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TTC for 10 months and the rest. Ten plussers welcome. Thread 2.

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lucieloos · 07/10/2015 11:21

We have been so busy chatting I've started a new thread. Welcome all 10+ ladies. Hope we all have some luck on this thread.

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loopylou1984 · 21/01/2016 12:06

Trixie forgive me, what is tomorrow's appointment?
Does DH need to be there?
Hope he's better soon, Xx

Trixietwenty16 · 21/01/2016 12:23

Thanks ladies, he is ok. Really scared me this morning though. I'm off too with a nasty cough so at least I can look after him. Sammy, it's our NHS consultation. Just heard back from the hospital. They offered us 3rd Feb but DH can't take that morning off work so will be 10th Feb. Not too long to wait Smile

BorisIsBack · 21/01/2016 12:26

trixie I went to our nhs consultation without DH and It was fine... But it doesn't sound like too long a wait. Hope your DH feels better soon. Proper flu is aweful.

bananafish81 · 21/01/2016 15:36

lucie glad you’re home, and hoping those little embies of yours are fighters

star if they’ve recommended ICSI, do ICSI. It overcomes any male factor issues (which will be why they’ve recommended it) to bring the fertilisation rates in line with IVF. As lucie says, it will all depend on the sample on the day. They can vary so much, so it just depends what, er, comes out on the day. We just did what the embryologists recommended

sammy hurrah for temp rise!

trixie so sorry to hear about your DH, hope he’s on the mend soon! And glad you don’t have to wait too long for the next available appt.

AFM, we’re going to blast! Day 3 update: we have 11 good quality embryos, 2 OK ones, and 3 laggards that I imagine will conk out fairly soon. But 11+2 is beyond even my wildest dreams - I didn’t think I’d even get more than a couple of eggs with my AMH

I felt absolutely fine after EC - ovaries felt a bit battered and bruised for the rest of the day, but the following day I felt right as rain. My incredible enormo-bloat had actually disappeared overnight- 24h after EC I had abs again. Bodies are weird

Interestingly, the embryos from the frozen eggs are kicking the arse of the embryos from the fresh eggs. The 3 good go-ers from the frosties are 9-cell, where the 8 good go-ers from the fresh lot are 6-8 cell. Maybe it’s like veggies, when you freeze em you lock in the goodness?!!!

We decided not to have the PGS testing this time - my consultant said he didn’t generally recommend it for a first cycle in someone under 35, and in his experience when he has done CGH, the chromosomally normal ones have turned out to be the morphologically good quality ones. That’s not always the case of course, but we felt at £2800 a pop for testing, and if the consultant and the lab all recommended against it, we’d not pursue it this time.

Trixie we would definitely only transfer one blast (whenever we may actually get to ET!!). The likelihood of pregnancy (counterintuitively) only goes up by 1-2% when you transfer two blasts, but the risk of twins goes to 1 in 2. Given the enormous morbidities associated with multiples, as much as part of me would love a two for one special, in reality, we’re doing this because we want to have a health baby. I know two couples who very sadly were pregnant with twins, but left the hospital with only one baby Sad And of the many others (only a few of whom were IVF, I think) I know with twins, almost all had to spend several weeks in the NICU. Plus my consultant is adamant that with my own medical conditions (spinal injury, epilepsy, hyperbole joints - meaning my pelvis could essentially fall apart even in a singleton pregnancy) we need to avoid multiples at all costs. All that said, we did agree that whilst we’d ideally transfer a single blast, as we didn’t expect to get to blast, that we’d transfer 2 x day 3 embryos, as the risk of twins was so much smaller

Big big question mark is whether we’ll get a fresh transfer or not

Lining scan tomorrow - desperately hoping the progynova and progesterone will have worked their magic, and I’ll be on for ET Sat morning

If we don’t get the green light, then anything that makes it to blast will go straight into the freezer, and we’ll start work on building my lining up for a FET as soon as I get my period in 2 weeks time

Thinking thick!!!!!!

lucieloos · 21/01/2016 15:52

I am leaning more towards transferring one at a time as well although we may be tempted by 2 on the NHS just because everything is a bit of a faff with them. If we manage to get 2 that is. My friend had twins via IVF and they have some medical issues now and it sounds immensely difficult even doing simple things with them. I was told that transferring 2 increases success rates by 10-15% but I think overall the success rates are higher for one at a time. I found this interesting article with cumulative success rates. Obviously it won't be the same for everyone but thought it was an interesting guide.

