So it's John Wayne vs Les Dawson in The Great British Pee Off and Prty's judging... get ready to be basted, lovelies!

[PrtyPsn]

Hi (big wave)
So you clicked on here cos you were looking for me (I'm flattered!) or the title seemed interesting!
I'm aware it doesn't really explain anything but we are bunch of lovely ladies all TTC and going ever so slightly crazy with it! For more info see our original thread here -

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2412386-TTC-anxious-over-early-pregnancy-possible-symptoms?msgid=56357000#56357000

And our most recent thread here -

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2458534-Prtys-Gang-and-The-Festival-of-Foof-Fun-when-they-not-being-cray-cray?pg=1&order=

We are symptoms spotters extraordinaire - you name it we've had it, real and/or imagined confused
We are here to help, we are all supportive, we laugh, rant, cry, joke, rage, smile, and comfort together. Be you a lurker or poster (established or new) then you are very welcome here. We only have a few rules:

1. No judgement - we all lead different lives and have different standards and that is fine. You wanna get wasted everyday of TWW, that's fine. You wanna abstain completely, that's fine. We need support, not judgement.
2. No feeling stupid - we've all had those months where we definitely think we are pg 110% convinced and then AF turns up, don't feel bad about it, it happens. Also we all have different levels of knowledge so no question is stupid apart from the one you don't ask.
3. On this thread there is no such thing as TMI - we are all adults and we all know how miraculous and amazing... and downright disgusting our bodies can be, it's fine. Share what you want, we will not be fazed.

So that's it, jump in and FX'd for all my lovelies xx

Hi beanz, good to have you back!
That combination of af and those pregnancy announcements must have been horrendous, it's just the worst isn't it. But on to this cycle and good news about the flashing smiley
I think it might be worth finding out re the tests for your partner, I know it's a bit nerve wracking but they could come back fine.
Yes it might be worth telling your mum, it helps to talk. And you've got this lovely thread too
I think af is due this weekend but bfn today with a frer so am definitely out. Just need to get onto the next cycle now. I'm going to try temping this month

Hi ladies, just stoping by the give temping my vote too! I'm obsessing about ttc but (now I'm used to it) temping doesn't bother me too much because once you've taken it in the morning you're done for the day (unlike OPKs that I'm peeing on loads a few times a day). If temp drops in the days past ovulation you know AF is due so you don't get the disappointment of the BFN. For those who are worried about broken sleep I read on fertility friend that for some women accurate bbt depends on taking it at the same time each day rather than after a set amount of hours sleep

Beanz, my DH had the same issue and had an op when he was quite young, he has no fertility issues at all and had kids very quickly.

Oh no! Fertility friend now says I ovulated on Wednesday, not Monday. DTD Wednesday night but not Thursday- I still should be covered shouldn't I? We DTD everyday 4 days prior to that too. The app says this cycle will be 60 days! WTF!

Thanks Shary - good to know about the same time for tempting. I am going to give myself another cycle and then see. I really thought I would be PG by Xmas or at least the end of the year... If I am not I think the disappointment will spur me on to start taking more action! But for now I am going to think positive.

I think the days before OV are the most important (clearly this hasn't worked for me yet!) so I am sure you are covered!

Hi again Funny. I know how you feel - one of my close friends has just had her third and her page is awash with photos Also just found out my sister in law's sister is expecting. This was actually handled rather insensitively I thought, (she knows I am TTC) so had a wobble last night and now dreading seeing them at a party next week.

I guess the only thing I can take or say is that the fact that so many people seem to be having babies all over the place must be a good sign! It will happen for us too xxx

Hi, thanks for the warm welcome back! Also MummyBex1985 it's good to hear your DH had the same issue and it didn't affect his fertility. FX it's the same for us. Just collected the sample bottle for him to use, grim! I'm using clear blue opks and got a second flashing smiley face today which apparently means I might ovulate soon. So DTD as often as possible over the next few days! I never even dreamed it would be this difficult to get pregnant. MrsFlowers - good point about so many people having babies. Will try to be positive!! Good luck with the temping, I've not tried that yet, seemed too complicated but maybe I should try?!

Afternoon, well all weird here. You may remember last cycle had a solid smiley while DH was away in China just after af finished. Well thought it was not right used another OPK a few days later and got flashy then solid smiley so all ok.
Well fast forward to this month and a couple of days after af is all done and bam solid smiley again , so am wondering am I ovulating twice once really early so we keep missing it...very odd

Biggest problem now is DH is in a bad mood so might not get to DTD tonight :(

Is or possible to O twice in one cycle? Perhaps it's another hormone surge related to AF that it's picking up neetie
Crisis, lovelies!! The pink tinge did not turn into AF! The next day I got a brown tinge then nothing! Feel like AF is imminent (headache, bloated, pains, wind) but nothing yet!! What to do next??

