Planet viroid, a spiritual home for all of the shaggers! It's JS 61, this is going to be the big one!

[Tinkfromlovejoy]

Fred rules (copied and adapted from previous Fred)

1. Thou shalt shag as much as humanly possible in order to get upduffed.
   
2. Thou shalt not partake of OPKs, temping, or charting.
   
3. Thou shalt keep symptom spotting to a minimum.
   
4. Thou shalt share with your fredmates where needed.
   
5. Thou shalt not be offended by the word vagina.
   

JSing lingo
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ERTD = Evil Red Tide of Dooooooommmmmmm. Or AF to most others. Also known as 'the witch', 'bitch witch' and 'that one with the red shiny convertible'

Viroid = This is you, dear poster. This is from the first JS thread when someone tried to type 'ladies' and it autocorrected to 'Viroids' - so there you go!

Pant snot = Egg white cervical mucus.

Doing a Kitten = Getting upduffed soon after joining (warning: may induce envy in other posters).

POAS = Pee On A Stick (of the pregnancy detecting kind, not from a tree). Also known as PIAR (Pee In A Ramekin - cos we're posh birds innit), or PIATLH (Tea light holder), PIAWG (Wine glass) or anything else you care to pee in! PONF = Pee on Nigel Farage (Self explanatory)

ROC = Receptacle of Choice - what one chooses to use for the task of POAS. Optional decorations include photographs of controversial political leaders.

JIAC = Jizz in a Cup. Preferable to jizz on the carpet or jizz in the eye. This one's for the lucky men in our lives.

Jizz in a bra = how we transport the jizz to the Sperm Queen

Shagging like 'something' = JSing like a teenage nymphomaniac.

Giving a hooya = Giving a much needed slap to a fellow poster in danger of slipping into TTC obsession. Warning - this may happen to you if you start trying to POAS at 5dpo. PUT. THE. PISSY. STICK. DOWN. IT'S TOO EARLY!

Contraband (or Cuntraband) = Of COURSE none of us EVER partake of any silly OPKs or temp charting. They are Contraband.

Icing = ovulating. Another autocorrect development!

Getting your Cape on = planning some serious pouncing on DH/DP

SOTM = Shagger of the Month. Awarded with varying regularity to those viroids who go above and beyond EOD shagging in pursuit of that BFP

TWOT - Two Weeks of Torture. AKA Schroedingering!
TWPU - Two Week Piss Up!

Keeping your gingers = fingers crossed, yet another autocorrect development! Shortened to 'gx'

Doing a Lemon = Testing WAAAAAAAY to early!

Miroid - The male compadre of a viroid

Cat - Compulsory

Skittletits - Killer molten painful tits and nipples

Ghost jizz/goat jazz - When the amazing foof sucks up all the jizz - achieved when coming at the same time/nearly the same time.

The link to Part 59 is HERE

The current Grads Fred is HERE

The current Mumming Fred is HERE

The rather nobbish article in which we became a little bit notorious is HERE

The brilliantly pearl-clutchy Fred about 'how wooode' our Fred is darlings is HERE

Stats sheet is HERE

Recent research PROVING WE ARE RIGHT is HERE

We are the dark side of MN... Welcome!

[Ain626]

Yay Tink That's fab news!!!

[kwick]

Tink what amazeballs news!!! Will you keep us viroids posted on how it goes?

Shitty shit day at work... did not even get past 9am without crying... I feel so down about work at the mo, completely disagree with a decision not just because it puts me in a very awkward/vulnerable position but will be bad for so many. Just have to suck it up but it has shaken me to my core.

BFN this morning did not help...

[kwick]

Cannot leave it at that! PMA must win out!!
I am fertile, juicy and ripe
I am ready to have a healthy happy baby
I am open and ready for every good thing the universe is sending me
I am in perfect time

[Ain626]

Sorry to hear about your bad day kwick but glad you have some pma.

wondering if you can share the pma, I've had a shitty day too

[cookielove]

tink yay!! That must be such a wonderful step forward to take :)

Not much to report Af is due in a couple days!

