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Thread 8, TTC #1. Change my FW one more time Ovia, I dare you! TMI Warning throughout.

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StarkyTheDirewolf · 26/01/2016 14:09

Symptom spotters, tww - ers, slightly hysterical hormone laden ladies! Regs, lurkers, intermittent posters! Our raison d'etre is 'am I pregnant?' Depending on how much Ovia (Whybird) has pissed us off/messed with our fw she is either the oracle or a sanctimonious charlatan.

Just a warning, we move FAST! Our threads last on average, about a week before they're full.

Thread 8 , Welcome one and all! Group of weirdos, wee hoarders, covert opk or okp, depending on what your autocorrect decides addicts with a side business in CM management!

We do not judge, we enjoy TMI, we i encourage waiting to poas nobody listens and all the grossness you can find from a group of intelligent, articulate ladies. Fart stories make us laugh, stories about cervical mucus, pooing, cysts and nausea equally welcome. Although normal conversation is also encouraged.

Post your stats and add your dates. We have a register thanks to kat a resident piss stick queen runner loaaaaaads of bfp'ers who keep us positive! We don't have rules, we love a good symptom spot, we try to stay grounded and not be hysterical sometimes we manage it aswell

We like acronyms, we make some up: PET = Proper expensive test. We love the d(h)...which can of course mean 'dearest' or 'dickhead' why, what were you thinking?

Thread 8, TTC #1. Change my FW one more time Ovia, I dare you! TMI Warning throughout.
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Evergreen15 · 27/01/2016 09:17

And flips and fruggi vests ?? Imp what is this?! Do you save money compared to disposable? I know you must be helping the environment... Although all the washing... So complicated!!!!!!

Planeteer · 27/01/2016 09:21

Joining the crew that thinks imp is some sort of nappy wizard. So. Much. To. Learn!
Hope docs goes ok today ever.
Imp re poas, I think it depends how your brain's feeling. Would a bfn make today truly shit? If so, hang fire.

Chocaholic88 · 27/01/2016 09:24

Feeling seriously smug at finally proving to myself I need to be on the grads list (I'm simple today) jahaha

Chocaholic88 · 27/01/2016 09:30

imp that's so true... I did it with both of my previous pregnancies and I'm already randomly googling stuff for this one hahaha

ImpYCelyn · 27/01/2016 09:43

ever here's a brief overview.

There are several different types of cloth nappy. Most basic are squares of towelling à la old school, which need a waterproof wrap. Then you have fitteds, which are cloth shaped like nappies, and need a waterproof wrap (these are bombproof and super reliable, but can be bulky). Then there are ones where the waterproof is attached to the inside part, but you have to stuff cloth inside to increase absorbency, these are pockets ( can be made up in advance, straightforward, often leak ime). And then you have all in ones, which are as the name suggests and most like disposable nappies (these are a bugger to dry, more expensive, still leak ime, but dead easy to use). And then there's a few weird and wonderful variations. Flips are basically a pad which sits in a wrap. They'd be rubbish for a baby I think, but for a toddler when it's more of a just in case, and who doesn't poo often, they're nice and slim. Some people use them with babies.

Every time I put a disposable on my eldest overnight it leaked or even burst (he was covered in little pee absorbing beads). Bamboo cloth nappy with wrap = no leaks. Although the smell of ammonia was so strong in the morning it made my eyes water!

The initial outlay is high, and puts people off, but if you add it up they are cheaper in the long run than disposables. They massively reduce the chemical exposure compared to disposables. And disposables take between 300 and 700 years to biodegrade, whereas cloth doesn't. Also, depending on your sensibilities, you can buy (and sell) them used. And if you reuse for another baby you are serious quids in compared to disposables and for the planet. I bought fitteds used, I've used them in 2, they're in great condition and will do my third, and then I'll sell them or give them away = win for purse and planet.

Washing - you put them in a bucket with no water and no products. When ready to wash (every 24-72 hours depending on routine, drying times and how many you have), you through them in the machine, rub either a prewash or a rinse, wash on a normal cycle, with a seriously reduced quantity of non-bio powder, and then I hit the extended rinse button. You can line dry, but 15 mins in a tumbler once in a while fluffs them up a bit. You can wash them between 30 and 60. I normally do 40, with a 60 once a month.

Baby poo can go straight in the machine. It sounds grim, but modern machines and powders are more than able to cope with it. Once they're on solids, you tip it down the loo before you bucket them.

If you're washing nappies you can also wash wipes, which is another giant savings. A pre made set of cheeky wipes is about £35 and comes with everything you need, for ever. And that's it. Huggies wipes on offer are 75p per pack. That lasts about 3 days with a baby. Cloth wipes are much better at cleaning poo as well, wipes can sort of smear it. I made my own wipes, so it was even cheaper (I bought some second hand towelling squares and cut them up, not pretty but job done for about £5).

Frugi used to be called Cut4Cloth. All cloth nappies are bulkier than disposables, and these days baby clothes are made to fit over disposables. So vests in particular, but also sleepsuits and trousers can be a tight fit. Frugi makes clothes for cloth nappies. Plus they're organic, fair trade, and bright fun colours. Spendy full price, but okay in the sales.

You can't use normal nappy rash creams, it buffers the absorbency) but you can use stuff like CJs Butter which is divine and free of chemical nasties (it's technically edible). I still use their stuff on my boys.

Here's the nappy lady site for some ideas www.thenappylady.co.uk/reusable-nappies.html

ImpYCelyn · 27/01/2016 09:47

Planeteer I'll take nappy wizard although I'd rather be Gandalf Grin

I held off poas. Don't want a bfn.

Choc I'm already at it without one Hmm

Sorry my brief intro was fricking huge! Blush

Kathrino · 27/01/2016 09:53

I have to admit that I would never even have considered cloth nappies until I read that but I do like the idea of being able to re-use them and not feel like every bin/rubbish bag is filled with dirty and smelly nappies. Thank you for the info!

Ni4444 · 27/01/2016 09:53

This is amazing Imp Thank you!!!! wikk take me about 9 months to get my head around it all

I'm much more about the eco friendly stuff than my OH is. I'm sure he'll puke at the idea of throwing poopy nappies in the washing machine! let the battle begin

ImpYCelyn · 27/01/2016 10:03

I do think getting ones which work well is vital. I often see pockets and aios recommended because they're "easy", but then they leak and people get really upset and frustrated and give up. Which is a giant waste of money and goodwill. Fitteds are less cute, and a bit more bulky, but they work. And people aren't stupid, I think it's really patronising to say people can't cope with putting on a fitted, it's like a disposable with Velcro or some buttons, and then the same again over the top. It's not hard. So I always recommend those now.

But you do need to be able to buy them upfront, and some people don't want to have to wash. It's not tons more work, but it is a bit more, so fair enough if people don't want to. And fair enough if people think it's icky. It's not for everyone at all. With ds2, despite having them, I used a load of disposables as I was so tired with two under two. Then I got back to it :) For me it's not so much the money, it's the chemicals. But you do need to weigh up the pros and cons for you. Smile (obviously I'm pro them, but I'm not evangelical. I've sent my share of Huggies to landfill)

ElleSarcasmo · 27/01/2016 11:05

Impy that is really useful, thanks.

AF has started early here (CD 27) Sad so looks like I'll be on the Feb bus. No idea what day to test given that cycles have been 28,29,33 and now 27 days post pill! Maybe 28 days which would be 24 feb. No AF or any symptoms so that was a bit of a surprise! Roll on next FW.

Pinklily1 · 27/01/2016 11:07

Morning ladies, just keeping in the loop! The gross talk has been particularly entertaining in the new thread Smile

Starky, I think that's the greatest dogs name I've ever heard!

Anyway, my stats: Pink, aged 33, grad, currently harbouring baby no.1 - an 8+5 raspberry (or strawberry depending on the App you check).

Choc, get yourself over to the grad thread too. There are a lot of us there to share in your sickness woes Confused

LaraG13 · 27/01/2016 11:24

Sorry to hear yours out this month elle. As I understand it, variation in the length of a cycle by several days days is normal and still considered to be regular. So your cycles there are classed as regular, even though they're not exactly the same each month. Mine vary as well. Usually around 26-29 days. It's frustrating to never quite know when AF will turn up!

