots in my past and always want to fix people's problems but now I just don't know where to begin.
Boys are ok considering. They have stopped asking questions and hug me if I cry (which I'm trying to not let them see, but the tears just roll out sometimes when I don't expect. They had McDonald's yesterday, lots of snacks and endless no limit time on their tablets so they are ok. Finding this the biggest challenge is getting back into my tight routine with them as all infant to do is hide under a duvet for a week.

Anyway hope you are in a good merry spirit now your good work is done. Enjoy Christmas and your bread sauce!

Mimi any news? Are you late yet?
Hope it's good news for you. Thanks again for your support.

Apologies if my posts are rambled I just can't sleep much so feel exhausted!
He wants to see me today and the boys. He wants to give me my presents! Not sure how I feel about that ?but the boys want to see him. Part of me doesn't want him to see me like this - honestly look a mess. Swollen eyes dark circles, pale. House a mess. But other part thinks let him see the damage he's caused. I honestly believe he will be back, and this is some gruelling punishment to cross him and question his opinion. He will have to explain to his family that he left me and boys and I do trust they will tell him he's a fool and will be cross with him. He hasn't told them yet. Although yes I want him back I do think we'll never recover from this. The pieces might stick back together but the cracks will still be there. I feel I can't trust him anymore but desperately love him and want things to be right.

Morning all

Sending more hugs your way foot.you can indulge in all the cake and chocolate .hope things work out the way you want hun.

I had a horrible night. Severe cramps, I woke up 3 times to take pain killers and no bleeding yet to top it off l dreamt I was about to poas and l started losing some mucus plug (like during labor ) then I got my clear bfp . madness. It must have been the pills lol.

Sending you hugs too kiki .sorry you are feeling down. It will never be forgotten but it will get better.

Sending you hugs beagles .men are just selfish. Agree with foot,if only they could be turned into women for a few days, their behavior would definitely change. Enjoy the holidays non the less.

young ,sorry you are in limbo.l have had a few cycles too when I was late and got a bfn . only time will tell so fx.

durez any news today? Fx it's ib.either way, enjoy your Christmas.

earth glad you enjoyed your relaxed afternoon.

jam good luck in the tww. It's a good thing you managed to get some conga just before. Jump oh on his return today

tee any symptoms dear? When are you due your af?have a wedding to attend today and can't seem to shake the feeling af is imminent. Come already old hag.