Ttc after stopping the pill thread 3. Join us for: Super long cycles, living in limbo, obscene amounts of poas and trying anything and everything to get that bun in the oven!

[BoBo90]

Welcome to the 3rd thread for anyone ttc after coming off the pill

We're a lovely group of ladies here to support one another through the wonderful pain in the bum experience that is trying to have a baby

If your new to the thread please join us and if you are a lurker from our previous thread then don't be shy say hi!

Here's the link to the previuos thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2559429-The-craziness-that-is-TTC-after-stopping-the-pill-On-this-thread-we-have-100-day-cycles-do-weeks-of-opks-and-send-ovia-into-a-fit-with-our-ever-changing-fertile-windows-Welcome

I'm not using a proper bbt thermometer, but I do check my temp with a digital one, so accurate to one decimal place. To be honest, I don't see a pattern. At the moment it varies from 36.4 to 36.9 C. May invest in one if the next few cycles aren't successful, see if there's something I'm missing! Do you check yours purple?

Will start using the OPKs this week, (yay!).

Morning girls! I've updated the list If I've missed anything/got anything wrong let me know!

Girls in the tww:
Marmite - 6/7dpo
BoBo - 4dpo
Claire - 2dpo

Ladies-in-waiting
Cookie22 - ttc #1 - Cycle 8
Bobo90 - ttc #1 - Cycle 5
Shankate/Helpmeconceive - Cycle 4
Tinyemmy - ttc #2 - Cycle 3
Poin - ttc #1 - On hold-ish
Mummy2squish -
Sparkle789 - Cycle 1
CatMum87 - ttc #1 - Cycle 2
May07 - ttc#1 - Cycle 4
Iwillbemrsminty - ttc #1 - Cycle 4
Loulabelle1990 - ttc #1 - Cycle 5
Johno85 - ttc #1 - Cycle 7
ClaireSunflower - Cycle 2
Sophronia - ttc #1 - Cycle 2
SusieBu16 -ttc #2
Purpleviola14 - ttc #1 - Cycle 2
Chloe2413 - ttc #1
Marmitetoast1 - ttc#1 - Cycle 2
Happybus28
Jjspoon - ttc #1 - Cycle 1
Pyjamas81 - ttc #1 - Cycle 1
MishyBakes - ttc #1 - Cycle 2
Artynic - ttc #1 - Cycle 2
Sarahhh1984 - ttc #1 - Cycle 1

Resident Preggos
Firstgo1984
LemonShizzleCake
Sunnydays321
cnchapmanxx
Thisisbloodyridiculous
Lawyeredout82
HighHopes16

Thanks for updating the list BoBo!

Thanks for the list Bobo! Nice to know I have some buddies just a few days behind me in the 2ww Bobo and Claire
No other symptoms so far purple, just plenty of what Ovia terms 'school glue' CM which is what would expect at this point in cycle either way! Had an totally shit day at work on Friday and been a bit down about that all weekend though so at least have been somewhat distracted from symptom spotting!

Know I'm going to sound neurotic - and I've been determined not to be a symptom spotter, at least not at first - but I don't half feel weird.

As I've mentioned, I've had cramps all of last week which continued into the weekend. They've eased up today but they're still there. I've also had lower back pain, my boobs went bigger and heavier (much to DH's delight!) and just a little earlier I went really hot and dizzy - something that never happens to me.

As I should be approaching my last withdrawal bleed tomorrow (having taken my last pill on Saturday before starting TTC) these symptoms are very unexpected as, for the last 14 years, my only PMS symptom has been some mild cramping on the day my withdrawal bleed is due. I'm starting to wonder if I could have, by some miracle, conceived in the last month while still on the pill. We have DTD a lot in the last few weeks as it was our first wedding anniversary.

I'm just sceptical as it just seems highly unlikely to me that I would have managed to get pregnant on the pill after 14 years without even the slightest hiccup. But it also seems bizarre that my PMS symptoms would suddenly change after 14 years on the very last month of taking the pill.

