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Haha footy the outfits are mainly for me. But the fact it gets him going when I'm ovulating is the excuse I use to spend so much money lol. My dh does want to try but I think he gets in his own head too much and is like "oh ok dtd is not just because I'm a man whore anymore. I'm making a human. Going against all programmed notions about what not to do during sex"

I think I'm just going to stick to cheapie opks this month since the CB digi ones are so expensive and didn't clock anything last month! I had a random bit of spotting last night just enough when I wiped but weird. Don't normally get that.

footy enjoy the sheets! I swear they are so much nicer alone. Keeping my fingers crossed your egg dawdles for a few days!

jam I've heard of pressed but never really looked at it. Is it just a fancy lube? Sounds like you've done as much as you can so sending positive vibes your way!

Don't feel a fraud kate just because not actively tracking doesn't mean you aren't trying. How many stories are out there of people who got it when they weren't? Also I feel your pain I work in education! Sounds like you've had a right time of it recently.

Hey everybody!
Fuck week all round for the square-oners it seems! My DH is probably missing those days, seems he's got randier since I've fallen!! Well I'm well and truly relishing holding all the cards at last! He's had a year of me crawling round him, outfits, videos, whatever it took to get him going, I've well and truly had enough of making the first move, and worrying about whether he'll 'deliver'!
Coming up to 8 weeks now. Private scan on hold again, hoping to hang in there until 12 weeks.
Hope you all catch the egg, I think Christmas is a good omen. I fell with DS over the Christmas period.
Nim curious about how you're getting on? x

Foot hope o has waited for your DH, any signs?

I still haven't had a +OPK can't believe I got so flustered about it before

Beagles what cd are you? Preseed is special sperm friendly lube. It helps them swim up. Regular lube kills them. It's pricey but we like it.

Ah tee eight weeks already that's great not long until your scan now am excited for you!

Cd8

Hey Jam well to add to my confusion my temp is still a bit higher? Unless I ovulated at cd5 which I doubt, then it's the clomid made the temps higher? Still no peak opk so think I have a chance to catch egg as DH back tonight.

Weird thing is I usually get cramping (which I did on cd5) for a few days. Cramps have stopped. This whole thing is one massive complicated roundabout.

Beagles I use preseed too and it's fantastic stuff! Def would recommend it. Yes cheaper opks are good, that's all I use.

Tee that is my goal too, to hold all the cards and decide when DH can have some! Lol pay back time for sure! Glad cramps are better that u feel more relaxed about it. Not long to wait now for your scan anyway. Save the money and use on baby!

Hey everyone else, hope all good with you and all the grads X

Ok preseed has got me curious. How far in advance can you use it? Because I think it would totally freak my dh out. Well I'm finally well enough to dtd which is a yippee! I also did something stupid. I looked when AF is due to arrive. I told myself I wanted to know if I could drink on Xmas but we all know that's a lie. My test date is the 17/12. Don't know if I'm scared optimistic or excited. But I am downright stupid. Lol

I'm cd8 too footy high five! Lol that is a bit weird about the temps but surely cd5 could not be ovulation? Keep testing! And jump dh obvs

jam don't beat yourself up it's normal to panic in this weird ass process. Ttc is not conducive to a healthy mental state. I have decided.

Haha tee enjoy it! Glad you are feeling a bit calmer. Your first scan will be here in no time!

Ha beagles, that's exactly what I've been looking at! Hoping we all get our BFP before Christmas.
With the Preseed it suggests to use it at least 30 mins before dtd, so whenever u get the opp. Sometimes I use the applicator (u only need a pea sized amount otherwise you will be sliding all over the place lol). If I had forgotten it then just before dtd I use a tiny smidgen just in the entrance and that's just enough. If u use too much and not leave it in long enough it might all fall out if u move around and the swimmers will be doing some ice skating
I've become a bit obsessed myself with everything! Temps and peeing on sticks, grapefruit juice, kiwi's, nuts, legs in air, dtd every other day for whole last cycle. Crazy

Helllo all, hope everyone's good. Do any of you experts know anything about SSRIs and TTC? I have been on and off citalopram for a while with a delightful mix of anxiety, depression and OCD. I'm off now for TTC as my doctor strongly suggested. She said best to stop if I can or "at least" go onto fluoxetine, presumably because that has had more research done. I'm really struggling at the moment and it's really taking a toll on my work (I'm a lawyer). it's a double bind as I'm stressed and anxious about work, then it affects my ability to do my work and then I get more stressed. I am wondering about whether to a) take fluox and stop TTC b) take fluox and keep TTC poss coming off if/when find out im preg and c) not taking fluox, get pregnant and then rejoice at idea of 1 year mat leave then going back part time. It's just if I could be trying for ages I'll prob have cracked up and lost my job (hopefully that's an exaggeration). Man I hate my job though it pays v well. We've just bought a house too so increased expenditure...

Earth I came off citalopram to start TTC, was on it for anxiety. I've been largely fine, it flares up a bit now and then and I have beta blockers that take the edge off. Had some cbt too and was trying to be more relaxed and calm generally ..

