The Bumsnet Bus: It doesn't matter how long your journey, or how many twists and turns you've taken, there can only be one destination: BFP! Wipe your flaps and jump aboard!

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Thought I'd get this party started. Here's the stats: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sHG9PPsOs0yIqgR-o2UXX_fdlCQXdVNLfmPpNOePPjQ/edit

May this bus yield many BFPs! Hoorah!

*sammy I just realised I didn't answer your q-yeah I took the temp at 7:30am rather than 7am so it made it an open circle...

Before and after...

madame - I'm so sorry about your appointment. The other girls have given very sensible advice. I hope your GP can shed some light and help you.

Thanks for the advice nervoussam and fly. I'm currently sat at home having a bit of a sulk. Got another really strong positive OPK tonight and DH is stuck at work still. Chances of DTD tonight are slim to none. So frustrating!

Eeee! Sammy! How exciting is all that? Awesome picture too. Keeping everything crossed for you!

Madame that all sounds utterly shit and frustrating. Hopefully your GP will be more helpful!

Big hellos and hugs to everyone else

sammy PUPO! How exciting :) how odd that you test until you get a bfn then wait then test!

madame so sorry you've had all that stress. How aweful for you. Big hug. X

Sammy! What simply exquisite news! You're PUPO at last! How do you feel? Was it a five-day blast or six? Did they grade it for you? Was it hatching? Praying your dream baby is right there nestling in and building up some mighty HcG levels and that happiness is just around the corner about eight days away

Fly, I believe you ov'd two days later on CD12. I would always put more faith in the positive opk, especially if the temp they choose as the nadir has been followed by an open circle cos it's dodgy and unreliable

Lily, what a heartbreaking sight after those strong bfp's, bless you. I am so, so sorry. Definitely return to the GP. Unfortunately, a lady on here called Sparkly got no positive action from reporting her chemical pregnancies as the clinic refused to acknowledge a bfp unless on one of their hpt sticks (even though she waved hers under their nose). I don't know if that is the protocol everywhere but I agree there is something awry and you need investigations. Good luck

Erm...eh? It seems I missed two pages of posts

Madam, we don't know each other so please excuse me if I seem intrusive, but your post is so sad. I am sorry your husband has battled cancer and now you are both battling bureaucracy. You read about this kind of mindless cruelty in the papers and wonder how couples get through it, but through it you must go. May I ask, are finances the reason you are mostly distraught, ie you feel you absolutely cannot fund IVF yourselves? Have you researched the cost of taking your husbands sperm to Europe where the success rates are much, much better than the UK?

I am thinking of Serum in Greece who are the pioneers of some of the more radical IVF treatments we see working today. I know of many success stories coming from couples who transfer their sperm from UK clinics to Serum for half the cost of a UK cycle. I'm just not sure how much fight you and your DH have in you to tackle a hospital over this issue. Can you beg, borrow or steal the funds to go and finance a cycle yourselves?

Soda, how long have you been tracking your cycles? Once you have pinpointed ovulation for a couple of cycles you can stop wasting time having sex too soon in your cycle and save your energy for the real fertile window. Keep talking to your DH and kissing and complimenting and stuff. They need that shit in order to not feel like abused spaff machines.

I am so so excited for you Sammy! Fx for a BFP in time for Christmas :)

So sorry to hear of your struggles Madame and of your likely chemical Lily

Thoughtfulbird thank you for your words, I have been concerned doctors wouldn't pay any attention to chemical pregnancies.

But

Ran out of the brand of tests I've been using, and my FRER hadn't arrived yet so did another internet cheapie I had in the cupboard. I don't think I've ever had a line this dark on any test, so I think it was maybe the brand? I do feel like AF is about to arrive, but I also have nausea, huge spots which I never get, and boobs so sore I've got a bra in bed. AF due today at the latest, and I'm 15dpo. This BFP thing is such a rollercoaster!

thoughtfulbird - thank you. Abused staff machine I've been tracking using OPKs for last 7 months and have always got positives on day 14/15 but this month it wasn't until day 18 which I think is where the problem was - we were knackered by then! First month of cbfm this month which didn't help by saying I was 'high fertility' from day 9! It's my first month of temping and it's not going very well for me (I wake up in the night / can't do it at same time etc) and my chart looks like a mountain range.

