Short Luteal Phase Thread 4!

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Hope you don't mind the newbie starting the new thread but thread 4 for those with a short LP!

Will try and add previous thread link later - no idea how to on my phone!

My AMH was too low, it needs to be atleast 5.4 and mine was only 4.6. I'm just so glad we able to go privately. Friendly, hopefully you will be ok to go NHS as I think your AMH was quite a bit higher than mine? Sorry to hear you're having a bad time at work, I know how you feel as I feel so trapped in my job and my hearts really not in it anymore. Good that you have a frozen embryo to transfer, let us know how you get on at the clinic.

I'm just waiting for AF now, my fridge is packed full of drugs, even looking at them terrifies me. I'm deading the injections, especially when it comes to doing them twice a day, I think I may have to get DH to do it for me. Did you get on ok with them Friendly? xx

Sunshine wishing you all the luck in the world, keep us updated.

Friendly, hope you're recovering ok. It's so hard but I've every faith all with work out x

That is so close Sunshine, I cannot believe they refused treatment because of that. However, it sounds like you are with a great clinic so maybe things really do happen for a reason? My AMH was about 9 in the summer so I may just about be eligible for NHS treatment but I have a high FSH so that might count me out? The thought of going for appointments, tests and starting the whole process somewhere else is frankly exhausting. I've really got to know a lot of the doctors and nurses at my clinic and I trust them and feel I'm in good hands so I'd really like to stay with them if finances allow.

Trapped is exactly how I feel at work, it's awful. If I wasn't trying to conceive I would definitely be looking to move on. My company is losing money and going through a restructure so I have a feeling the decision may be made for me soon :(

Sunshine, please don't worry about the injections. The thought of it is so much worse than the reality. I got my DH to do them for me the first few times but then he had to go away with work so I had no choice but to do it myself. The needles aren't too big and are very sharp so they go in easily and promise you barely feel it.. this is coming from someone who used to faint at the sight of a needle!! You will be fine xx

Mascara, you are so lovely to have stuck around and continued your amazing support. Thank you xx

I genuinely want you all to get those bfps and have your babies in your arms! Until then I will lurk! This thread was one I started and I was so well supported and I won't leave until you've got your babies!

Agree with the other ladies Mascara, thankyou for sticking around to support us.

Mrsunsure, AF is due around this time next week so should be starting then. I wish I could feel excited or even hopeful about it, but I can't help but feel so negative about the whole thing like I already know it's not going to work. I honestly used to be so positive about everything but I think theres been so much disappointment already with this ttc thing that I'm just dreading another let down. Tbh I still can't really believe it has come to this, it doesn't really feel real.

Friendly, how does the frozen transfer process work? Do you still need much medication?

Mrsunsure, how are you getting on now? xx

Hi ladies. I had a follow up consultation at my clinic last week and now trying to decide what to do next. As I see it, we have 3 options: 1) go for a frozen embryo transfer ASAP 2) go for a fresh round of IVF privately 3) wait for a fresh round of IVF with the NHS.

I'm veering toward option 2. I'm still worried about my high FSH level and feel like doing another round of IVF would hopefully get us more embryos and will allow us to add to our family if we do manage to conceive. It may seem crazy to think about number 2 now but really think this is something I need to consider. I called the NHS last week to try and find out exactly when I could have IVF as believe I'm due a round in January and got absolutely nowhere (I know I shouldn't be surprised). I feel like I know and trust my clinic now and the thought of going through the whole rigmarole of scans and tests elsewhere is frankly exhausting.

My husband leaves the army at the end of next month so at least we'll now be together for future fertile windows! I still haven't completely given up on us conceiving naturally!

Sunshine, when are you expecting AF? I'm thinking of you and wishing you all the luck in the world. You have every reason to be positive and I really think a positive attitude helps, it will work for you! In answer to your question, for a frozen embryo transfer (FET), it can be natural or medicated but my consultant said the current thinking is that unmedicated is best i.e. following your natural cycle so the only thing you use is Ovitrelle to stimulate ovulation so you get timings right and schedule the transfer when implantation would have naturally taken place xx

Friendly, you are definitely not alone in thinking about the future, and I also would be favouring option 2 as a little bit of reassurance for the future. I do often think about DC2 (if we ever get to that stage), and having to go through all this again. Do you know when you can start again?

I'm 10dpo today and having pretty bad cramps so wouldn't be surprised if AF is here tomorrow. As much as I really really want to be positive, I'm really struggling with it all I just can't imagine that I'll ever get to see that BFP!! I think I've always been a little bit in denial that a miracle would happen before we actually had to start treatment.