I think maybe you could come off very slowly and see how you feel? Give yourself a test period of 3 months to assess how you are without it. If you are not managing then you could try fluoxetine.

I know it's hard changing this kind of medication, but if it's going to worry you TTC and getting pregnant then I think it would be worth it. Have you tried talking therapy before?

Thanks jam I had only gone back on citalo for about a month after recent episode when we decided to TTC (we thought pretty much ok let's do it now) so I just stopped altogether from 20mg. I am seeing a therapist once a week and I find helpful (if expensive) but almost a month off citalo and am feeling down, tearful, anxious with nervous energy and not sleeping great, hard to concentrate. Also contributed I think to feeling anxious about TTC! I am hoping to level out and be ok if not great. But I'm not there just now. So beta blockers are safe?

To clarify my first sentence - the recent episode was not TTC related, it was work. So went on citalo then we thought let go for it. I had started seeing therapist and spoke to my boss at work so thought would be ok...

Sorry to bring down the mood with my miseryguts

Don't be daft earth! Come and talk if you need to! Sadly I don't have a clue about those meds so can't advise. All I'd say is give yourself a few days before making any decisions and listen to the advice of your therapist on how to make the most practical and logical decision for you (e.g. Pro con lists are my saviour after advice from a therapist years ago). And of course come talk to us.

I'm sure someone else will be along with better advice!

A month off citalopram I was quite wobbly too I think. Give yourself a bit longer if you can. Beta blockers are fine for TTC as far as I can tell but not encouraged regularly during pregnancy. I hardly ever use them - maybe one every 2-3 months? They are good for taking the edge off if you are feeling panicky.

Ok so it might naturally get better - hope is on the horizon then! I might take one before bed tonight to try and sleep. And thank you motherofbeagles that sounds good idea, gets the ideas out of of your head (on loop) and gets them down on paper.

Hi TTCers!
I've been really enjoying this thread. I wish I'd come across it earlier (I just got BFP after 5 cycles TTC, but I'm very uncertain how viable it is and I feel more at home here than elsewhere on the site). Oh, I'm 34 and brand new to all of this.

In response to Earth:
I've been taking fluoxetine for about three years. It certainly doesn't appear to affect fertility.
Before TTC I asked my doctors advice on coming off fluoxetine, and we came to the conclusion that it was better to stay on it, perhaps at a reduced dose. Fluoxetine has been pretty well studied, and there do not appear to be harmful side effects when it is taken during the first two trimesters, however if taken during right up until birth (particularly at high doses) the baby may experience withdrawal symptoms. Grim but, according to my doctor anyway, not as grim as having a terminally depressed mother.

I'm surprised I'm even writing this. I am terribly against medication, generally (I refused SSRIs for decades before succumbing). But depression really isn't something I want in my life again.

Anyway, sorry for the wall of text! Good luck everybody :) it's lovely to 'meet' you all!

Hi storm sounds like you have some good smarts! Also congrats on the bfp, positive thoughts!

No worries earth I also keep a pen next to my bed for when you have those nagging thoughts when you can't drop off and a whole notebook on my phone dedicated to stupid thoughts and worries. I've always been a writer and it helps me to get it physically out of my head.

lykke mother jam thank you all v much. I'm going to combine advice from all of you. I made a doctor's appt for two weeks time so will see how I feel by then (6 weeks off citalo by then so we'll see if corner's turned) but ultimately if feeling awful then better to go on something than struggle along to detriment of job and life. Prepare pro and con list to marshall thoughts ahead of GP.

Lykke congratulations, I can understand concern but you sound like a healthy young woman (my husband keeps saying that to me) so no real reason to doubt. Sending you calm and peaceful vibes (fuck knows where I found those in my current state 😊)

Earth, hi ! don't know much about those meds but I do know that I was on lots of pain relief drugs- Gabapentin, and naproxen and was advised by my gp and gyne to wean off when I started ttc. Coming off them was a terrible couple of weeks of sickness though and my mood was affected. So Take care that you might feel worse before felling better.

Congrats lykke and welcome. How are you feeling? There are also a few grads on here that got their BFP's.

Cd 9
My temps are still high? Crazy! I go from last month all low temps and no ovulation to this month higher temps! Not sure if I ovulated or not. Will see in a few days I guess.?

Jam, any positive opk yet?

Cd15 and a lovely strong positive OPK hurrah. DH up for more DTD tonight too. Another well timed cycle of DTD and regular ovulation - which is great, but where's my BFP???

Footy hope you ovulated! Are you still keeping up DTD?

Yes keeping it up day off in between. Well done Jam! Out BFPs are waiting for us. DH asked what I want for Christmas.. A baby!! Please

*our BFPs that was suppose to say.

Aargh my messages keep disappearing.

Sorry I've been absent, I've been full of cold, busy at work and at a conference!

AF arrived an the first day of the conference in Scotland. Had a good catch up with people I used to work with. Not feeling downhearted as I want keen on an August baby so that a good thing.

I'm full of cold and suffering. Going out tonight for dinner but really not that bothered. (is my birthday meal so I'll make an effort).

Test day this cycle is 18th Dec so I'm crossing my finger for a Christmas BFP.