Temperatures rising, patience's getting low, according to our sources, the Summer Bus is the place to go (July/Aug Hybrid bus)

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All aboard for hopefully a short ride! For those who have already hopped of the July bus and need the August journey and for those testing late July should they want to join.

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CD3 for me too and I had wine at lunch (work celebration)...

on the subject of giving up alcohol, I actually think it makes more of a difference for DP/DH to cut down. I read recently that alcohol/smoking/drugs can alter sperm and increase mutations which can affect chances of conceiving/mc. since sperm is made all the time though, it only matters around the fertile window. I'm lucky in that neither me or DP really drink anymore so I didn't have to nag (hate that word) DP to stop/cut down since he probably only has a drink a couple of times a month anyway

before anyone panics though, I think it's only really heavy drinking etc that matters

Princes, I have to fly frequently because of my job and see very young babies onboard all the time, was on a 12 hour flight just last week and there was a 9 week old baby on board accompanying it's parents on honeymoon!

Emily boo, I'm sorry af arrived.

Iris & Auf I think it's just that some people do fall pregnant so easily and it's therefore expected that it's the same for everyone and because no-one talks about any issues/ difficulties the myth that it's easy peasy is perpetuated. What's that you say? Vicious circle? Yip. I personally feel a bit embarrassed/ bit of a failure that it's not been straightforward - not easy things to discuss with friends.

Emu I've been through phases of drinking nothing at all and phases of drinking whenever I fancied and it hasn't made a blind bit of difference but then again I'm not a big drinker - my idea of drinking of whenever I fancy means 1 glass or max 2 glasses per week. When af arrives I go mad and might have two glasses in one night, I know, wild.

I too heard that it's more important for men to not drink excessively so as to not affect sperm quality. My fiancé likes a drink so there have been some....erm, spirited debates about this subject!

I'm not a big drinker but I've totally stopped (mainly because if I have one I'll have loads) saying that I had quite a few at a wedding this wknd.

I'm pod7 and I feel like I'm about to get my period. Really disconcerting. I'm desperately trying not to symptom spot though.

My dh has given up drinking this time. We were both very drunk when dd2 was conceived and I know it had nothing to do with her T18 but he says he wants to do it 'right' this time.

He's also taken to sleeping without pants on so he can keep his testicles cooler. I'm not sure it'll make a difference but it helps him feel like he's doing something.

So I've just got the darkest line I've ever had on an IC (although it's still not darker than the control line tbh) and I have a mild pain in my left side (also had this month before last) and I've had ewcm for a few days....and OH is on the blooming night shift arrrrrgh

How annoying. Night shifts are the worst. I've been waking my dh up while he's sleeping during the day for a quick one while dd1 is napping.

Time for dtd tmrw morning?

unfortunately, at the moment the baby is waking up at 4am every day Kitty!

Oh nooooo banana how frustrating!! Nightmare!! Can you jump on him as soon as he comes home?
I've been there so know how you feel - my fiancé and I travel a lot for work so there's been a lot of careful planning ahead, 2am/3am/4am alarm clocks set so we can do the business before one of us jets off. I also may or may not have fabricated reasons not to travel during my fertile period.....thank God for video-conferencing! Don't despair though, there's always a chance that you'll ovulate tomorrow or even the day after - chin up, all is not lost!

Oh boo. That really is rubbish.

A nice wake up call for dh when the baby is napping I don't know what I'm saying really, dd1 didn't 'do' proper naps until 18mo or so

More video-conferencing is better for the company carbon footprint and CSR targets...

Marmite/Glitter (what a bizarre combination lol) you're right, the man needs to watch his boozing too! Since I've been tee-total he has automatically been drinking less as there's no point him getting drunk without me! He does appreciate the need to cut down but it's difficult when all his mates are big drinkers.

As for me I love wine but wine doesn't love me! I can't drink too much at once as it makes me feel so rough, but I do miss the glass of wine with a meal, g&t on a summers' day etc. At least we get to drink as a consolation when we get our AF!

Wow glitter that is dedication! OH is trying to finish work early so fingers crossed! Just have to stay awake...zzzz

I'm afraid I'm still enjoying some wine . I've told myself if no bfp by my 36th birthday at the end of Aug, I'll ditch it.

Banana I feel your night shift related pain. I work nights and it always seems to coincide with a good time for TTC. For example this past weekend would have been good for getting some DTD underway but was wrecked by my three night shifts ???? sigh. Added to DHs working away several nights a month lately and my irregular cycle it's little wonder we aren't getting too far with a BFP!

Just catching up on the wine chat...

Wow some dedicated shift workers on here! I'm very grumpy on nights and banish DH and DS from the house for as much time as possible during the day! ????

Hi all! Kind of dropped off the July bus, because life happens :) But I'm back on and ready to go! Heading off on our honeymoon next Saturday so fingers crossed! Also might try SMEP if we can.