Mrsunsure, how are you getting on now? Are you ladies both still having acupuncture? xx

AF arrived this morning and baseline scan booked in for Thursday, I'm just a bit worried about having the scan whilst AF is here...

Friendly, I've just got a few questions I hope you don't mind answering please... on the consent forms how many years did you consent to freeze any embryos for? And did you have to pay the full cost for how long you agreed straight away?

Also when did you pay the licence fee? Did you have to pay an additional cost for blastocyst culture? I'm not sure when we have to pay out for these bits x

Hi Sunshine, I said to freeze our embryos for 10 years (this was the maximum amount of time and the payment was a flat fee i.e. the amount of time frozen didn't affect the cost). I remember getting the invoice a few days after we were notified we had embryos good enough to freeze and think we had to pay the invoice within 14 days. We paid the HFEA licence fee before I had egg collection. We had to pay extra for blastocyst culture and again, we got an invoice a few days after we got to that stage. I hope that helps, it might be different for other clinics but it's confusing and no one really talked us through all this either so we found out as went along. I hope all goes well at your baseline scan tomorrow, I was on day 5 when I had mine so just a bit of spotting but I'm sure the sonographers are very used to doing scans on ladies with full flow so don't worry! Please let us know how it goes xx

All ok my end, I'm starting acupuncture again this weekend and am thinking of trying fertility massage too. I finally spoke to someone at the NHS and apparently they are going to send me a consultation appt to discuss IVF but I'll believe it when I see it! Otherwise, thinking another round of private IVF in Jan/Feb xx

Thanks for all your advice Friendly, it has really helped

Unfortunately last night during my baseline scan they found a large cyst on my ovary. Due to the size of it she wasn't happy for me to start the IVF this cycle. I'd been having a really painful period that had kept me awake the first couple of nights, I was even sick the 1st night, though just assumed it was a nasty AF, but is obviously from the cyst and she said if i suffer anymore extreme pain I have to go straight to A&E. So not only am I absolutely gutted about having to miss the IVF, I'm also scared about the cyst bursting.

She did say that if I go in on CD2 of my next AF and the cyst is still there she will book me in to have it drained the following morning so we should still be able to go ahead. Apparently the procedure is pretty much the same as egg collection, except they take the fluid out instead of eggs. Goodness knows how much extra that's going to cost

It just feels like one step forward, 2 steps back... xx

Oh Sunshine I'm so sorry to hear this, you really have had rotten luck. Just when you'd got your head around having IVF as well, there's nothing worse than to gear yourself up for something and then it not happen. The pain sounds absolutely horrendous and I'm really sorry you've had to go through all this. I know it doesn't seem like it now but another 3-4 weeks isn't too long to wait to get cracking again and it's good that they've found the cyst now rather than finding it after you'd started the injections. I hope you're ok and not feeling too frustrated with it all, try and keep busy! I promise we will get there, we just have a much crappier journey to get there than most xx

Thanks for your support Friendly. It is all really rubbish isnt it.

I'm keeping absolutely everything crossed that it will have gone on its own, especially as if I need to get it drained it looks like it will probably fall on my birthday (give or take a day.) But if we don't do it then it won't be until after christmas and I've built myself up to it now.

I hope everything is ok with you xx

Mrsunsure, sorry to hear you are also feeling crappy. Are you still having your acupuncture? Have you had another appointment through?

I have often thought the same thing as Mrsunsure, Friendly you always manage to stay so positive and strong xx

Are you going to try the clomid again Mrsunsure? Hope it works for you.

I'm just waiting for AF now which is due week, and then will go in for another scan on CD2 to check on the cyst to see if I need to get it drained. Its just another worry, I'm fairly sure it's still there as still having a few pains.

How are you getting on Friendly? xx

*that should say due next week

I was just thinking of you Sunshine. I hope the cyst has gone away on its own and if not, I hope the draining procedure is quick and easy. Will you then start IVF next cycle whatever happens?

I'm also waiting for AF to arrive. Mrs, do you mind me asking how long it took for your cycles to get back to normal after your miscarriage? I'm on cd 30 which is a really long cycle for me but think it's normal for it to be long after a miscarriage. Other than that, just trying to keep busy to keep my mind off things. DH leaves the army and is finally home as of the end of next month so I absolutely cannot wait for that and to have some normality in our lives xx

Ladies just checking in.

Sunshine sorry to hear about the cyst. Next cycle hun, keep going. One more cycle!!

Friendly, hope you're ok and hopefully AF will settle soon for you.

Mrs, I hope Clomid works it's magic for you.

Take care ladies, I will keep checking back. Each time I hope for good news. Can't wait to see some