Christmas is here but it's not the turkey that's getting basted... with symptoms to spot and festive cheer, Prty and the gang are getting BFPS this year!!

[PrtyPsn]

Hi (big wave)
So you clicked on here cos you were looking for me (I'm flattered!) or the title seemed interesting!
I'm aware it doesn't really explain anything but we are bunch of lovely ladies all TTC and going ever so slightly crazy with it! For more info see our original thread here -

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2412386-TTC-anxious-over-early-pregnancy-possible-symptoms?msgid=56357000#56357000

And our most recent thread here -

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2480630-So-its-John-Wayne-vs-Les-Dawson-in-The-Great-British-Pee-Off-and-Prtys-judging-get-ready-to-be-basted-lovelies?pg=1&order=

We are symptoms spotters extraordinaire - you name it we've had it, real and/or imagined
We are here to help, we are all supportive, we laugh, rant, cry, joke, rage, smile, and comfort together. Be you a lurker or poster (established or new) then you are very welcome here. We only have a few rules:

1. No judgement - we all lead different lives and have different standards and that is fine. You wanna get wasted everyday of TWW, that's fine. You wanna abstain completely, that's fine. We need support, not judgement.
2. No feeling stupid - we've all had those months where we definitely think we are pg 110% convinced and then AF turns up, don't feel bad about it, it happens. Also we all have different levels of knowledge so no question is stupid apart from the one you don't ask.
3. On this thread there is no such thing as TMI - we are all adults and we all know how miraculous and amazing... and downright disgusting our bodies can be, it's fine. Share what you want, we will not be fazed.

So that's it, jump in and FX'd for all my lovelies xx

Ooh keep us updated on the acupuncture, I'm really intrigued by it as have heard so much about it! Oh 8 dpo.. You never know, it maybe your time this time around. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you. When are you POAS?

Ah thank you for your kind words.. I've needed some, I've got myself all stressed out about it all. Think I'll feel better when all the tests are done and can go back for the results and finally get things sorted and plans put in place as how to fix things. Just feeling abit blue today.. I've been surrounded by babies and 1st birthdays all day at work and just feeling like it will never happen x

Thanks glitter - I was going to poas Friday but had a little spotting tonight so looks like game over again. Am going to be gutted with af again.
Sorry you're feeling blue, I am too. Sometimes it seems that no one else in the world struggles to get pregnant and I get really angry/sad all the time. Try not to get stressed lovely - the tests you are having will help the doctors who can then sort everything out for you. I really am excited for you as you're moving on with a plan of action and that bfp is just waiting round the corner for you!

Thanks kitten that's made me feel better. I don't think it helped sitting with all the pregnant ladies waiting for their scans when I was at hospital! I'm starting to worry today as I'm abit of a worrier.. I've started taking this provera for 10 days, 10 days should end next Wednesday. If AF doesn't show straight away we will be at the weekend. What if AF shows up on Saturday.. Will I be able to go anywhere for bloods on the Sunday?

Oh you're not out yet with spotting, your not out until the big fat lady arrives!!

Hi kitten and glitter!! I've not abandoned you!! I've just been really distracted by work the last few days. It is just SO stressful. I can't imagine getting pregnant with all this stress in my life! I've just escaped from work for an hour, to read my book in peace. Was up for 2 hours last night, worrying about work!!
kitten sorry about the spotting, but it's early enough to be possible implantation, and if AF does arrive, you'll have acupuncture to give you renewed hope!
glitter sounds like you've really made some progress! keep us posted. Next Weds doesn't feel too far away. Good luck with the 1ww with that!
Maybe we're all feeling blue with the end of winter. Vitamin D deficient, and suffering S.A.D. Hopefully the arrival of spring soon will cheer us!
Bye for now! X

Sorry guys, I've been so ill with the flu that even opening my eyes was an effort (I'm not even joking - I've been bed bound for 4 days)
Hope everyone is doing well, I'll try and back track the comments x

Have been in a similar boat to prty been so ill the last couple days, feeling a little bit more human today though. Am in TWW but the illness has kept me distracted from it so madness hasn't descended yet, although it doesn't normally until the 2nd week so I could be singing a different tune next week

Am still about also but it's last week of term plus two parents evenings so 12 hr days at work and one tired me. Also in TWW think I have another week to go but have been really good and not looked at any charts at all so no clue when I'm due on just have a rough idea when. I think it should be middle of next week.

Glad things are being looked into for you glitter although I understand why you find it a bit scary.

Any news Kitten? Really hope AF has stayed away for you.

Hope you are feeling better Prty and snowy.

I was expecting to ovulate in about four/five+ days and intended to start DTD tonight accordingly except I have got a really strong positive opk today and haven't DTD for a week. I am so cross and sad that I am effectively out this week - especially since I ignored cm and twinges for the last couple of days because I was so tired. Will DTD tonight but realistically, it is too late. Maybe my acupuncture brought forward ovulation. I don't know.

I'm just about back to normal, thanks fuzzy
Into FW now so DTD as much as possible, due to being so ill I forgot to OPK this month :/ still no joy with getting a suitable doctor appointment... debating temping next month

Morning everyone.
So it's cd2 here . Thanks for asking after me fuzzy. You may be okay if you managed to dtd last night when you'd had the positive opk as that shows you are going to ovulate soon so the timing could have been perfect.
I was gutted about af arriving. Even after all this time I kid myself that it might be different. Just for even more cruel games it was early. Onto cycle 21 or is it 22? I've lost count - know it's nearing the 2 year mark and I was so depressed last year when I hit the one year mark - ha! Little did I know.
Acupuncture appointment on Monday, I was secretly hoping I wouldn't need it. I was excited about it but now am so fed up I've failed again I'm wondering whether it's even worth bothering with. Sorry for the me post, am just wallowing.

