TCOYF - follow on chart spotters thread

[MrsMcJnr]

Geek - how embarrassed am I? talk about teaching your Granny to suck eggs! so sorry. Does that mean though that you can solve my problem? I am trying to move my software to another computer without losing my past cycles, how can I move them?

Temp dropped by .3 this morning

Hi Ladies,

Still lots of waiting going on.

MrsMc, your cycle will probably take a while to settle anyway, but don't let it stop you trying.

AF has just about finished now after what felt like a long 8 days.
No more from DH but keep your fingers crossed that he is in the mood next weekend in time for Ov.

I will come back for a chart spot later. I need a cuppa and a rest (lazy whatsit!)

MrsMC my mum had a m/c at 3 months. She then desperately tried to lose the weight. That weight turned out to be me Fingers crossed your cycle kick starts itself.

Mum03 and what about today?! Sorry hon, it?s GroundHog day again, 35.8!

Cityangel ? I?d give anything at the mo to be in the 2ww, I?m knackered! I?ll have a look at your chart and check out your coverline. I know mine?s too high based on previous pre-ov temps, that said, these ones are defo pre ov temps Interesting story about your Mum, how did that happen?! Do you think you were a twin?

I know 3cats just impatient! Good luck for next week

MrsMC She had a dnc so no just got pg v quickly again first try. Even though it had taken 2 years to get pg then m/c. So its possible.
Sorry about my insensitive 2ww complaint should have thought more

Hi Cityangel ? stories like that do give me hope! certainly more hope than my temps do! I woke up at 8.15 (2 hours late) temp was 36.3 so 36.1 really so still under my coveline, I really don?t think I?ve OVd yet though, have to say. I did a test this morning and it was negative so though that was sad in itself, it was good to know that when I get a positive (and I will!!) it will be real and not a nasty hormone trick! You weren?t insensitive at all it?s all a matter of perspective ? the grass is always greener and all that jazz!

Going for a spot?..

Hi MrsMcJnr- thinking about you this am doing your test - I can only imagine the bizarre feelings - sort of wanting it to be negative - very confusing - but sending you {{{{hugs}}}}

Thanks Seaside, in the end I actually felt ok doing it, I think I would have felt much worse if it was still showing positive if you know what I mean. In some ways, it's "closure" .

IKWYM - onwards and upwards

Mum03 - I'm not sure what my LP is? I'm proberbly going to now make myself sound really stupid but how do you work the LP out?

Hi Gracie - not stupid at all - i s sucha massive learning curve on MN - sometimes pepole jke that we chould have an official qualification after all the information we have to learn - a diploma in TTC or something!!!

LP - Luteal Phase = second part of your menstrual cycle, after ovulation. The time between ovulation and mentruation. It is called luteal phase because the corpus luteum governs hormone production at this time.

So basically your LP length = the number of days from ov to af - ideally 14 (on a perfect 28 day cycle) but anything above 10 is good!

sorry - forgot to preview - hope you could understand my typos!!

Seaside - Thankyou very much. Without you girls on here I wouldn't have a clue about anything.

So as this is my first month using temps and OPK's I won't be able to work out my exact LP until after I have ovulated. I have just been assuming that my ovulation is around day 16 and if I am right (proberbly not) I guess my LP could be 14 days long.

So, is it common to not ovulate at all?

HI Gracie- yes - you will not be able really to work out your LP until you have charted one complete cycle - or if you have kept a record of past cycle lengths and poss ov dates you could look at those for a guide. But generally your LP starts the day after you ov - so the day of your first temp rise is the first day of your LP.

I think it is not uncommon for women to have an anovulatory cycle (no ovulation at all) every now and again.

HTH

Finally over the cover line woohoo. Bloody clocks changing is a pain though!
how is everyone else.

I have started my monthly wasted online search of symptom spotting

Evening ladies Seaside?s right Gracie, it?s a whole new education!

I?ve been for a chart spot:

Sunshinedays sorry about AF hon

Cityangel ? good to see you over your coverline I know what you mean about the clocks, my software is ignoring today and yesterday?s temps (slept in ) and instead told me ?You are in the post-ovulatory infertile phase of your cycle. While TCOYF is unable to identify ovulation and post-ovulatory infertility in this cycle using the data provided, based upon an analysis of your own cycle history, it is likely that you are now infertile. TCOYF will continue to monitor your fertility signs for indications that ovulation has occurred and will change this analysis, if required? Great! seems it doesn?t have a clue what is going on with me either. DH and I BDed this morning and software told me I was infertile but that today was the best day?!

What?s been happening with you Mum03?

Looking great Ready

You too Minxi

MrsMC what a difficult time. Sometimes I hate the software because it can be a painful reminder of not being where we want to be. Sometimes the smallest change seems to shift the whole graph. However I think the benefits far outweigh not having the knowledge we've built up.

You're a strong bunny and I hope you and dh are doing ok? I really hope your cycle settles down.

MrsMc - {{{hugs}}} rotten software being so negative, but let us hope the software has got it wrong and all your effort is not in vain.