DH came home too late last night so no DTD for us but we made up and he woke me up this morning to properly make up and hopefully deposit his swimmers far enough up there to catch the egg

sammy how are you feeling today? Are you going to work? Do you have to take it easy or anything or just carry on as normal?

Happy Friday everyone! Xx

Ooh cross posts lily - looks like a very good line to me! Huge fingers crossed for you xx

Soda - I'm ok thanks, a bit sore from being poked about but nothing major. I'm not at work as dh is having a sedative for a tooth op so I'm looking after him. They said to take it easy yesterday but that was all.

Lily - what a roller coaster this is! That test looks good though :)

Birdie - I'm ok thanks. It's a 5 day blast, they said it was likely to hatch and implant today. They didn't mention the grade, but back in July they said they were all good. Test day is sooo far away, but in reality I'll know in about 8 days as af will arrive by then if she's going to.

Thank you to everyone else for the luck and well wishes to. Xx

Sammy it's so exciting to here what should be happening, I'd definitely take it easy for a couple of days.

My FRER never arrived, so nipped out and saw boots do a digital test. I know they are never very sensitive (says 25mu on the leaflet) but decided why not. So, only about 3 hours after last peeing, and having had water and herbal tea, this popped out after a really short time.

I'm going to let myself believe it this time, last month I didn't get a positive on anything other than very sensitive tests. I'm going to hang about a bit to see how you all get on if that's ok, but put me down as a big fat BFP

Oh Lily congratulations!!!! Xx

Lily!!! I'm over the moon for you! I hardly know you but your rollercoaster journey has been intriguing (for all the wrong reasons, I know). Many congratulations...and what was the brand name of those inconclusive bastard sticks? They should be broadcast around Mumsnet as being unfit for purpose

Soda, stick with the tempting as it's the only method of proving ovulation has occurred. When you have a few cycles of temps under your belt the Rocky patterns will make sense to both you and FF. Same with the CBFM. Don't give up. The machine takes more than one cycle to make sense of two hormones: LH & oestrogen, and that's why it gives you so many highs the first month. Successive cycles won't require as many sticks - or sex!

There is never a need for sex every day....it will ruin your intimate life in the long-run.

Sammy, I'm so bastard excited! I won't be able to breathe on the day you test in eight days Please don't test at 7dp5dt - I've seen too many false negatives xx

Congratulations Lily! x

Sammy I'm ridiculously excited for you!!! Keeping everything tightly crossed for your xmas bfp.

Lily I would say you are upduffed my lovely! Congratulations.

Great advice from birdie. It's great that you come back on here to provide your support.

Hope all our grads are well. Haven't been on the FB group for a while but will pop over later to catch up.

Has anyone seen nomio about? Have been thinking of her.

Congratulations lily!!

Thanks all. The tests were ones from ebay, I'll take a picture of the package when I get home, really wouldn't recommend them. They had a pink lid and were very cheap.

I was wondering about Nomino too, nor seen her in ages, hope everything is ok.

Oh wow lily your roller coaster of a week has ended on a high! Congratulations!!!!

lily what a roller coaster you have been on but looks good at the moment, congratulations xx

Just back from my second fertility appointment , I have been given one months supply of Clomid due to my progesterone level indicating i may not be ovulating properly, dh sample was better than the last one but is borderline, i need to take the clomid in December as i am into this cycle already, dh has to do another sample and if the i don't get pregnant with the clomid and his SA is still the same we will then be referred for IVF, I actually feel that we are getting somewhere!!

Thanks dizzyM!

Rainy that sounds very positive - hooray for a plan of action! Xx

DizzyM are you in the tww now? Hope you're doing ok

Rainy Glad you have moved forward in you journey with what sounds like a fab plan of action.

Madame you are ttc #1? Sorry I've lost your post when I come on mn since it changed sometimes it skips days of posts on my phone. Why won't the NHS fund you a try for IVF. I thought everyone without children was entitled to that regardless of whether they've frozen sperm or not. Sorry if I'm wrong & it's because you are ttc#2. Either way I wouldn't give up without a fight. I know you shouldn't have to fight after what you've both been through. Take it as high as you can. Hugs

It must be so lovely seeing that word lily - congrats!

Sounds like a positive step forwards for you rainy At least there is now a plan for you.

Hope everyone has a nice weekend. I'm going to relax and have fun and maybe DTD with DH because we actually WANT to

Thanks everyone, just hope it works,

Sammy how are you feeling? x

Soda sounds like you are going to have a great weekend, happy dtd!!!