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Candle smugglers of the world unite! The Berries have loaded up the charabanc and have Barry on repeat. Destination BFP (via the pouch of Douglas)

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happylass · 30/04/2015 06:38

The small print:

The Berries have strict entrance criteria: TTC #1 for 12 months+, over 30, NO instadiffers, must have a special pimping pot and absolutely no mention of baby dust/dancing. Not that we're fussy Grin

Current passengers

Happylass, 37, TTC since Aug 2012. 2 failed ICSIs. Hopefully FET early May with only frostie. Long awaited NHS appt in June
Beaky 35, ttc coming up 3 yrs, 2x failed iui 1x long protocol ivf cancelled due to poor response. On the pill awaiting short protocol IVF in may
Minx, 34, both tubes blocked, 1 buried ovary, IVF info evening June, IVF "booking in" appointment in July
Nolly, 33, TTC 2.7 years, mc Dec 2014. awaiting ivf August 2015 while dh is off on a jolly.
Wild 40 - TTC for three years. Embies on ice and planning FET with immune treatment in June.
HampshireBlues 36 TTC 3.5 years, unexplained. Cycle 1 chemical pregnancy, cycle 2 abandoned due to cyst, cycle 3 failed. Plan thrombotic profile, scratch and short protocol.
Lumen, 35, ttc since Nov 2011, unexplained, two IVF cycles in 2014, both bfns, waiting for lap&dye and results of numerous bloods, aiming for one last IVF cycle in the summer.
Tigerdog, 34 ttc since Jan 2013. Unexplained and all test results good. Currently in the middle of long protocol IVF, 13 eggs collected and awaiting news for next steps.
Gillster, 41, TTC since Feb 2012. Had IVF in Feb 14 and had 6 one cell embies frozen due to polyp. 2 x 2 day embies finally put back 14 months later on 16th April, BFP 28th April
Smidge, 39 this month, TTC since Jan 2013. Unexplained. IVF#1 Short protocol July '14 BFN, IVF#2 Nov'14 and IVF#3 Feb '15 both Long protocol BFNs. High NK cells immune treatment. 2 frosties due to be put back in natural FET in May or June.
Kuma - 40. TTC 2.5 years. Low AMH high FSH - DH antisperm ABs. Failed IVF June 14 and March 15. Looking to change clinic and try another natural cycle in June 2015.
Lucieloos, 35, TTC 18 months, low AMH & sperm motility. 1st ICSI in Czech Republic in April 2015. Awaiting results.
Barkingtreefrog, 35, ttc since Dec 2011. Clomid bfp summer 2013, mc @ 7 weeks. IUI bfp summer 2014, mc @ 7 weeks. Diagnosed with factor v leiden thrombophilia (but
not thought to be the cause of the mc's as they were too early). Failed IUI January 2015, failed IVF March 2015. No further NHS help. Going private for nk cells testing and a scratch before putting the frosties back, hopefully this summer.
Rain, 33 ttc since March 2012. unexplained. mystery bfp oct 13, MMC Nov 13. NHS IVF starting in June
Spare planning FET with remaining frosties shortly
Pont 1st IVF in Czech Republic in July.

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sparechange · 23/06/2015 11:23

Lucie, I was on cetrotide from day 3 of stims I think...

WildflowerMarmalade · 23/06/2015 12:11

Huge props to your DH Barking. That is impressive.

I think I started Cetrotide from day 7 or 8 Lucie. I can't quite remember. I can understand that you are worried about possibly losing the largest follicle - but if you were fairly happy with the number of eggs collected overall last time then I would suggest sticking with the doctor's advice. You're paying for her professional opinion. It's up to you in the end though.

Pizza for tea sounds lush Smidge. I can't offer much in the way of distraction, but I'm impressed with you learning French verbs. Maybe do some baking? It's DH's birthday this week so I think I'll throw some of my energy into making a splendid birthday cake.

lucieloos · 23/06/2015 12:21

Thanks spare and wild. I was happy with the number of eggs collected last time but then it didn't work and I'm kind of thinking maybe the largest one was the best quality and also what happened to the largest one when it disappeared? If it ovulated then this would have messed the transfer window up as my progesterone levels would have started increasing too soon and a day 5 transfer would have been no good. I've booked myself in for a progesterone test on Friday so hopefully I will know one way or another about that.

barkingtreefrog · 23/06/2015 17:45

Lucie I started cetrotide on cd6, seems everyone is different!