Ready - looking good for halfway through your 2ww.

cityangel - did you adjust your chart for different wakeup time?

I am now in the wonderful 2ww, I am going to relax and chill out through it.

No the chart adjusts itself supposedly fortunately its at a less key part of the cycle than it could have been but we'll see

How's life with you?

Ok... I have to confess I have lost track of who is a Chart Spotter. I know that the temp buddies posted charts on the Charts Only Thread - but some of them don't come on this thread... I really don't want to miss anyone out - anyone know who is here, who is on both, and who is just there???

Cityangel - Great to see you over the coverline, WOO! How are you feeling?

MrsMc - I hope you are doing ok? I cannot imagine how frustrating it must be for you - I know nothing about m/c, is there a vast difference person to person of what happens with the cycle?

Mum03 - How are you feeling with the not temping? Is it chilling you right out? Or are you wondering what your temp was?

3cats - How's it going? Any movement in the 3cats household?

Everyone else - hope all is well.

5 DPO waiting is agonising but I am cross with myself because I always build mine and dh's hopes up into nothing

I am using this Tesco's thermometer that's crap. It seems to radically change temps every 15 minutes!

how is life with Ready and everyone?

Thanks Cityangel you are right, I would rather have the knowledge. I went on to the Ovusoft chart gallery to see what other people?s post MC charts looked like and there were lots with anovulatory cycles and weird things going on. It makes sense that the later you are into pregnancy the more screwed up your body becomes . Hope the wait isn?t too slow for you and hope is a great thing you know!

Good for you Mum03 have lots of rest. I suppose the software can only go on the info it has on me and as I?m normally so regular, I guess it?s confused .

Hi Ready ? I?m on all of them! There does seem to be a lot of difference from woman to woman as to how you deal with a MC. There are some great, positive threads on here about ladies who get pregnant again a few weeks after a MC, clearly not going to be the case with me

Cityangel - It's only natural to get your hopes up - you wouldn't be human if you didn't even secretly hope that this is your month! So don't be cross with yourself - it's just important to have a way of coping with any disappointment that comes your way. Although I sincerely hope that it's only excitement for you this month!!
I am not feeling quite so confident, as I sometimes do, this month (still hoping though ) as we didn't manage to get down to it as much pre-ov as we should have, but hey-ho. I am 7 dpo and had a bit of a dull ache for a while this morning, so I fully expect to be in Cycle 8 this time next week.

MrsMc - I was so hoping that you would be one of the ones that fell straight away, but the important thing is to get your body ready for when the times does come. Try not to put so much pressure on yourself. I know that things are difficult with time-scales for family things and moving etc, but try to think further into the future - how wonderful it will be to have x amount of bambinos running around - not just focussing on the short term goals. I have no idea if that helps at all?? I'm not the most eloquent, and I know that my ott positivity is sometimes a thorn in people's sides - but I always have to look for the positives in life. And when a wonderful person such as yourself goes through what you have been through I have to believe that it will work out for you.

Ok... enough of my ramble. I haven't had lunch yet, this clock business has set me all of kilter!!

Thanks Ready only eating my lunch now too! I'm "working" from home today as I had a GP appointment this morning and thought it made more sense to come home to work rather than waste time going into town. My GP agreed to screen my blood for blood clotting issues and I have another appointment next week to see the results. If they are anything other than normal she is going to send me to a specialist. She'd had a MC herself and agreed that if I can get the answer to this now then I should as why go through needless heartache if I don't have to. She did say that we shouldn't be TTC at the moment and that I was probably infertile anyway due to the MC but that she'd advise not TTC again until these tests are fully concluded. Call me naughty but I'm going to ignore that. If I get pregnant again soon and the tests show something they'll just have to treat me the way they'll have to if I get pg after a positive diagnosis if that makes any sense!

Do you really think I am putting pressue on myself? I thought I was pretty calm about it! I am fed up with the fact I haven't OVd but as there is nothing that I can do about it, what's the point in letting it stress me out? you are very eloquent and your positivity never gets me down, I am like that too, as you know

I really do hope it's a lucky cycle for you, you must have hope hon, it's the only thing that really gets us through!

I don't think it is naughty at all, tbh, I wouldn't want to stop ttc when they will have to treat you in the same way pregnant or not, that makes perfect sense to me - Keep going
Sorry if I spoke out of turn, I just got the impression over the last week or so, that the family party and moving to Spain is weighing on your mind with regards to ttc. And willing your temp to rise is putting pressure on yourself a bit That said, considering all that you have been through, you are very calm - but calm people can still be feeling the pressure - you are just adept at dealing with it!
Those of us control freaks certainly seem calm on the face of it - but underneath it, we just keep piling on the pressure! I don't know about you, but if I didn't put a little bit of pressure on myself I might not recognise myself

Thanks Ready I'm glad you don't think I'm being irresponsible ignoring her advice. Chances are that there isn't much hope this cycle anyway and if things are back to normal next cycle, that'll give me time to get test results in etc.

You didn't speak out of turn at all, I've just been trying really hard to not let things wind me up and I thought I was doing well!