The waiting game!!!

[Itwillhappenforus]

TWW officially begins!!!!!

AF due 13th May and have no idea of how I'm going to wait that long!

This is our first cycle TTC baby #1 and since we have decided to try I have been very anxious. I just want this to happen, my close family have all had fertility issues and I've convinced myself I will too.

Just thought I'd start thus for support for all wanting some words if encouragement.

bourbon - of course - big interview for you on Tuesday! Hope you manage to get in some prep this weekend xx

Thanks soda DH is working tomorrow am so I am going to do a tonne of prep then :) I know I am good at my job, so want to make sure I get the best examples for questions they will ask sorted in my head. I feel positive it's just all down to who up against really... That's what's lost me the past two jobs I've interviewed for, people with some slightly stronger experience in an element of the role I've gone for. This one I fit all the criteria so hopefully it will come down to the person... The places I'd interviewed at earlier said that I could have fit in well to their teams and things so just gotta see.... Nervous! Still days to go though!! At least it helps me be distracted from focusing so much on ttc

Good point bourbon it would be nice to have something to distract me - especially now I'm coming up to crunch time! Yeah the job thing is often about who you're up against isn't it? You've just got to do your best and hope you're best on the day.

I've been thinking about POAS all day so I just came home and did it. Obviously BFN. Crazy woman. In my defence I've got a birthday wine tasting thing tomorrow for a friend so wanted to make sure it was ok to have a drink. Until I see a positive I'm going to continue to have a drink but not go mad just in case. No symptoms to speak of but then last month I was convinced I had all the symptoms including inplantation bleeding about 9dpo! But I obviously didn't so who knows? Argh!

Soda you enjoy birthday drinks. If you are pregnant you got next 8 months plus of no alcohol. Fx for you.

Hi everyone! So much to catch up on lol. Fx for all of u!

bourbon ur commute sounds like a nightmare. Thanks for the advice though, think we're just going to see what happens since getting pregnant seems so difficult (how do people get pregnant by accident?!).

london sorry about AF i think a holiday is exactly what u need. Hopefully as you'll be all nice and relaxed it'll help with ttc

soda never thought of it as "unofficially engaged" before...i think i'll class me and DP as this too. We know we will get married, spoke about it and the whole babies or wedding first conversation, but we're not actually engaged!

loving all this wedding planning talk! Gives me plenty ideas for when we eventually get married haha

hi ladies how is it going? I'm taking a break from interview prep - i feel confident cos I've read the job spec a millions times and know i have good experience for them all.. so fingers crossed they will like me.

I had a random things with my Ovia app, I put in some symptoms and then it decided to change the fertile period... so I am now at the end of the window and peak was apparently earlier, luckily i had been DTD every other day after AF and well DTD daily from weds.... but I have no idea if it is accurate or not, and who knows, think i will just DTD every other day from now? Or just when feel like it is need more, very strange - has it happened to anyone else? It changed cos of my CM. And now it says I am in my TWW and have 11 days til POAS... but I think I am going to try and hold out til 13th June probs....depending on how I feel. I am so confused by it all

sarah I know what you mean, I really do struggle to understand how it can accidentally happen - it seems so unlikely! And makes you wonder why it is hard when you do want it to happen!

anyway enough rambles - hope all having a good weekend

Evening all, hope you've had good weekends. Mine has been nice and relaxed. POAS this morning but BFN. I'm 11DPO now so not surprising but have heard of people getting BFP this early. I'd love to say I'm not going to test again for a few days but Id probably be lying! I don't feel very hopeful. No particular symptoms although my nipples are quite sensitive - not sore exactly, but I'm just 'aware' of them in my bra if you see what I mean! And I'm getting quite a lot of thick creamy CM (sorry for TMI!) which ovia tells me is promising! I think I'm just trying not to get my hopes up.

bourbon - I think ovia updates itself all the time depending on what data you add in. It got my fertile period wrong so when I put in my positive OPK result it then adjusted its predictions based on that. