Christmas is here but it's not the turkey that's getting basted... with symptoms to spot and festive cheer, Prty and the gang are getting BFPS this year!!

[PrtyPsn]

Hi (big wave)
So you clicked on here cos you were looking for me (I'm flattered!) or the title seemed interesting!
I'm aware it doesn't really explain anything but we are bunch of lovely ladies all TTC and going ever so slightly crazy with it! For more info see our original thread here -

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2412386-TTC-anxious-over-early-pregnancy-possible-symptoms?msgid=56357000#56357000

And our most recent thread here -

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2480630-So-its-John-Wayne-vs-Les-Dawson-in-The-Great-British-Pee-Off-and-Prtys-judging-get-ready-to-be-basted-lovelies?pg=1&order=

We are symptoms spotters extraordinaire - you name it we've had it, real and/or imagined
We are here to help, we are all supportive, we laugh, rant, cry, joke, rage, smile, and comfort together. Be you a lurker or poster (established or new) then you are very welcome here. We only have a few rules:

1. No judgement - we all lead different lives and have different standards and that is fine. You wanna get wasted everyday of TWW, that's fine. You wanna abstain completely, that's fine. We need support, not judgement.
2. No feeling stupid - we've all had those months where we definitely think we are pg 110% convinced and then AF turns up, don't feel bad about it, it happens. Also we all have different levels of knowledge so no question is stupid apart from the one you don't ask.
3. On this thread there is no such thing as TMI - we are all adults and we all know how miraculous and amazing... and downright disgusting our bodies can be, it's fine. Share what you want, we will not be fazed.

So that's it, jump in and FX'd for all my lovelies xx

Looks like a line to me pantz!!! Definitely worth a digital or another test tomorrow!!!

I can see it too! Maybe a frer tomorrow?! Should come up strong on that! Congrats Pantz!

Thanks guys! That bleed the other day really threw me. So used to AF arriving that it didn't cross my mind that it could be IB, until I realised it was short lived.

OH wanted me to do another, so here you go...

Congrats pantz hope some of your luck rubs off on me for tomorrow. Still having loads of PMS type symptoms and insomnia but no AF yet

Right guys need your help to get me out of a really low spot. Just feeling really down today, feel like we have tried everything and nothing is working. Really worried now that maybe one of us can't actually have children or something like that. Reading far too many stories of the low chances of over 40's having first children and generally feel like rolling in a ball and sobbing.

Sorry your feeling so low neetie. It's a hard time of year.

Get reading some of the positive stories! How long have you been trying?

Also funny cat or puppy videos really help to get me out of particularly low moments I know it seems silly but a distraction can help.

It's been about 10 months now but seems longer. Not helped by fact sister is pregnant (she already has two teenage sons) and she has always seemed to get what I really want.

I just had a good cry and my two wonderful labs were all over me showering me with kisses.

Yay pantz mega pleased!!!
neetie I've only been trying about 9/10 months, it's really not that long in the grand scheme of things. If you're really concerned then why don't you and OH see the doc together?

Have been once and they said they won't do anything until we have been trying for a year...

Frustrating, and since youve already been then no chance of fibbing and saying it has been a year :/
If medical professionals aren't concerned yet then try and take comfort in that.

still lurking hope that's okay

I can see a line Pantz! Check again with fmu tomorrow!

Sorry to see all the AF's arriving

Neetie are you over 40? I always thought you had to be ttc for 6 months not 12 if you're 40+?

I love dogs neetie think they're great when feeling low. So much love and no talking needed!!

I know in some of the other thread people have mentioned soya isoflavones and low dose aspirin when TTC have you looked at any of these? Sometimes feeling somewhat in control helps too.

Hi Neetie! I think you've had a knock back because of your sister getting pregnant so easily and its really brought it into focus that you havent got there yet! As Shary said Im sure if you are over 35 they are supposed to offer investigation if you have been trying for more than 6 months. I just tried to check the NICE guidelines but cant get them up on my work computer. Anyway, have a look, print out a copy and take it to your GP!

My aunty had my cousin at 43 so I know it is definitely possible. I also know how hard it is - we have been trying 14 months now and I dont think its going to happen ... but you've got to keep trying and also try not to let it take over your life too much. I hope we'll all get there eventually!

