Thread 20 TTC #1 - We. Want. Babies.

[AlexiaB]

Hugh enjoys ISW and his love affair with Doreen. He watches out for skittle tits and weepyitis. Mrs Arseholey Fucknut (AF) shows up when you least want her but brings wine and soft cheese as a consolation prize.

We don't have rules as such but expect to be talked down from the ledge with kind and well meaning but firm words if you get too hysterical. But most importantly don't convince yourself you're pregnant in the tww. That is paramount! It messes with your head and makes you crazy crazier.

We don't get a lot of baby dust in these here parts. We want a fanny full of determined Doreen, not unicorn farts and gnome tears with extra sparkle. We've been going a while now so the novelty has somewhat worn off and we're slightly battle scarred and bruised in the cervix area.

Post your stats and add your dates. A more lovely, supportive group of ladies you couldn't wish to meet. We like it when the grads stick around too. No question is too daft. We have opk experts, temp experts, cervical mucus management teams and symptom spotters extraudinaire!

Alexia oh man, I'm sorry that you have had to go through this. If it helps I always tend to have quite a delay (2-3 days normally) between positive OPKs and temp rise and my rise is slow and gradual. Putting aside whether that's a bad sign or not(!) it does show that it's possible! I don't want to get your hopes up but equally don't discount it yet. Hope you can sleep a bit better tonight, I'm sure having a disturbed night will affect your temps too. Your OPKs look good to me!

Mrs sorry that AF arrived I have read that if it arrives in the evening then you should count the next day as CD1 although I don't think I've been consistent with recording mine.

I get tingly boobs around ovulation. Not sure about nipples hep are you doing any OPK s? Dixie there's one girl who asks me at work from time to time. I'm like "all in good time" through gritted teeth

Penguin yes I think I'd class that as positive. It's tricky with the outside edge being darker than the rest. Will you try another tomorrow?

Alexia none of yours look as dark as the test line it could be you missed the surge, or that it didn't peak. Where are you at with clomid? How does that affect OPK s - does it create the surge or just make you ovulate?

Thanks for positive wishes for test results, will report back. Also made our first ever offer on a property today perhaps this is why I forgot about my results! Will see what they think to that too tomorrow. Big day!

Sorry mrsg and better luck next cycle

Thanks Music at least she's here on time, 14dpo today and FF predicted her to arrive tomorrow. So looks like a 31 day cycle for me.

Good luck for results Jem and scan Kwick

Sorry about the confusing OPKs Alexia and Penguin

Music that's reassuring, thank you so much. I'll just have to see what happens tomorrow.

Jem mine were darker than that pic, they always dry lighter. I'm pretty sure something was happening because of the progression over the last 4 days. I've attached a 'wet' pic. Mine are the same as Inspector's and only very dark on one side. The whole batch has been like this (90!) I thought Clomid would definitely make me O, only time will tell I guess.

Sorry Mrs I'd mark it as spotting too.

Jem somehow missed the end of your post. How exciting!!! Let us know how it goes.

MrsG I would only mark it as spotting if you aren't leaving anything behind in a panty liner personally. I was so light on Saturday but I still classed it as a light AF day. Keep smiling, fresh new start!! X

I've not O'd yet. I knew it was too good to be true. I also just woke myself up early by laughing out loud in my dream

Hi inspector we've had a fun cycle shall we put it that way. I think im 3dpo today - I didn't OPK every day numerous times like last cycle but the day I actually remembered to I had a fairly dark like & the day after was my surge. Well done me for just doing it then! DH has been here a lot this month so we've DTD but I don't think we did it as much during fertile window, typical haha.
I'm just waiting now - see if AF comes on 5 days late with a vengeance like last month

So sorry Alexia I guess it's possible that your body will try again. Or do you think you would need more Clomid for that? Are you on the doctors radar for this - I can't remember? At least you were having a good dream when you woke up!

kwik so did it come down to unexplained issues with doctors? I think there is much to be said for the natural way. I think a lot of us probably only need time to make it happen but it's something that none of us were educated about previously so it's not what we expect to happen!

Jem good luck with results today. I tried to do some reading around conceive plus or preseed but can't see much difference. Think I'll go with preseed. I swear a lot of those Amazon reviews must be fake. How can so many people have conceived on their first time using it after no success for months before? It can't be a miracle product! Good that you have a gynaecologist friend - I think we all need one of those! I won't be able to go to GP until I'm at 11 months ttc as had implant out a month before so can't pretend it has been any longer!

I am tempted by doing initial testing at a private clinic a bit earlier but I don't know how that clashes with NHS stuff. Do they block you from having NHS treatment if you have been somewhere like Create for early tests? Anyone got any experiences?

Alexia I love waking up laughing has your temp not come up then? I hope there's still time, and if not then the femara(?) will bring it on.