[kwick]

Ain there is more than enough to go around - here you go:
Or in other words PMA!!!!

[coribeth]

Hey ain
That's great news Tink
So second acupuncture appt tomorrow and I'm really looking forward to it have felt great and very positive (apart from the Clomid induced sleep deprivation!)
Hope everyone is good Kwick sorry about bfn but still one more cycle closer to your bfp! you going for another round of iui or ivf?

[Hobbit19]

Oh that is just lovely news Tink, so pleased for you!

Hi Ain, how are you?

Good news about fortnightly scans Chat.

Corgi do you have a scan this week?

I joined in Jan 2015 and had Xmas Pud a year later. Joined again just now but going to hold off on ttc until Jan again so we can go on a family holiday in the summer.

[kwick]

coribeth I am testing early on internet cheapies - despite another BFN this morning I will carry on testing until official test date on Friday.
I will most likely do IVF again if no BFP

[Ain626]

I'll keep my gx for you Kwick.

Hi Cori and Pud

Filling you guys in at where I'm at... I'm currently on CD 77. sigh I think I ov'd on 13th November - positive ovulation tests, ewcm, some cramping, etc. 2 weeks later on the 27th I had some light spotting, and it stopped pretty quickly. I did do a FRER where I thought I saw the faintest ever line, have a look here should you be inclined, but then the next day I couldn't see anything at all so thinking I have line eyes/it's an evap or something. Still no proper bleeding though. But then, with PCOS, who knows whats going on! I have a FC appointment in a couple weeks but I'm certain they are still going to just tell me that I'm too fat. I'm trying really hard with losing weight, people comment all the time now on how much weight I've lost, my clothes are smaller sizes, etc. but the scales (and therefore my BMI) has not dropped at all and it's only BMI the docs seem interested in.

[cookielove]

ain I am that way inclined but it won't let me view it!

[jellypi3]

tink thats fantastic! I'm all emosh for you. Pleas do keep us updated!

ain welcome back! Sorry to hear you are still getting trouble with your PCOS. What is your bmi currently?

[corgi88]

tink what bloody brilliant news! So excited for you, really hope all goes swimmingly. My friends adopted 2 little boys a few months ago and they are so happy
Ain welcome back! I can't see this pic either?
Well done on the weight loss and fitting into smaller clothes. Sometimes bmi does lag with wt loss especially if you put muscle on instead of fat, so hopefully you're not too far off.
Kwick excellent pma. Sorry you had such a poo day at work - it's horrible when you're trying not to cry and then lose the control! Still keeping gx for you (and tiny hooya for testing before OTD).
Pud scan is tomorrow morning i am shitting myself . This château holiday sounds incredible!!!! Might cheekily invite myself along imagine the wine!!!

[Tinkfromlovejoy]

Thanks all. Ball is rolling, first appointment before Christmas, eek!

ain I can't see it either, won't let me view. have you done another one since? Maybe get another frer?
I have to add that I think the whole bmi thing is bollocks, if you're healthy, numbers on a chart should not dictate your chances

corgi good luck with scan.

cori good luck with acupuncture.

kwick crossing everything for you, bfns mean nothing this early, especially on ics.

Judging by the different ways we're all starting families on the Fred, the title "just shagging" kind of makes me smile now!! I hope any newbies/lurkers aren't put off!

[kwick]

corgi gx for scan tomorrow.

Did a day trip to Brussels today - am shattered did not help that one of my bosses made me cry this morning. Work is pretty pants at the moment.
Another BFN this morning - I am using HCG strip tests. Will break out FRER on Friday.

Tink sounds exciting!!! My cousin adopted a lovely baby girl after years of TTC. She has brought them so much joy.

[Hobbit19]

Ooft, Kwick that sounds like a tough day. I really hope you get your bfp soon!

Corgi, I'll be thinking of you tomorrow!

So, we will be TTC v enthusiastically after Xmas. So it would be absolutely mental to sign up for a hilly off-road marathon in May wouldn't it? Even if it was a super duper feminist marathon? And in a beautiful setting in Devon? Somebody slap me!