spare hope you're milking that last day! We decided we're going to make plans to take a year out next year and travel, which means saving up like mad from now on and not booking any holidays abroad. DH already had his summer trip booked so he gets to go away, but I don't.... Angry

lucieloos · 23/06/2015 21:25

Ahhh well I've decided to stick with what the czech clinic said and start the cetrotide tomorrow on day 9. It seems late but I read something from an American doctor about how starting cetrotide too early can suppress growth and he also said that he won't start it until at least 30% of the follicles are around 16-17mm and he will even let the lead go to 18mm for another couple to catch up. Seems to make sense although I do fully expect the largest one to have disappeared on my scan on Thursday but hopefully some of the smaller ones will have grown and made up for it. I've also booked in a progesterone test for Friday morning to double check that I haven't ovulated or that it's too high. If it is then I will have the collection and freeze any embryos and go back for a FET.

beakybeak · 23/06/2015 22:16

Lucie I think I started it around day 8/9. Great news that there are a few there though and fx for excellent quality follies this round.

kuma good luck for tomorrow's scan, when will they start you on menopur?

Wild baking sounds like a nice tasty distraction! How are you feeling? I haven't done the serum questionnaire yet as I don't have any of my up to date test results, the originals are around 2 years old now too. I've emailed Gennet in Prague though, waiting to hear back from them. I still am thinking of create in London too but I'm just worried about how realistic that is given the travelling etc.

Smidge how are you? Fx there's no pink at all this cycle. Hope you enjoyed your pizza!

Barking a year out sounds amazing, where would you like to go? I haven't really been traveling before (only general holiday tourism!) so am very jel!

Spare I hope you've had tons of those cocktails! They look amaze Grin

Tiger how are you? Did you get your bloods done and have you got the results yet? Hope you're feeling a bit better after being so good and not taking a duvet day!

Nolly how are you? Any updates on the singing swarthy Colombian builders?

Minx have you transcribed any more random receipts from the 1300's??!Grin

Hope everyone else is doing ok.

We have booked a little holiday so am looking forward to that! I've not been sleeping properly for a while so I'm trying to get back into my hypnotherapy as that usually sends me off no problem!

beakybeak · 23/06/2015 22:19

Sorry Rain meant to say I went to the GP and got a print out of our results to take with me as the GP had said "oh the clinic will fax us when they want them" arghhhh!

tigerdog · 23/06/2015 22:26

Another Facebook announcement. I feel like I'm the only one left as even the people I didn't expect to have kids are doing it Sad

How are you all this evening?

Feeling tired after bikram yoga. It was hard as I'm out of shape. On a mission to tone up and detox this week. No chocolate or unhealthy snacks, no dairy. Boooooring!

beakybeak · 23/06/2015 22:43

Aww that's rubbish tiger little hug and Flowers. I am so hateful towards smuggo preggos at the moment. Impressed with your detox though!

barkingtreefrog · 23/06/2015 23:17

Unfollow, unfollow , unfollow tiger!! I only see posts from dh, my brother and his wife. I figure if they have an announcement to make I'd know about it before it went on fb... Sorry you got hit with another Thanks.

beaky I don't want to leave the dog all year and I don't want to be away for a year given the condition of my Dad, so I'm thinking some time with the dog and the camper van in the Scottish islands, all those places I've always wanted to visit but it's been too far, then we'd come back home for a bit and possibly earn some money doing some supply teaching, then go to Australia over Christmas for a month. Come back, see family, more supply to top up funds, then off to South America for a few months Grin. All kicking off August 2016 Grin.

Smidge001 · 23/06/2015 23:41

Sounds fab Barking. MrSmidge and I have pondered a round the world ticket for when we come to England next year but I wonder actually if several independent trips would be better - to allow for earning topups, spending time with my family (who I miss hugely) and just to avoid travel fatigue!

I was going to check when I started the cetrotide Lucie but that means getting out of my warm bed and finding the paperwork Grin. I might check it out later when I dare to brave the cold...

Just had an email from my parents asking if I received the card&Aussie money sent by my aunt and uncle for my birthday Blush. I've been meaning to write to them to say thankyou but had been holding out Til I had some news to add - eg pregnant or even just about the holiday house in Kent that I've booked... (But I still don't know whether my brother and his family are going to stay with us the whole time or not - and number of beds available to ask my aunt and uncle along too will depend on that!)

Argh. And now they are thinking it didn't arrive coz clearly I would have said thankyou by now if I'd received it. Sad I'm a bad neice!!!

tigerdog · 24/06/2015 09:16

barking that sounds amazing. Mr T and I are thinking about doing something similar if things don't work out this year. I've also been looking at international jobs. I can't plod along like this forever. I also am getting fed up of my line of work. I just want to run a gluten free cafe by the sea.