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loopylou1984 · 21/01/2016 17:51

Phew Trixie, glad you don't have to wait long, and very glad your DH is ok too. Get well soon Mr Trixie!

Banana!!! Wow! That's an amazing result, you must be so pleased. Fx for your lining, will be looking out for updates.

Interesting about the transferring 1/2 talk. I have only been offered one due to my age, but always thought that given the chance I'd do two. Now I'm not so sure. Think I'll have to do a bit of research if we get to that point.

I wish I had an update, but just plodding along. Xx

Trixietwenty16 · 21/01/2016 18:12

Thanks Boris and Banana, it's so weird seeing DH so poorly, we've been together for over 6 years and he's not had a day off sick in that whole time.
I did think about going along myself Boris but I'm sure when I initially booked the appointment the receptionist said we both had to attend. If we had a long wait for a new appointment then I would have seen if I could go along myself but we are lucky we don't have to wait long.
To be honest, having the knowledge from Star that the waiting list here is only a month (hopefully it doesn't change!) takes the pressure off, just keen to see what they say and get booked in.

Great news about your embryos Banana, I've read about frozen embryos being better because they have to survive the freezing/thawing process.
Transferring 1 at a time definitely sounds like the best decision for you. We transferred 1 at a time for our fresh and FET cycles last year and had said that we would do 2 next to increase our chances. I can't remember now what odds our clinic gave us about increasing overall success/chance of twins. I'm not sure whether the NHS would allow us to go for 2 though. Very sad to hear about the couples you know with twins, very sobering. Since our last transfer we've learnt that my NK cell levels are high so we will be having immune treatment next time, we've not had the conversation since re how many to transfer but given that we should have a better chance of success with immune treatment I guess we would stick with 1 at a time. I'm sure I've read that with IVF there is a higher chance of an embryo splitting and the thought of triplets (or quads!) is very scary.

Good luck for your scan tomorrow Banana.

Trixietwenty16 · 21/01/2016 18:26

Thanks Sammy, I spent so long faffing about with my last post it crossed with yours.

lucieloos · 22/01/2016 08:14

Eeekkk I've had my day 3 result already!! We have 1x7 cell and 1x8 cell embryos so pretty much exactly where they need to be today! I'm still not getting my hopes up though as I hate how this thing leads you into a false sense of security but I am pleased for today!! Just praying they keep growing and dividing until Sunday now.

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bananafish81 · 22/01/2016 08:21

Woop!! This is the best news lucie - apparently you very much do still have incredible egg quality. Go go go little embryos!! Grin

lucieloos · 22/01/2016 08:22

Thanks Banana feeling chuffed just hoping they make it to Sunday. God it's so nerve wracking!!

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Trixietwenty16 · 22/01/2016 08:34

Just popped in to wish you luck with your day 3 results Lucie and you've already got them, so pleased for you!

bananafish81 · 22/01/2016 08:47

Totally!! No day 4 update as they just leave them in there chilling out (and hopefully compacting nicely!) so I'm desperate to know what they're doing (although also not as I like being in my bubble of a good day 3 update!)

Although as today is D-day for my lining I have enough scary news on my plate so maybe it's just as well I don't have to watch the the phone like a bomb detonator today!

Another hot date with dildocam...

lucieloos · 22/01/2016 08:55

Thanks trixie and wishing you lots and lots of luck today banana. Will be checking for your update.

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loopylou1984 · 22/01/2016 09:37

Woohoo Lucie, great news! Congratulations :)

Banana - wishing you so much luck today! What time is your scan? Xx

star1980 · 22/01/2016 09:42

Amazing Lucie!! I have my fingers tightly crossed but feeling quietly optimistic for 2 blasts on Sunday! Crikey, I'm living through my first ivf through you and banana - it's nervewracking, can only imagine what it's like actually going through it but Im getting a good idea in preparation for June!

Banana, good luck for your scan today. I really hope you get to do a fresh transfer into nice comfy lining Smile

Trixie, so sorry your dp is so sick. Glad he's on the mend but it's a bummer you had to miss the appointment. So many things are sent to try us! I guess 10 Feb isn't too long to wait, but you must just want to get moving. Also, I'm keen for you to get going so I can get some insight into how things work at King's! My consultant definitely said it was just a month's wait and that was just 2 weeks ago so it can't have changed much in that time.