Dixie cannot count how many times I've seen bfps from women who say they only DTD once or twice in fertile week. You've got as much chance as the rest of us I reckon

Music we got DH sperm tested privately first - not a problem at all with GP. She ordered another on the NHS. Feel a bit sick about those results. Deep down I fear the low morphology reading is preventing it happening, and we will need IVF

Thanks everyone. I'm not too disappointed really, more hopeful that a good "natural" AF will clear everything out and we'll have a better chance TTC this month. Although I just worked out that if I'm not pregnant by the time we go to NY in January then AF will be due slap bang in the middle of our trip, urgh.

I need a new computer at work and finally asked my boss about getting a laptop so I can work from home in future when I have a family and he was surprisingly on board. He suggested we have some meetings about how we would distribute my work amongst my team so we are prepared (I'm the company finance manager) so I feel happier knowing I won't have to sort it all out myself when the time comes!

Sorry mrs for you.

music appointment not booked yet, going to try and sort that today if poss and get something in so that hopefully they'll agree to take day 21 blood this cycle.

Looking forward to hearing about your results jem.

jem no opk until AF appears...... still waiting. I have been longer on this thread without AF than with...

Music - I also don't believe that private tests have any impact on NHS eligibility - in fact it can speed you through the process to get referred to the NHS fertility specialist as you don't get slowed by the waiting list for each test. The only time it comes into play is in some areas a private IVF cycle can stop you getting a free NHS IVF cycle. Test away!

PS sorry you're still waiting hep. You must be so frustrated. Have faith it'll all work itself out in the end and it's just your body getting healthy.

Hep still waiting for AF? bloody bodies eh.

MrsG that would suck, I hate being on holiday with AF as it really messes with me!! fx it doesn't come! The chat with your boss sounds amazing - I can't imagine that going down well where I am.

Dixie the fun cycles are the best ones Keep it up! (wink wink)

upside to AF in NYC would be the cocktails you can then get stuck into mrsg although yes lets hope you will be on virgin cocktails

Test results - she said they are all normal. I said "phew". Then she said "The doctor would like to speak to you about the prolactin though".

WTF does that mean? My GP is not back in clinic until Monday so I have to wait.

Why say they are normal and then say you need to speak to the GP?

Feeling very frustrated and upset right now. Sodding cried at my desk when I got back upstairs too

Jem was it just a receptionist that called you? The doc might want to speak to you for any number of reasons. If she said "normal" then I really wouldn't worry too much, they'd have waited for the doc before giving you the results if it was that serious

Hello all,

Jem I had something similar, the receptionist said my 21 day bloods were "all fine" but as it turned out they were cd1 bloods as AF came that day.

If AF had come today I would have had bloods taken on the correct day but no AF or spotting so far, so that's another month to try and get the day right. DH is sending in his sample next week, his gp wants to see him about his low testosterone.

I'm just plodding along, slightly not caring now. I've signed up to run The Brighton Marathon for charity so my focus is more on that and Xmas and... Life, rather than this thing that ain't going to happen.

ej LSFX!!!

Day 12 scan showed only a 1mm growth... next scan friday cd15. Have been instructed to OPK - shall I do FMU, SMU and then in pm?

hep don't trust the boobs!!

mrs my FC count cd1 if AF comes before noon full flow.

Oooh jem hope your offer is accepted!! Are you staying in tge same area?

music I am 42 therein lies the challengette
How would NHS know you had gone private - the FC typically only contacts your GP if you get a BFP (well that is my experience)

Great work chat mrs well done!

hep how many weeks has it been? i had to wait 7 for my AF to show up after MC.

jem this is so frustrating!!! WTF is prolactin?

Fricking racing to get home as need to be on work call in 10 mins... but do not want to be on train...

Jem i remeber that fishy was told she had high prolactin as well . Is one of the hormones that if its consistently high can itimpact ovulation but if the progesterone is fine ot means tou do ovulate

And now even instagram is taking the piss

How frustrating Jem but I doubt it's anything serious with Prolactin - and fab news the rest of the results were all good. Very annoying that you were left a cryptic message like that with no clarification though, and then have a week to wait. The doctor could have been a bit more sensitive to your needs there.
Amazing news about the house, that's really exciting! Best of luck with it.

Kwik I only OPK once a day until the line starts to get dark, usually in the evening around 7.30. Once it looks like a positive is on its way I'll do FMU, lunchtime/early afternoon and evening. All depending on where I am and what I'm doing of course.
What do you need to see on Friday for the cycle to stand a good chance of success?

Alice that's fab you're doing Brighton! Good luck with the training over winter - I have a lot of respect for anyone who manages that.
I have a 10k to do in a couple of weeks that I entered back in April and was pretty sure I would be pregnant by the time it came around. That's shown me, eh? Oh well, at least this sub-fertility is keeping me relatively fit.

Sorry you are still waiting for AF Hep

New York sounds amazing MrsG! If you're not preggers by then I would highly recommend trying Mooncups or other similar products to make AF a MUCH easier experience. I thought they were hippy nonsense for years until I gave them a go a few months back and I haven't looked back. They made my holiday to Prague so much less faffy and I could forget all about AF for the entire day. I'm a total convert!

Sounds like you have done well this cycle Dixie and should be in with a good chance. Good luck!