Neetie I didn't think it was possible to ovulate twice but a quick Google search indicates it might not be that clear cut! If I were you I'd switch to the cheaper OPKs next cycle & use one each day to try and work out what's going on. Just remember that all OPKs are designed to detect the LH surge that usually occurs before ovulation, they don't confirm ovulation itself, do you might want yo try temping too.

Any update Prty?! CD46 here, 4DPO

shary AF did eventually show up properly this morning!!

The witch is here for me too - so cycle buddies this time prty?

Ooo yeah kitten I'm could ring this as day 2 of AF due to spotting, normally 31 day cycle, O around CD18, using OPK this cycle

Well didn't have to worry about OH being in the mood. DTD was achieved last night and this morning. Not sure what is going on this month with my body will just have to try to DTD every other day lol

Another reason I thought it could be ovulation apart from the test was very gooey CM all day but just that day and boobs hurt for a few hours.

neetie from what I've read online, sore boobs usually arrive in the days after OV - but I've noticed I usually get three days of sore boobs followed by OV type pain and sure enough when AF arrives, it's always 2 weeks after to the day!

It's worth tracking it as a symptom to see if it's a pattern

Hello,
Hope everyone had a lovely weekend! I was away at a wedding in Ireland. Had a lovely time but feeling tired today. Think I'm 6dpo today. This first week has gone quite quickly so hopefully the next one will too. Have been convinced that this is going to be the month, just had a real feeling about it, but has now changed to pessimism and not so hopeful anymore!

FXd for you pirsy
Had to run the gauntlet of 'don't you want to have children?' today at an impromptu family gathering. First time it's been said since my chemical, was a bit harder to take than normal (sigh)

Oh PrtyPsn - that's tough. I'm sorry you had to go through that. It's difficult to stay controlled and know what to say in those situations I think. Do any of your family know?

FX it''s your month Pirsy1!

Hi ladies. Sorry as I am about to ignore everyone and rant... full on meltdown here...

One of my best friends (and one of the only people who knows we are TTC, who I frequently talk to and moan at) has just text me to say...she is pregnant. Totally unexpected, not even trying. Her second child. Got the text just now at work and actually had to run to the toilets as could feel the tears coming.

I have replied and obviously I am happy for her. As well as being utterly devastated and completely jealous . I am just so tired of feeling disappointed. The majority of my friends are now having or planning number two and I feel so left behind.

Today is supposedly the first day of my fertile window and I just can't be bothered. Feel about as sexy as a dishcloth and just want to curl up

I'm sorry Mrs I'm dreading this happening to me as I'm sure others are too. We know how you must feel right now so please vent to us xxx thinks bf sending you that text knowing you're ttc and that you're in work is pretty shitty but don't want to say it outloud in case I sound like a bitch

Oh no MrsFlowers82. It's completely understandable that you feel shocked, jealous, a whole load of emotions! I know how you feel, not quite the same but a close friend who had been ttc for just 3 months announced she is pregnant and it caused a massive meltdown for me. I feel like everyone but me is making progress, either pregnant or having second. It's so hard as you have to be happy for them but actually ttc is so all consuming and you just want it to be you instead which lears to jealousy. I had to distance myself for a while just to allow myself time to deal with it. Just look after yourself and allow yourself to feel emotional. You could give yourself tonight off and dtd tomorrow which will still be in your fertile period. Xx

flowers no two ways, my lovely, that totally fucking blows! Also agree with shary because I'm a massive bitch - it was really inconsiderate of her to send that text especially then. Big hugs, sweetie, we are all here xx
beanz no, with the exception of one close friend nobody knows we are TTC so they don't know about the chemical either. I know I can't really blame them because they dont know but it's just a horrible situation to be in, people asks sensitive questions in an insensitive way without considering what may or may not be happening for that person

Flowers, Funny and Prty - sorry about the pregnancy announcements and questions. Flowers I totally agree with the others that your friend was very insensitive to announce her pregnancy like that to you. I know you are happy for her but it's ok to feel sad for yourself too.

I haven't had to contend with too many pregnancy questions - was sort of expecting it this weekend at the wedding but everyone is very tactful which is a blessing!

Had a horrible day at work so have had a big slice of cake to cheer myself up.

Thanks ladies. Inclined to agree she didn't handle it too well, she knows everything as we share a lot.. Thats two announcements and one birth in less than four days... Not ashamed to admit that I am currently in bed with a Gu chocolate pudding which the hubs bought in an attempt to cheer me up. Think he is quite shocked by how hard this one has hit me. I guess it's because she is one of the people I'm closest to, no avoiding seeing and talking about it like some of the others... Giving up on today!

Prty sorry you have had a shitty day too. slides over the other Gu pudding before my OH can get his hands on it...