ElleSarcasmo · 27/01/2016 11:35

Kat sorry you're feeling fed up. Sympathy hugs and Flowers and fx this is your month.

Hi Pink!

ElleSarcasmo · 27/01/2016 11:38

Thanks Lara. I was thinking only yesterday that it would be nice if this cycle was shorter! I think I may have had a very early mc last cycle though never had a BFP, just felt so different. Anyway there's no way of knowing that, trying to think positive! How are things with you?

ElleSarcasmo · 27/01/2016 11:41

Also I did not know that cycles were deemed regular if they vary by a few days! I think the 33 day one for me was def an anomaly/poss early mc so should probably expect a 28/29 day cycle, we shall see. Soo wish I had come off the pill earlier so I had more idea of my normal!

Runner05 · 27/01/2016 11:57

Hi Ladies, I'm really struggling to keep up with this thread and the grads so I think I'm going to have to disappear from this one Sad

Can someone else take over directing people to the grads page please? Thanks

(May sneakily pop back and lurk whenever I have time)

Mileymoocow · 27/01/2016 11:59

imp I totally would poas. But you could wait for fmu tomorrow to be doubly sure.

planet I can't bare to. I can't even go into bloody asda without having a quick look!

elle sorry about af SadFlowers

Cthulhoo · 27/01/2016 12:02

Choc, but if you say that it's a good sign. You're officially upduffed. ;)

LaraG13 · 27/01/2016 12:04

kat sorry you're feeling rubbish. It's really hard when OH just isn't interested and you can't dtd enough. I know how you feel. I honestly think that just dtd every other day would give you as much chance as if you temp and chart. Especially when you take stress and pressure into account. So if the whole process is getting stressful I would definitely have a month off charting, and feel reassured that your chances probably arent any different. And I know it's easy to say but the fact you aren't preggo yet doesn't mean you're doing it wrong, or that there's anything amiss. It's just normal. The analogy I keep using is that it's like rolling a six. You can roll several times and not get one, while other people get one first time. Doesn't mean your die is faulty or that you're rolling it the wrong way. But if you keep on trying you'll get the six sooner or later.

elle I hope you're cycles settle down a bit. You may well have had an early miscarriage - I'm sure a few of us will have given how common they are. If anything that would be a normal occurance and a positive sign. I suppose there's different stuff going on to normal in there. Even if you don't end up pregnant, it's possible sperm and egg might have met but not fully implanted, or that implantation might just have happened but not quite stuck. All these things must be mega common for women Ttc and might play a role in the symptoms we spot, I reckon.
I'm fine thanks. Plodding along at day 5 and looking forward to FW!

LaraG13 · 27/01/2016 12:06

Sorry elle,didn't mean to say you did miscarfy or to upset you in any way. Just meant that there are probably different stages of pre pregnancy, or very early pregnancy occurances that are really common and cause symptoms. And that they're normal and if anything are a sign that things are going in the right direction, if that makes sense

Chocaholic88 · 27/01/2016 12:11

Where can I find the elusive grads thread pink and runner ??

Mileymoocow · 27/01/2016 12:24

I'm downloading FF because I genuinely can't deal with ovia's shit anymore. AF predicted 31st now? has already been 28th, 29th and 2nd

Mileymoocow · 27/01/2016 12:42

Bit off topic but... I have had dandruff for a couple of days and I've never had it before. It's really irritating me!!

Anyone get this coming in to af?

BelliniButterfly · 27/01/2016 12:46

Today's test.....

Going to hold out until Friday and do a clear blue digital fx

Thread 8, TTC #1. Change my FW one more time Ovia, I dare you! TMI Warning throughout.
Thread 8, TTC #1. Change my FW one more time Ovia, I dare you! TMI Warning throughout.
Confusedcat1 · 27/01/2016 12:50

I've downloaded ff too, now I'm using three apps
😂😂😂 it's not as user friendly as ovia though.
choc I think it's in antenatal clubs.

Sorry to all who got af.... And impy I may be coming back to you for more info when the time comes!