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Immune /natural killer cell treatment when ttc or pregnant (aka the 16th pred thread!)

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sunnyday01 · 05/06/2015 19:22

This is a thread for those diagnosed with high or very high natural killer cells and trying to concieve or are pregnant and taking steroids/intralipids etc

Newcomers very welcome

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Snoopysimaginaryfriend · 15/06/2015 20:08

Ah that makes me feel better hula. I seem to have a 14 day luteal phase and if the longer follicular phase is actually better then I'll put up with it. I saw on another thread a long follicular phase wasn't great because the egg was 'older' but I trust the people on this thread.

Rosa27 · 15/06/2015 20:13

Seeking .. Just to say thinking of you. Really hope you're doing ok all considered and you're wrapped up warm with creature comforts. X

Tryingno1 · 15/06/2015 21:05

Drtcc-im glad they let you home. And I'm hoping they drop so u don't have to have surgery. How scary for u. Well done for being brave. Are u off work? Like rosa said its good there's a chance u can keep ur tubes and have everything crossed u can.

Seeking am thinking of u

Hope story! Friend who took 4 yrs to
Concieve with 3 miscarriages is now preg again with her second without trying and no miscarriages and No drugs! Just like that. So 2 kids when for a long 4 years she thought no Kids.
Xxx

Seekingmiracles · 16/06/2015 08:26

Ahhhh just posted a massive message and lost it!!Angry
This is still an epic post... Sorry!!

Sorry I was AWOL yesterday. Decided to just have a day to myself to get my head straight and deal with the erpc. It went as well as can be expected, nurses were generally lovely. Came home, slept, ate (a lot), watched TV. Now feeling better that I'm past that horrible phase and ca start to think about the future.

Drttc- I'm so sorry you've had bad news. I really thought you were going to be ok. Why do we always get kicked when we're down. I hope you don't have to have surgery and it passes by itself. Big hugs hun. Rant on here as much as you want!

Rosa - nice to see youSmile I know you're going to worry all the way through but also try to enjoy being pregnant. It's such a special time.

I've been reading. 'It starts with an egg' - very interesting and informative. Needless to say I've ordered DHEA and ubiquitous CoQ10 - both supposedly brilliant for improving egg quality. I'm willing to throw anything at this now!

Trying - hope all goes well this morning and you have a top quality environment to go in! Fingers crossed the tee passes quickly and you get your longed for happy ending.

Snoopy - hope you're ok. I have a friend who is only a few days ahead of wher I would have been if this pregnancy worked out. Will be hard seeing her progress but she's had her own battle getting here so I'm happy for her.

Sunny - glad the brown has stopped. Enjoy the rest of your holiday.

Hula2 · 16/06/2015 08:58

Seeking - glad all went smoothly and good plan with the supplements.

Trying - love the story, keep them coming. Good luck today !

Drttc - hope you re feeling ok today.

Bfn for me this morning (god i loathe early testing). Its now 2 years of ttc no 2 and 18mns since i last got preg. Starting to wonder if its ever going to happen. Maybe my eggs are too old and crap and i should just give up Sad . Sorry for the down post.

Tryingno1 · 16/06/2015 09:41

Morning girls

Seeking so glad it went ok yest and ur getting some tlc.

Drtcc how u holding up? Is it bloods again tmrw?

I'm sorry hula. It's so crap when u see that bfn. Doesn't matter how long it's been. But ur starting SO now and I have everything crossed that this works for u. If u didn't have a chance Mr s would have told u. I really hope it happens soon for u...

Having my brekkie then off for transfer. I haven't been preg in a year now and I'm worried my body has forgotten how to do it?! I really hope it was just the sperm stopping it and my uterus doesn't reject the little embie. DH has day off today too and I'm on orders to sit on my backside. Fingers crossed xx

Drttc · 16/06/2015 10:07

Thanks so much for the support everyone. Finally had a big cry last night as I accepted that I'm actually quite scared of everything now & what it means for the future :( Feel better at the moment but that's a flimsy feeling. I'd really like to fast forward through all this bit!

Good luck today, Trying!!! X

Drttc · 16/06/2015 10:15

Whoops I missed a whole page of posting!

Trying, I reckon your uterus is ember friendly! And yes, bloods tomorrow morning to determine next step.

Hula- trying is right, you're about to start SO & then you can up the chances of getting to that good egg!

Thanks again for keeping me in your thoughts everyone.

Seeking, it's a crap road we're down atm... But it's obvious we're fighters & we've earned making it to the end of this thing. We're going to get there, I know it.

Seekingmiracles · 16/06/2015 10:21

I definitely think we sometimes manage on auto pilot Drttc, sometimes a big cry can really help. Try not to think the worst, I know that's hard right now but don't assume the worst lovely. Sending you lots of love and positivity xx

Good luck Trying! So exciting!! Xx

Tryingno1 · 16/06/2015 10:37

Aw drtcc. I thought u sounded so brave and survival mechanism was in overdrive. It's good to let it out and it is scary. But they wouldn't have let u home if there was even a slight risk of anything scary happening. U will be ok.

On route will, will update once embie on board!

Tryingno1 · 16/06/2015 12:03

Hey guys got an embie on board! There are def 3 being put in freezer now and potentially another one tmrw but they are going to see how that does. So only one of them misbehaved! They seemed quite postive so I suppose I have to be too! DH getting his blood results but I refuse to know as I don't want any tears I'll deal with it after a BFP or a bfn. I really really Hope this works. It feels quite surreal. Thanks for all ur support x

Tryingno1 · 16/06/2015 12:10

I'm panicking about my stupud lining! I really hope it's behaving. Eek! And I hope this cocktail of drugs doesn't upset the embryo and make it not like my uterus!