Does anyone think it's worth doing a test tomorrow morning just in case? Or wait to see if my withdrawal bleed comes on when it's due? It's usually like clockwork, either the Tuesday night or Wednesday morning. So I suppose it could be worth just waiting and seeing, but any advice would be appreciated!

Marmite - it is nice to have testing buddies and surely at least one of us has to get a bfp!

Sarah - The sensible rational side of me says it is highly unlikely you are upduffed while being on the pill. Nearly all of us started thinking we were pregnant in the first cycle because we are all suddenly paying so much more attention to every little twinge and niggle.
Odds are you have always had some of those symptoms pre af you just haven't been analysing them so didn't notice.

The other side of me says anything can happen when ttc! I would take a test if I were you just to be sure I wouldn't assume your not pregnant based on your withdrawal bleed as it is caused by coming off the pill and not natural. I would worry that the pill could cause the bleed regardless of whether your are pg or not. Only sure way to know is to test my lovely

I agree with bobo (ps thanks for the updated list!)

When I came off the pill, I had terrible headaches, backache, felt nauseous and stomach cramps, I was sure I was preggo but 7 months down the line it's still not happened! But, just to be sure and if it will make you feel better rather than going out your mind then take a test .

I have had my 4th day of a blank circle on my CB opk! CD 16 today. I got my first flashing smiley last cycle on cd 16 but last cycle was longer so I'm hoping that's why!

Thanks Loula and BoBo.

I'm sure you're both right and it's probably just because I'm noticing things more. All though I honestly can say I've never had week long cramping that I can recall!

I think I'll wait to see if my withdrawal bleed comes on tomorrow/Wednesday and, if the symptoms go away when it arrives, I'll leave it. If it doesn't come on or seems different to usual, then I'll do a test.

If the test is a BFN (which I would fully expect) but I still feel dreadful, I'll go speak to my GP in case there's something else going on.

I'm with you ladies though, it's probably PMS that's exaggerated because I'm paying more attention.

I'm just glad I can come on here and ask for opinions/advice as I don't really want to discuss TTC with my friends or family beyond my DH! So thank you.

Hope you get that flashing smiley soon Loula!

Xx

Mushy yeah I do, when I started temping a couple of months ago orally my chart was all over the place, then I read switching to the other way is more accurate and it definitely helped me see the pattern and pin point ovulation.
Is it your first time using OPKs? I got so excited when I started using them lol kind of felt 'official'.

Sorry to hear you've felt down marmite, I think work stresses definitely affect your mental health and wellbeing.

Sarah I agree with Loula and Bobo, Id test just to stop yourself going crazy but ttc does have a psychological affect on you and I think you can totally convince yourself you are pregnant. When I first came off the pill I'd convinced myself I could feel a baby and something was different haha. Those little pills are buggers for playing tricks!
Fx for the girls in the tww xx

Mishy! God dam auto correct xx

Mushy works for me purple!

Forgive me for sounding stupid, but what is the other way of monitoring bbt? Is that the special thermometer? I used the OPKs last month, and it has started to sink in that it's real and that we're officially trying!

Sorry to hear work has been rubbish marmite, hope this week is much better for you!

Lol sorry I do it all the time I really should read my text before I hit send!

Well my friend goes to a fertility acupuncturist, and she took one look at my chart and told me to temp vaginally instead of orally. So I did and it's so much clearer.
So I have 2 bbt thermometers to compare and can really see the difference. Just make sure you do it first thing in the morning before you even move around. And don't forget which ones which hahaha xx

I've taken your advice purple and ordered a bbt thermometer! I'll track vaginally as you suggest, hopefully I'll pick out a pattern this time!