Any update Sammy? Are you waiting for your next period to move forwards? You must have a good idea of when that will be now after your temp rise?

No update from me. I've stopped temping but CM suggests I'm moving into my fertile period. It's hard not to track a little bit! No expectations though with our lazy sperm Smile

Hope everyone else all ok x

BorisIsBack · 22/01/2016 10:25

lucie wow such great news, praying thoes cells to develop well.

Another random question with reprofit do you just tell them you are coming? They seem really chilled out about when we choose to come and havent confirmed its ok to start next cycle. Both DH and I need to book time off work.
banana crossing everything for you. Good luck for dildo cam. X

lucieloos · 22/01/2016 10:37

Thanks Star and Boris. It is indeed a very nerve wracking process made worse if you only have a couple of embryos. I expect you will have a lot more and then it's not so bad although still a rollercoaster the first time.

Boris, yes with own egg at reprofit you can start anytime. So if you want to start next cycle just tell them that and then you email them again to let them know when af has arrived. All pretty straight forward really and you will be out there before you know it! Brno is a nice little town.

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MPP81 · 22/01/2016 10:38

Hi all!

Apologies for the absence! I did post earlier explaining, and said I was going for a read through but it doesn't appear to have posted! Cant believe how much news theres been. I wrote lots of notes as I read through so I knew who said what, but I'll try to stick to the most recent updates from everyone. Anyways, here goes...

Banana, congrats on all the embryos! That's totally fab! Thinking of you and hoping dildocam gives you the news you want to hear, but as others have said, if you can't transfer at least you have lots of embryos safe!

Boris, I saw that you said you might have to wait a little due to having to be home, but I'm not sure if I missed a post after that? Have you decided to go ahead and get DP to freeze a sample or wait? Either way, I hope it won't be too long for you!

Sammy, great that you ov'd but understand your disappointment at missing the few days dtd beforehand. Hoping you had a couple of super swimmers that were still lurking at the right time!

Star, I understand you being sad at the baby shower news. I hope you're OK. Thinking of you!

Itsme sorry to hear of blocked tubes. Hopefully it's not a long wait for the op. Flowers

Lucie, wow you've been through the mill! I'm very sorry you didn't get as many eggs as you hoped, but that's fab news about the day 3 results! Fingers firmly crossed for you, and I hope you enjoy nhs appointment goes well.

Trixie, I hope your DP is feeling better and I'm very glad you don't have to wait long for your new appointment. That must be a relief!

Thank you to everyone for your comments about my last post. We are indeed trying to see it as prep time for after the wedding, and that helps a lot! I am currently trying to lose a bit of weight (not massive, but a bit overweight) and we're both taking our supplements religiously. I phoned our nhs hospital yesterday to check our referral had been received and was told it had, and that the wait has become a bit shorter so we can expect to hear from them by the end of the summer, which would be perfect timing for after the wedding. So all in all, not feeling too bad here at the moment :)

MPP81 · 22/01/2016 10:42

Haha! Lots of typos in my last post! Waiting for someone to arrive to view our house as it's up for sale and wanted to post before they get here in case it vanished so didn't go back and check! :)

BorisIsBack · 22/01/2016 15:04

mmp so you are ttc, planning a wedding and selling your house? Respect.

lucie thanks as always. DH and I are both used to having shed loads of data and information in our lives, we find it odd that something this significant is arranged in such a chilled out manner...

BorisIsBack · 22/01/2016 15:07

mmp oh and yes the ladies here reassured me that DH can come out with me before egg collection, supply his stuff in a pot the go home before egg collection happens so Im back on tract to have ivf mid feb

lucieloos · 22/01/2016 15:16

Boris, yes they are very chilled out there and the clinic itself is lovely! So excited for you to get started. Have you decided where to stay?

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bananafish81 · 22/01/2016 16:08

Lining has thickened up beautifully and we are booked in for transfer tomorrow morning!! Went from 7.2mm the day before trigger, to 5.5mm on EC (when it had already started compacting) to a stonking 8.5mm today!!

Thank you progynova and progesterone!

lucieloos · 22/01/2016 16:24

That is brilliant news banana so pleased for you! Can't believe you will be pupo tomorrow eeekk very exciting!!

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