You're right, I should unfollow but I seem to prefer to read every comment and then go back and look at their photos and then work out whether they are younger or older than I am. It's my own fault I feel down after doing that.

smidge I'm sure they'll understand if you write one now. Or a little white lie about the post Wink I recognise that delay tactic though - I've put off seeing friends in the hope that we'll have news by the time we see them. How are you feeling? I'm keeping everything crossed for you!

beaky how are you? When's the follow up? So glad you've got yourself a holiday booked. We all need things to look forward to. Damn the smug preggos. A detox is necessary! I've been eating chocolate and drinking wine for the last few weeks and I'm as spotty as hell, which has been the case since the start of ivf. I want to be dancing in my bikini at this festival in Lisbon next month. Despite trying to pretend I'm not an old fogey, I also look tired and haggard at the moment. If I wasn't ttc I'd be getting some filler under my eyes!! Bloods were done last weds but I havent been able to get through to the GP to get the results. Will try again today. I've been referred to an eye specialist about my eye muscle weakness too, might need surgery to correct it.

spare hope you don't have the post holiday blues too badly and that you had a wonderful time.

wild how are you feeling? What's the plan for the amazing birthday cake? I love hearing about baking exploits. Am thinking of you lots and keeping everything crossed.

happy how are you? Nearly time for a new thread...

nolly how's the sofa? How are you doing generally?

rain where are you at now? Have you had your screening bloods and do you have an ivf start date?

lucie that sounds sensible. Good luck with the next steps. I think we'll definitely consider treatment abroad if we can't get this NHS go or it doesn't work out. Am starting to think a bit longer term at the moment after just focusing on our recent ivf.

Hope everyone is having a good week. I'm on the holiday countdown - two weeks to go!

beakybeak · 24/06/2015 21:47

Ffs berries, our friends dog is preggo by accident.

kuma did you have a scan today?

smidge blame the post, it takes forever from Australia to the UK anyway. How are you feeling? I've also delayed things in the past thinking I may have some news.

Tiger our follow up is late July. Feels like ages! I love the sound of a music festival in sunny Spain! Who's headlining? Sorry to hear about the eye problems, it sounds awful. Also it's the last thing you need in too of all of this. I emailed Gennet in Prague, they emailed me back today, the cost of a cycle there is very reasonable but they haven't said anything about the questions I've asked re low amh/response. They have a 4-6 mth waiting list though. I was hoping to be able to do another cycle around September, whether that's private or NHS. Do you know how quickly you will be seen at your new clinic?

Barking that all sounds amazing! I've always wanted to do Scottish and Irish Islands and far flung UK places.

Wild what's the craic? How are you feeling? Hope your not too stressed at the moment.

funkymonk · 24/06/2015 21:49

Good evening Berries. I've finally got up and running with wifi so have been catching up on the news.
Congrats to Smidge and Wild on being PUPO and massive congrats to HB.
Lovely goodbye message Gill. All the very best, although I'm sure you'll still be on the FB page and calling in here now and again.
Happy, that's really super that you can crack on with your NHS cycle as soon as you've had your holiday!
Barking- your future plans sound stupendous, but of course you'll be laden with child by then and your plans will fall apart. ... Hope your Dad is feeling a little brighter. Must be tough to see him struggling. Big pat on the back to DH and his fundraising too!
Kuma was your scan today? How was it?
Beaky, how are you doing my lovely?
Lucie and other cetrotiders, I have no idea what cetrotide is? I didn't take it at all for my cycle.
How are you getting on with GoT, Nolly? Have you finished it yet? Gutted to wait so long for the next series! Where's your DH gone off too?
Waves to all Berries!
...DH is still in NZ until 4th August but I'm starting FET 8th July. Have scratch 1st July and start stabbing the week after. They're only putting me on progynova to build my lining, which I'm annoyed about as was led to believe I would have more than that- especially given that poor lining was why it got abandoned last time. Also surely having thrombophilia and likely impaired blood flow should warrant something?? Any suggestions ladies?
Next week is my 2 year berry anniversary and the 2 year anniversary of miscarriage 1. No offence y'all but it sucks to still be a berry. Pants.

funkymonk · 24/06/2015 21:58

Cross post Beaky. F*ck that dog! I'm mad at a pansy right now. A pansy seed has somehow managed to find a crack in my patio and has developed into a lovely little plant with it's purple flowers. What are the chances. I know it's not reproduced as such, but in my head it has. Damn thing.

beakybeak · 24/06/2015 22:15

Aww funky, that's shite, I'm so sorry. And I for one totally understand your still sucks to be a berry after everything you've been through. Flowers I have everything crossed for your FET. Cetrotide is used in short/antagonist protocol to stop ov. You'll have just had buserelin I think? Also, fuck the pansy. How annoying. Still welcome back though, hopefully it's not for long.