Cool mushy, I honestly don't think you'll regret it, I've attached my chart from my last cycle so you can see the difference, CD 38 is when I changed and my temps went up as they seemed really low when I did it orally, then I saw a clear pattern and knew when to use my OPKs at CD63 as my temp went down and EWCM so had s feeling is ovulate and I did. Hopefully it will make things clearer for you lovely xx

Dam this stupid phone to eternal hell! Mishy! holds head in hands

Thanks purple.

I know it probably sounds bonkers, but I kind of don't want to test at the moment. I feel like if I start testing now to put my mind at ease, I'll end up doing it every month (or, knowing me, every week!). I pretty much know I can't be pregnant (unless I'm experiencing one of the most opportune pill failures ever!) so I think unless my withdrawal bleed doesn't happen, or I continue feeling off after it does, I'll just not test for now.

Although if nature doesn't take its course in the first few months, I'll probably start peeing on every stick in sight!

Fx for everyone in their 2ww from me as well.

Xx

I'm in 2ww too :) 5dpo today so marmite and bobo guess we will be testing around the same time and maybe claire too? Absolutely no symptoms for me at all yet though.

Ooh we've got quite a big group of tww'ers!

I'm 5dpo today too Jj 🙂 When are you going to test? I was thinking of testing Sunday at 10dpo but not sure whether to wait until Monday. I only have a 12 day lp

When is everyone else testing? Marmite? Claire? 🙂

That's great purple, thanks for sharing that chart. Quite looking forward to seeing a pattern using the bbt thermometer! I'll answer to mushy, no need to correct it!

Fx for everyone in the tww!

Hi bobo I'm not sure when I'll test... going to try and hold out as long as poss but definitely by 15dpo as I have a night out planned and want to have a few drinks if not! I have no idea how long my lp is yet as last month only 26 day cycle so I'm guessing this cycle will be a bit longer otherwise it would only be 11 day lp but maybe that is right, I don't know yet!

(I dont think I ovulated last cycle so that's why I don't think I can go by that to guess this month or lp)

Thanks purple and mishy, yes, I've been let down and treated quite badly by my totally and utterly incompetent manager and I've been feeling very stressed/upset/angry. Even though I know those feelings aren't good for me I can't seem to turn them off at the moment! Thank goodness i'm off on holiday on Saturday at least!

Bobo skim reading the page there I thought you said we had a big group of twerkers at first as opposed to tww-ers! Pahahah. Maybe we should just all twerk to distract us from 2ww?!

Haven't decided when to test yet, I was going to wait until AF actually due. But obviously still unclear on cycle length. If 36 days again that takes me 2nd July. But I think/hope it might be a bit shorter this time. We are off on holiday on Saturday - 25th June - so part of me is tempted to test that morning before we go...that way will know more about situ!! That would be CD30 for me. Can't decide if i'd feel a bit mental finding out one way or other then getting on a plane though. What do you guys think, test on Saturday or chuck a few tests in suitcase and give it a bit longer and do it when I'm there and (hopefully) nice and chilled about it all?!? I think I am currently about 7dpo. So by Saturday morning I would be about 11dpo. I do have a couple of Frers stashed... [hhmm]

What date will be 15dpo for you Jj?
Are you thinking Sunday or Monday Bobo?
When are you thinking of testing Claire?

Lmao marmite at twerking to distract from the, sounds like an advert or something.
Urgh your boss sounds awful poor you, don't let it get you down, I've had some serious chats with myself recently about how important it is to be happy at work and stress free, especially in this ttc game. Xx

15dpo will be next Thursday 30th but that seems so far away :(! I'm tempted to test a few days before but at the same time if I get a BFN I would want to test again then anyway if af wasn't here. Monday will be cd27 which was cd1/when I got AF last month so maybe I will test then if I get impatient!

Marmite and purple I'm so stressed at work at the moment too, sucks doesn't it. I keep trying to tell myself to chill out and I can only do what I can at work but it's so hard not to let it get to me. Especially when like you girls I have other more important things to think about. I think when I do get BFP it'll go down like a lead balloon at work... don't think they'll be happy at all!