Seekingmiracles · 16/06/2015 12:21

I'm sure if they were concerned they wouldn't have put the little one back in. Now just try to relax and let little embie get cosy! Smile

Drttc · 16/06/2015 15:13

Congrats, Trying! They wouldn't do the transfer unless they were confident!

Tryingno1 · 16/06/2015 15:43

I know! It was on the lower end of being optimal but I was told u can still get preg with it and the oestrogen would help thicken it. Hopefully it's improving as we speak. I have no idea why it's on the lower end of normal. Just my silly body! Got acupuncture later but my usual lady on holiday so it's a stand in but I've been told she's good!
Really pleased I have at least 3 blasts frozen if this doesn't work at least I have some More goes with no injections etc.

Tryingno1 · 16/06/2015 17:03

DH froze his sperm today but didn't tell me as I didn't want to know. There's still the most ridiculous number floating around. I really hope this works otherwise we r screwed. She said there was enough for 1 more cucle today so on my bday (great!) we are going to leave another one! What a drama

Rosa27 · 16/06/2015 17:53

Trying - great you're PUPO.. :) I'm not sure I understand the impact of what's going on with your DH sperm but good news you have more embies frozen:) hope everything else sorts out and you have ongoing good news :)
Drttc- glad you're letting some emotions out. At the time you feel out of control but I know from too much experience it's the best way to actually regain control and start to feel better. Hang in there you have a great positive attitude that will get you there.
Seeking - so relieved for you all went smoothly and now the only way is up again. I know you might still have emotional blips but as you know that's all part of the recovery process.
Hula- I have felt exactly as you do and possibly will again. But as everyone says you're now giving yourself the best possible chance of conceiving with SO and apparently summer is a more successful time too - hope so for everyone x

Tryingno1 · 16/06/2015 17:59

Thanks rosa. It basically means we can't ever get preg again naturally.

His blood tests show testiular failure which explains why no pregnancy for a year and why his count is non existent. They only found enough sperm in his sample for my eggs (should be millions) And same again today when he gave a sample to freeze.
We have to freeze as much sperm as we can incase this cycle doesn't work. But even then the frozen sperm ones can get damage in a defrost.
Either way it's devastating news. I just feel like I have so much riding on this working now.

Forget the miscarriages, with no sperm no bfp. I'm so glad I have 3 embies in freezer I just have to pray one of these works out.

Like I needed another ferility issue to deal with.

I know I should be happy I have a great blasto on board but I feel like another complication after another as if the world is saying just give it up now. "U have no chance. U miscarry and ur dH has stopped making sperm"

Sorry for being a downer
X

Tryingno1 · 16/06/2015 18:45

Right I've pulled myself together! This is going to work out somehow. I'll just have to make it!

Seekingmiracles · 16/06/2015 19:16

That's the spirit Trying!you have every chance of this being your happy ending! Don't think of being anything other than that right now! You need to put all your energy into staying relaxed and postive.
I know it's a massive shock but as you say, you have 3 frozen envies waiting to go if this cycle doesn't work out (but it will!) hugs to you and DH. How is he with the news? X

Hula2 · 16/06/2015 19:22

Trying - sorry you ve had more bad news. It s just so unfair. But thank goodness you did the ivf when you did and with a blast on board and three more in the frezzer you ve got to have a good chance. Do they know why it s happened ? Is it irreversible ? This must be very hard for you both but good you are staying positive, sending the stickiest vibes for that little embie of yours.

Rosa27 · 16/06/2015 19:28

Stick with the positivity if you can Trying .. You really have had do much to deal with BUT you're young and COULD still have 4- maybe more - kids :) x

Tryingno1 · 16/06/2015 19:57

Haha yes true rosa! Imagine 4 kids I can only dream!
No it's not reversible it's just one of those things. Like women who get premature ovarian failure. I'm just so glad it discovered now and not when he had zero sperm so we have had some embies made and also some soerm to freeze. Some men just have none. Must think of the postive

Thanks girls I know this way beyond the realm of TTC on pred!!! Really appreciate ur support x

Dh is ok actually. He just wants a kid and then we can have a contraception free life!

Drtcc how r u?
Hula how r u feeling after ur bfn now? Hope ur feeling postuve for SO

Tryingno1 · 16/06/2015 20:16

Seeking how r u doing? Sorry I thought ur message was from drtcc.

Hula2 · 16/06/2015 20:45

Gosh Trying that s scary how fast it came on with your dh, i guess at least if you can get a good amount of sperm frozen now then you ve got a reasonable back up plan.

I m feeling ok, think its prob a bit of PMS and i hate those 4 days waiting for af when you know you re out, wish i didn t have to test early. Just wonder if i m going to have taken all these drugs for nothing. Also hesistant to put too much on the SO working since my body likes to do the opposite to what it s supposed. But i guess if its meant to be then it will be .......and i ve got to give it my best shot for DS, he s always seeking out other kids company and is so sweet with little ones. I ll be fine once i m on next cycle and i booked my SO scan today so its all set up.

When do you test ?

Seeking and Drttc hope you re both doing ok and Dr keeping fingers crossed you bloods are going in the right direction tomorrow.