IamKuma · 24/06/2015 22:42

just a quickie, had scan, nothing has happened, I've got another booked on Friday but if still no follies growing I think they'll cancel Sad normally they would have stopped now as it's day 9 but I'm on holiday in August so can't fit in a cycle next month....
Pompons and stiff drinks required Wine

funkymonk · 24/06/2015 22:53

Oh no Kuma. I'm sorry. Have they given you anything extra to take over the next couple of days?

WildflowerMarmalade · 24/06/2015 23:15

Oh no Kuma. Let's crank up those pom-poms to supersonic speed. Hope DH is home to offer support. Come on Kuma's follies.

Grin Grin Grin at the pansy and the puppy.

Well hello Funky - your FET cycle is soon. Good on you for cracking on even though your DH will still be away. On suggestions for the lining isn't it Viagra they give to build linings? I don't have anything else to offer on that one I'm afraid.

Tiger I can totally visualise the coastal cafe thing for you. I'm getting excited about all those lovely, yummy, gluten free cakes. The birthday cake I've made is a Sacher Torte....first time ever made it. Then I went totally off piste by pouring over a mix of Disarrono, squeezed orange juice and sugar. So goodness only knows how it will turn out. I've managed to hide all trace of it from DH and will ice it tomorrow, we'll ganache it.

I'm sorry about all the preggo announcements and I can totally understand the compulsion to pore over every detail. It's like picking a scab.

Barking your outline for a grand tour sounds amazing and absolutely perfect for the time being.

Beaky it sounds like you have done some good research so far. Not sleeping well isn't great. For me poor sleep has always been the canary in the mine which tells me I'm about to crash and burn. I'm sure that's not the same for you, but look after yourself anyway. Hypno tapes sound like a good idea. And the holiday.

I'm doing ok. Absolutely no symptoms to speak of which helps me forget about the whole 2ww thing. I'm not massively pessimistic or optimistic about the outcome, although I did find myself pondering when to test based around the certain need to get over a disappointment. So I'm definitely convinced that is both yes and no at the same time - perfectly normal surely?

The one thing is that the injections I'm on - Clexane and lentogest - can both be pretty painful in their own ways. They both really hurt tonight which made me feel glum and resentful and all 'what's the point'. The Lentogest has a particularly long and quite thick needle which I have to stick in my bottom cheek. Sad

barkingtreefrog · 24/06/2015 23:27

kuma I'm sorry, that's frustrating and depressing in equal measure Angry. I'm pom pomming like crazy and crossing my fingers for some better news.

funky I think you, me and kuma are all over two years a berry (and happy, boodle and pip of course, have I forgotten anyone?). It does stink to still be here. Wasn't expecting that when I joined in Feb 2013 having already been trying over a year Sad.
Sounds like good timing on the FET, DH will be back in time for otd Grin.

cd20 here and still no +opk or temp rise. Got ewcm, had faint lines on opks, but nothing.
Still no nk cells results. But they did send the bill for it today. So if you've done it and can post a bill, why can't you post the sodding results?!

happylass · 25/06/2015 06:59

Morning Berries. Just popping in to say I'm still here and cheering you all on. Have proof read and edited 338 reports over the last 2 days and am literally cross eyed. Have had a quick scan back as far as I can on my phone but hopefully normal service will be resumed now.
Wild and Smidge I'm pom poming for you like crazy. When are your OTDs?
Kuma so sorry to hear there's nothing to report as yet. All appendages crossed for you.
Barking your trips sound amazing. If we haven't had any luck by next summer I want to do a big holiday à la Boodle. Think that will then herald the end of TTC for us as need to have end point in mind - can't keep on doing this for ever.
Funky great to have you back and fantastic to hear you've got a date for your FET. Sorry your DH won't be here but hopefully you'll have some good news for him on his return. It sure does suck to still be in Berry HQ - 3 years here for me come September Sad
Spare have you emigrated? Feels like you've been away for ever!
Have to get going now. Will work on the new thread after school. Any requests? Ladybros has to be in there obviously! Can people also cut/paste/edit the original list? I'm no Gillster and will surely forget something if I try to do it myself! Have a good day all.

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CatsCantFlyFast · 25/06/2015 07:03

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lucieloos · 25/06/2015 07:16

Oh Kuma, I really hope things pick up for you on Fridays scan! I have my next scan in an hour and I'm so nervous. I hate all this. I'm waiting to see if my largest follicle has disappeared again and if it has then I'm going to be panicking I've already ovulated and how that's going to affect other things!

Waves to Happy! Lovely to see you. Sounds like you have been busy!

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lucieloos · 25/06/2015 12:06

Went for my second scan today and whilst I had 11 decent follicles on day 7 I now only have 6 and only 1 of which is a decent size so looks like I will cancel. I don't know what has happened to them, whether the cetrotide was too late and I have ovulated?? So disappointed and upset I was all ready to go Hmm

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