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Thought I'd get this party started. Here's the stats: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sHG9PPsOs0yIqgR-o2UXX_fdlCQXdVNLfmPpNOePPjQ/edit

May this bus yield many BFPs! Hoorah!

Found a few other OPK and got a faint line, but may try doing the other ones at various times of day, I do have 20 of them.
DH and I had a bit of a disagreement last night, I ended up sleeping on the sofa half the night until I got too cold. Our pup has been refusing to poop outside for the last few days, probably because he is cold. DH took him out and when he came back, dumped the dog on the bed beside me and said there's your dog. I jokingly said that it is his dog too, and suddenly he started saying he wasn't, that I had found the breed, I had found the breeder, I had found the money, he was definitely my dog that he was being saddled with. I was totally gobsmacked, and he refused to discuss it further.
I asked how he was feeling this morning and he said guilty, but said he needed to work through his feelings before he could discuss them with me, so something fun to go home too

sammy a week off to be distracted while you wait to hear from the clinic sounds perfect. Hope you can relax.

fly I agree with night don't give up hope just yet, temps and sticks and the like aren't gospel, and from reading all the experiences of the ladies on here, you can never fully know what your body is doing!!

lily sorry about the argument, I know that tensions can be flying high when we're all dealing with what we are and then end up arguing about things that aren't anything to do with how we're feeling. Do you think him saying that he needs to "work through his feelings" means that its actually nothing to do with the puppy? Hopefully a calm talk later between the two of you will help work it through. Not nice having to get through the day to wait for it though! I hate not being able to sort out arguments there and then. xxx

Fly fingers crossed it's just a blip, I can't use BBT as I wake up all the time and move about so much, maybe you were just cold?

Sammy I hope you can manage to relax, my heart goes out to you going through this.

nervous DH has pretty severe depression and anxiety issues, so I think that has played a big part in it. I don't think it is about the puppy, they seem to get on and he shows genuine affection towards him most of the time. DH is a firm believer in taking his time to get the words right before discussion any disagreement, drives me mad but I can see his point, no point making things worse just because you phrase something wrong.

Sorry to hear that lily I hope you have a better night tonight x

night and others-thank you for your words of support!! I know we rely heavily on our 'science kit' of baby making paraphanalia maybe a bit too much, but it's all us crazies have!! Haha

I started spotting this afternoon with more cramping so I'm pretty sure AF will be with me by morning...

lily your DH sounds a lot like mine. He's an introvert, needs to think things through in his head over and over before he can realise how he feels and how he wants to communicate it. Whereas I am the complete opposite so our arguments end up being very one sided and very me dominated! I've found that personality profiling stuff we've done through work has really helped me to understand how he thinks and how his brain works-I can't say it has helped our arguments but I sort of understand why he behaves the way he does!

Fly sorry to hear the spotting/cramping has started. You're right about the science kit, it's a careful balance between knowing what your body is doing and driving yourself mad!

Lily hope things go okay with DH this evening. Hopefully having a bit of time to think and regroup will mean you get things sorted easily. Any more luck with the OPKs?

I've still not got a second line. I also feel like AF is coming which is weird and a bit disheartening. I'd say I'd given up trying to work out what my body is doing but that would be a lie. I wish I could just relax and let what happens happen. Too obsessed with my science kits!

magpie thank you :-) I'm quite happy with my temps this cycle at least, seems like a sensible pattern at least! Just really short... what CD are you? Are you doing your opks several times a day?

I'm CD16, I've done 2 OPKs today, will do another one soon. I did 3 yesterday and 4 a day for a few days before that. This is why I don't normally use OPKs!
I've been looking back at my old charts and the two clomid cycles I ovulated on I got temp rises on CD17 on the first one and CD19 the second one. I'm still clinging on to a bit of hope of ovulation.

Your chart does look good this cycle, I'm wondering if you could've ovulated a day or two earlier depending on what that missing temp was?

magpie that missing temp was a really high spike! It was a Saturday and I slept in so took the temp at like 11am rather than 7am... It's quite possible it was early ovulation for sure. I was just hoping otherwise You're still early in your cycle by the sounds of it then! Keep at it, keep DTD and keep positive! Do you do cm monitoring too?

Fly that would make sense for your chart then! I do monitor cm but not really had much of anything. It's been so long since I ovulated (that I was aware of anyway) that I can't quite remember what my cm pattern was like. I even tried doing ferning before to detect ovulation, I might be a bit obsessive!

magpie what is ferning?!?

AF has arrived. Silver lining is this cycle was nice and short (26 days) so I've not had to wait too long for this next cycle after the last where DH was away so much.

DizzyN sorry I missed your message before-we could still be cycle buddies again! Seems my cycles are being equally irregular... How are you doing??

Cycle 3 ttc#1 BFP 5th December (argh! But that'll give me AF over my work Xmas party so I can have some drinks if it doesn't work!)

Sperm Meets Egg Plan this month. Might even invest in some pre-seed. Pulling out all the stops this cycle! Determined to get my BFP before my birthday in December!!

Heading off to my scan in a bit, not sure what to expect or if it will shed any light on the situation but we'll see.

Also, to add to the fun, found a lump on my dog's side last night so we're off to the vet with him this afternoon. I know it's sad, but he's totally our baby (in the absence of a human version) so I'm upset at what it might be.

Argh, can I please go back to bed and wake up tomorrow please?!

nervoussam I hope your poor dog is ok. We had one that got benign tumours all over the place, and never bothered her at all, so fingers crossed it is something similar. I completely understand about him being your baby, I am exactly the same with ours, and my old dog was even worse.