[Ain626]

Not sure to why it won't let you guys view it... never mind...

I just worked out my bmi to be 40.1 still. I get that weight is an important factor. I really do. I'm also really short though which is against me. I just put in my weight and one inch taller and my bmi drops to 38.8. If I were 5 ft 2 I would qualify for clomid at my current weight. My boobs are also pretty big. I genuinely think if I chopped them off my weight would drop enough! Clothes wise I'm currently a 16-18... I used to be a 20-22 before ttc - but my weight wasn't much more than what it is currently. I just don't get it! It's so frustrating. I'm not happy at my current weight, but I don't know how to fix it. I've been extra teary about the whole thing lately. Ain = hormonal mess right now! Still no bleeding. Still feeling sick/sore boobs/etc. after my potential ov-ing a couple weeks ago.

Sorry about my hormonal ranting... feel free to ignore and not reply. I think I just needed to vent and at least I know you guys can understand the heartbreak of wanting a family so badly and getting frustrated with the waiting. Love the viroid family!

Will try to restore normal Ain as soon as possible. looking for the button to turn off and on again

[ChatEnOeuf]

Welcome back Ain! We missed you! Storming effort to lose all those dress sizes, well done. I'm sure the numbers will follow in time, frustrating though it must be.

Tink!! So excited for you, my lovely.

Good luck for tomorrow Corgi - here with a hand to hold.

PMAs for everyone, GX for the FRER Kwick

[kwick]

Ain I hear your pain - I am 5ft 4 and over 100kg (sorry about mixing imperial with metric!). My BMI is through the roof.
The FC have barely mentioned my weight as a problem (may just be after my money), but a recent discussion with FC Dr then consultant was that the important thing is not to gain further weight and I have been put on Inofolic to help my egg quality and lose weight.

Had the most God awful night... I am so stressed with work... again. Something has got to give, this is no way to live my life.

Another BFN this morning but was not FMU - yep I am still hanging on to hope!

[corgi88]

Thanks for handholds viroids. Little 9+2 blob with heartbeat this morning! So relieved for all of 2 minutes before I start worrying about the 12week scan

Ain sorry you are having a hard time lovely. Rant away- that's what we're here for! My friend is also tiny with huge boobs and her bmi is overinflated because of that. Have you considered the 5:2 diet? My parents are completely obsessed with it and have lost lots of weight plus it is supposed to have other health benefits...?
Pud do it and invoke the law of sod!
Kwick can you look for other jobs that aren't as horribly stressful? Big hugs.

[jellypi3]

tink that is very true, not many of us are traditional js'ers lol!

ain you've done so well to drop that many sizes! Bmi is a terrible way to work out weight and health. My nan is desperate for a knee operation and has lost 6 stone but her bmi is still just too high for it.

[kwick]

Had another crying jag at work today... think I am through it now & business as usual is restored. I really hope I sleep tonight.

corgi such good news!!!

So I actually did something I have been meaning to do FOREVER and that is "outsource" the updating and redesign of my CV!!!

[Tinkletwinkle]

kwick hope you're ok, work stress is the pits. A few years ago I switched companies, took a massive demotion and pay cut and have never looked back. It was through choice I might add!

Yay corgi

jelli chat pud it's so nice to see you

ain go gentle on yourself, endocrine problems like pcos are renowned for making sufferers feel low trust me, I know You're doing great, and you'll get there one way or the other. Do you want clomid?

(Name changed for spying purposes)

[cookielove]

Hello all :)

Urgh I feel your pain with weight issues ain although I have teeny boobs so my weight is all me I have lost just over 2 stone and I am really struggling to get the next two off and need a kick up the bum. You say you are bleeding, is it spotting or af?

kwick I have every thing crossed for you!!

pud that sounds insane 😂

Soo my period was due today and it hasn't come, this is good news but I am pretty sure I am not pregnant as we still aren't actually trying we only dtd in cd 6 and I tested bfn yesterday. So it means it may be lengthening. Today is cd25, fx I get to 28 :)

[Hobbit19]

Yey Corgi, that's amazing news!!