Morning all!

prty I really would recommend temping. It is the best indicator of ovulation as far as I'm concerned, and even though I've not got pregnant since I started about 4-5 months ago, I'm so much more aware of my cycles now. For example, I know that I often, but not always, ovulate on CD10. Also, once you have ovulated, you can look back and see what your chances are, and whether you DTD enough in the lead up. And I don't find it stressful at all. It's quite nice to have something concrete to look at, rather than speculating.

I'm a bit frustrated, as it looks like I may have ovulated earlier than usual. I was thinking perhaps I was having a triphasic cycle, with a later temp shift, indicating pregnancy (ahh, I'm always so hopeful!). But now with the later temp shift, although luckily we did DTD, not quite as much as before CD 10. Oh well, it's the dreaded TWW now. I'm going to be positive, assume we did DTD enough, let myself be hopeful, and open to being pregnant. And I've decided I'm going to go to the doctor for tests if I'm not successful this cycle.

How is everyone today? Anyone testing soon?

Oh, BTW, I have discovered Fertility Friend. It's definitely the best website/app I've come across so far for accurately analysing your cycles. It's got a chart gallery, stories from people who've got pregnant, TTC, etc... The actual graphics are a bit outdated, but in terms of usefulness, it's great! Maybe we should all join, and then we can analyse each other's cycles, and chat with each other there?! I'm on there as hippybird of course! X

This is my chart for this cycle...

I struggle to temp Prty as I usually need to get up in the night and my charts aren't that good, but some people find it brilliant for them.

Oh MrsKittenPie ttc is a horrible time. I really hope acupuncture does help but if you don't feel the person you see if very knowledgable, don't forget that you can always try elsewhere. Are you able to see the two year mark as the time that you can get some more medical help and focus on it being positive in that sense, or will that not work?

I ovulated earlier than expected as well hippy which is so annoying. If I at least know the right day, then I can make sure I DTD enough in the build up. We just don't have the energy or inclination to endlessly DTD in the hope and need to rely on OPKs and my previous cycles. I use fertility friend as well but it was really out this month - but I suppose that is the problem with unpredictable cycles!

Kitten so sorry, I totally missed your post! So sorry about arrival of AF. It's so hard when your hopes are crushed by the arrival of that spot on your knickers!

Deffo go to acupuncture! I really think it's helped me a lot! My acupuncturist is really nice, and as I've said before, it's been great having somebody to talk to about TTC. Also, when I first started to see her, my pulse was 'wild' apparently, I was getting ill all the time, and my temps were all over the place. 5 months in, and my pulse has settled down, she completely got rid of the heart palpitations I was having on a daily basis. I'm not nearly I'll/tired as frequently, plus for the last 3 cycles, I've been getting really sore nipples after ovulation meaning my estrogen is much stronger - a good sign. So although I've not got my BFP (yet), I really feel it's helped regulate me and my cycles, and I am hopeful for the next few cycles. Please don't give up hope. Why don't you see the doctor anyway, I'm not sure which tests you've had done, but you could get the ball rolling at that end, as we know that all takes a while, then while you're waiting for that, go to acupuncture. It may or may not help you get a BFP, but it may well help you cope better, feel better...

Hugs! So sorry! Xx

P.s. Fertility Friend has readjusted my ov date back to the 11th - as I adjusted my last two temps as I remembered I took them after going to the Loo! Hopefully that is my true ov date as our BDing was much more frequent in the lead up to then...

Thanks for your kind words hippy and fuzzy. I'm feeling a bit better about going to acupuncture now. I always really struggle after af arrives but I've got to pick myself up.
hippy I've got ff too - it is good - I've not got the paid version though, just the basic free version. It is useful for inputting cycle data though.
Fingers crossed for you both - hope 2ww passes quickly.

I definitely had ovulation pains yesterday so I hope we managed enough to catch the egg. Not overly optimistic as last cycle we DTD five times in my fertile week and still didn't get anywhere but I have my fingers crossed for all of us.

Oooo that sounds positive fuzzy FX'd

Morning, had my smear test today was fine so now have to wait for results.
She did have trouble finding my cervix though and when she finally found it said it was high and tilted back....af due sometime this week

Is that the first time you've been told that neetie?

Yes took her a couple of goes to find it

Hmm wondering if it could be a positive symptom... your cervix can change a fair but in LP so who knows?

mmm well tonight I have bleeding but that could be caused by the irritation of her poking around to find my cervix, so won't get too down just yet.

Hi everyone.
So had my acupuncture today. Was really interesting. She said I was yang deficient meaning I need to change a few things and she can work on it. She said she could see no reason why I can't get pregnant- which is good to know - but makes it more frustrating too. They have a really high success rate though and a 44 year old client has just got pregnant and she was told she wouldn't be able to conceive. Gives me a little hope

Kitten that sounds like a very good acupuncture session, very positive!!

Sorry have been a bit AWOL, between the bug, work and my latest TWW distraction (stalking property pal and day dreaming about houses I can't afford) I have been kept very busy. Turns out property pal stalking is a brilliant way to distract from the TWW