DH and I had a great talk last night, he explained that he feels trapped in his life because he feels so awful a lot of the time, and he was lashing out at one of the ties he has. He said it helps when I explain in detail how things are going to work, so for example how many days of daycare we could afford once I'm back at work so he can work etc. It did help that as soon as I got in the door he offered to help me get changed .

In other news, so glad we did dtd last night, as I got a strong positive opk this morning, on the old style test. Told DH so we will dtd tonight and tomorrow too, although I have a hospital appointment this afternoon so may try and nip home before that. I've had no cm, but been using preseed so hopefully that will help.

Fly I'd definitely try preseed, if nothing else it makes things a bit easier

Woohoo...EWCM has arrived

Been trying for baby 3 for 8 months+. AF due in 3 days and feeling stressed! Was so convinced last month was it, my boobs were so tender, but no, and here we are again, not really any symptoms this time.

memomma fingers crossed AF stays away, symptom spotting is a nightmare but no idea how to stop doing it

Hiya flyby, sorry for af. I'm fine thanks. Cd28. For some reason FF has given me broken crosshairs now on cd20 which I completely disagree with. The temps afterwards are only marginally higher and around that time all my temps are open circles so there's no way it can be right. Plus my temp the last 3 days has been 36.20 and post ov I'm usually at least 36.60. I think it's probably an anovulatory cycle although I have ovulated this late before so there might still be a chance. Gave up shagging last Friday though

nervous how was your scan? Any news? Hope your poor pooch is ok x

Welcome mea :). This is a good place to hang out... I think everyone here has been a crazy symptom spotter at one time or another!

We heard from the clinic today, they are recommending another natural cycle in the new year, providing there is no cyst at the beginning but with more monitoring. I'm not sure how I can be monitored more as was being scanned eod anyway... Are they really going to ask me to go EVERY day?!
Dh and I have also decided to pay for a scan around positive opk time this month just so we have a bit more idea of what my lining is like. I feel like knowledge is power and all that!

I hope everyone's doing ok, I am lurking, just trying to chill out a bit, and posting on here every day doesn't help with that! Xx

Fly ferning is a method of predicting ovulation with saliva. You can get a kit for it, it involves looking at your saliva through a little microscope. The idea is when it looks like 'ferns' you're fertile. I think that was how it worked anyway, it's been a while!

Nervous How was your scan? I hope your dog is doing okay. They're part of the family, it's totally normal to worry. Our old dog had a lump on her side for years, she developed a few as she got older. I can't remember what they were now but they were harmless. I hope your dog's is the same.

Lily Yay for EWCM and positive OPKs! Very exciting! Go make the most of it

Meamomma welcome! It's impossible not to symptom spot isn't it?

DizzyN I love FF but it can be really frustrating at times. If it's right about ovulation would your chances be good this cycle? If so, I hope it's right!

Sammy some chill out time is always good! It sounds like your clinic are really proactive, and you're right knowledge is power especially when TTC!

I'm a bit worried today, as I said I've been feeling like AF is coming and now I've had some spotting. It's only CD17. What the hell does my uterus think it's doing?

Welcome mea. I hope AF stays away from you.

Sorry for AF fly.

Sammy hope you've had a great week off. It's great your clinic have been in touch with a plan of action. Have they said what the close monitoring involves? A private scan seems like such a good idea. Wishing you all the luck in the world.

Magpie that's baffling! Can you contact your consultant for advice?

Hi everyone, not sure what to say about the scan as I'm none the wiser at the moment. She couldn't tell me anything there and then, she took lots of pictures and measurements and said they'd be sent off to be analysed alongside my bloods. Should be able to find out early next week though as it only takes a couple of days apparently. I worried myself by analysing her facial expressions and movements though (was that a worried look? Did she just gawk at something?!). After all that I felt too scared to ask anymore questions once sh'd told me it would be next week for the results. I hate more waiting though! My patience is totally shot, if I think back a year ago, I'd already stopped taking the pill months ago and was starting to worry that nothing was happening, we were supposedly going to start trying "proper" New Year ish, and we're nearly there again now and I still don't have an effing cycle. The sonographer seemed shocked at how long the process has taken. Sorry for the rant, I just want it sorted and I'm dreading the fact that I might just get referred to the specialist which will be more waiting still!!!

Fred the dog was fine though! Hurrah! The vets were brilliant and took samples and did tests for us there and then (wish our doctors were as quick at diagnostics!) and it is just fatty tissue. It was such a relief. He's such a sensitive thing, so pleased he's ok.

Hope everyone has a good Friday and are looking forward to the weekend xxxx

Sorry for the "me" post, I'll get back to group thinking now!

sammy, you sounds much better (as much as you can tell from test typing!) that sounds good about the cycle in the new year and more scans! At least you can say they are being thorough! Keep lurking and most as often or as little as you feel comfortable. We're not going anywhere quickly!

magpie blimey, ferning really is on another level! Not sure I'll be doing that (although come back to me once I finally have a cycle and I may be!) Sounds like your uterus needs to be put on the naughty step, any movements today?

lily hurray for EWCM!

So glad Fred is okay! sorry you've got more waiting for results. I hope you manage to have a fun weekend of distractions!

I've not had anymore bleeding since the spot of blood yesterday. Very strange. Temps are still low this morning.

Hope everyone has a lovely Friday, almost the weekend!

Nervous so glad your dog is ok. My wee lad is in getting the snip today, but as he has an undescended testicle, it's costing over £400!!!!! I can imagine how you are feeling about the wait, so annoying having to spend so long wondering.

Magpie I bought one of those microscope things, but struggled to see anything, may look it out again.

We had friends call round unexpectedly last night, DH was really tired so I managed to get them out again around 9pm so that we could dtd. Going to try and do it again tonight then it's the 2ww for me. Slightly bad timing as we have a lovely bottle of gin in the house