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Testing on: 15 August (ish...haven't had a proper cycle since coming off the pill in Jan)

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Evening all
5 DPO and apart from mild pelvic cramps, nothing. Have it in my head that I'll get AF this time next week and just have to make sure I'm cool about it. Am annoyed with self for getting so obsessed about the whole thing

Why so despondent London? You wouldn't expect symptoms yet anyway would you? Fingers crossed for you...it's not over for this month yet

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banana fair play. To be honest I have no idea, although yes does seem early. Am disappointed with self for being so impatient! Thanks for the fx though. I need to chill - this is cycle one and need to get it into my head that it's likely to be a longer term process.

On another note re drinking - my work social circles it's almost impossible not to be teetotal without being noticed. Boss called me unsociable last night but I'm the one with a fresh head (nursed one wine) while they all did shots!

Have a good day all

london I'm with you on te patience this cycle. 6dpo but expecting af imminently due to short lp. Temp drop today so don't think the progesterone worked. Boo. Wish it was next week already.

London - you don't get symptoms until a couple of days after implantation (6-12 DPO) because implantation triggers the production of HCG and until there's HCG there's nothing to cause symptoms.

My AF/post CP bleed seems weirdly short. Started on Monday, heavy and painful and then medium flow Tuesday, light flow Wednesday, spotting overnight. Usually my periods are 6-8 days!

I hope you told your boss to stick it London, undociable indeed what a twonk
Strange about af, Carrot. Too heavy to be implantation bleeding?
Auf, I'm sorry to be so ignorant but why is having a short lp such an issue? Does it not give the egg chance to implant or something?

Also ladies how long would ovulation pain last? I've had it since yesterday afternoon. Starting to wonder if its af cramps and my positive opk yesterday was a pre-af surge

Hi ladies

Great to get your thoughts on alcohol. I don't think I drink lots but definitely find it hard to give up totally. I usually do probably the worse thing and manage to cut it out pre ovulation but then get stressed waiting for af and hit the wine!

Am hoping this bus will keep me distracted. I usually feel quite positive around this time but still feeling flat!

That is strange about your bleed Carrot - definitely negative on test??

Banana my ovulation pains are usually off and on for a day. Fingers crossed it's not af

Hi everyone

Just catching up! Welcome to all the newbies!

Birchy - Yes, it's our vodka in my bottle. Smirnoff as well. None of this Tesco value rubbish.... Yes - I have now had the op. All went well, which is great news! I feel a bit shattered and confused by it all (was expecting the worst, but they found NOTHING, which the surgeon was really surprised about given my symptoms). I'm obviously trying to focus on the positive (i.e. that there's nothing obviously wrong) rather than worry about what the hell these unexplained symptoms mean! I'm now nervously looking forward to TTC again. How are you doing? We're almost TTC buddies in that we've been trying about the same time and are about the same age .

Princess - It's exciting that there are a few of us testing in the same week. I've bought some ICs in preparation as I've told myself I need to stop using the 'normal' expensive ones! As for travelling with a baby, I definitely think it will be fine. It's a fairly short flight, so I wouldn't worry too much.

Banana - my ovulation pain varies from nothing at all, to lasting a day or two. From your earlier post - that doesn't sound too late to ovulate, especially as you have fairly long cycles. I've had times where I ovulate on CD22 of a 28 day cycle!

Kitty - I'm sorry you're struggling to enjoy TTC. If it's any help, a lot of us are in the same boat. I know I am! It can be incredibly stressful at times, especially as you have no control over the outcome or timelines. I really hope things improve for you soon - it can't be easy trying to get in the mood AND have a little one AND have OH working night shifts.

MsGlitter - I completely understand how difficult TTC can be logistically! I'm often away with work for 4/5 days and then DH often works 24 hour shifts in the week and 50 hours over the weekend (without leaving). This means sometimes we can have more than a week without actually seeing each other! Most of our annual leave has been strategically booked, and I once even stayed in the hotel opposite where he works just so he could pop out at 2am for a quickie! Absolutely ridiculous and unfortunately unsuccessful. The things we do to try and get a baby!

LL2015 - that's far too early for anything to be happening. Welcome to the world of symptom spotting - it turns you into a crazy madwoman ! The number of times I've googled things at 2am (sore boobs, weight gain, sickness, dizziness, needing the loo lots, loads of CM, no CM, irritability, excessive hunger, lack of hunger etc etc etc) and have convinced myself I am DEFINITELY pregnant! That said - FX you're a lucky one and you do end up preggo! As for the drinking at work, I know how hard it is. In my job there are loads of client events (drinking), networking events (drinking) and team/office/firm events (drinking). It really stressed me out in my first few months of trying and I avoided all drinking and any occasions where I might be expected to drink. 8 months on and I'm a little more relaxed and will have the odd drink or two in the 2WW if there's a work thing/wedding etc. I still wouldn't choose to drink unless I sort of 'had to'. Obviously if I ever get a BFP I wouldn't touch a drop and would never leave the house or do or touch anything or go near anyone and would just stay cocooned in bed all day protecting my bump