Congrats Pantz - definite BFP!! Can you update your stats again please?! No for you now tomorrow ... but Im sure you dont care!! When will be your due date? X

Thanks guys when I went to the docs they said it was a year for over 35 but didn't mention over 40... might be cheeky and go back again soon.
Yes shary am 43 now.

Any idea what the NICE guideline is called just looking on their website now

baggy - congrats - looks like a line to me.
neetie - it's perfectly natural to have moments like that but try to keep in your mind it hasn't been too long, I know it feels like it, but sometimes it can just take a year or even 2 when there's no medical reason for it which is sooooo frustrating but for whatever reason that egg that month doesn't meet the right sperm and it doesn't happen and there's no sinister reason for it its just not meant to be that month, but it's not to say it won't happen next month. I've been ttc for 18 months now and am really struggling too but that's why this forum is good - to get through the highs and lows. I totally get how bad you feel with your sister being pregnant, it's like it is a constant reminder but you will get pregnant too, just keep believing x
pirsy - yes we will all get there eventually

I would definitely get a 2nd opinion neetie. In my experience, no two Drs are the same, and some can be downright insensitive. I too have heard it should be after 6 months if 35+

Pirsy different dates from different apps, but could be very end of August or very start of Sept. Difference of a whole school year! And we've got the fizzy Shloer on the chill for tomorrow. OH wants to quit drinking with me and put the average amount we were spending on alcohol in a savings account.

Stats: 28 ttc#2 since May. Gave up over Oct/Nov because it was too stressful. And here's some brutally honest stats, as it's what worked this month and 1st time for #1: we decided to stop TTC the conventional way and just be mechanical about it. OH was just getting too knackered trying to have that much sex, so we waited until Ovia's predicted fertile window, I made sure I was lubed up, OH would bring himself to 'the brink' then (with some impressive accuracy and timing) enter right at the last moment and stayed 'inside' for a few mins. We did this every other day for about a week.

No it's not romantic, but it really did take the stress and pressure off both of us.

Doctors appt booked for the morning..no time like the present

Pantz your OH sounds lovely to quit drinking with you! I actually think Im going to quit in the new year just to see if it helps a bit. I think men do feel the pressure of TTC - my DH is always pleased when he's managed it!

Neetie its under Fertility something something. I just looked on my phome and I dont think it specifies 6 months (although Im sure I read that somewhere) - but says earlier specialist advice and referral should be offered to women over 36. Maybe try another GP - I have a friend who is a GP and I know he is extremely sympathetic when couples come to see him, even if it hasnt been quite a full year, because he has had some personal experience of TTC misery!

Hi all - just checking in and not sure if I have read everything...

Congrats Pantz

Gutted for you Prty - I skipped loads of posts as I was rooting for you and hoping to speed up to your BFP. It will happy lovely! Plus dead impressed with you not drinking over Xmas -

Neetie I am so sorry you are feeling low. I can only echo what everyone else has said. Speak to you Dr, you never know what they will say and it will make you feel better to at least get professional advice.

I am feeling ok, my mum is doing well which is all I really care about right now if I am honest... But there have been two Facebook baby bombs over Christmas... Both couples married after us, both couples younger, both "so shocked and surprised as its so unexpected"... Even with everything going on with me, even though we haven't been trying, I still fecking hate them! !!!!!

Glad you booked another appointment Neetie. Tell them how much it's stressing you & the impact it is having on your emotional health. Fingers crossed for you

AF due today no sign, POAS-bfn.

Loads of vivid dreams last night about getting bfp. Also tmi but DH commented last night on nipples looking a different colour, darker. I don't think he knows this is a symptom.

Just going to keep testing until AF arrives. Fairly sure I ovulated as saw a fair amount EWCM. Finding the testing daily may help me as desensitised a bit to it now!

Fx'd fee! Darker nips is usually a telling sign. Definitely not an AF symptom! With #1 I was a week late before I got my BFP. Any other symptoms?

Yes fingers crossed fee! You're not out yet. Maybe you ovulated a few days later than you thought?! X

Oooo FXd fee you're not out til she makes an appearance!
On a side note, is it possible to die from AF?! Ridiculous flow this time round, likes she's actually mocking me :(
Also is it bad to eat pate for breakfast because I've declined it all Christmas just in case and I bloody love it!! So now it's safe I can totally gorge on it, right?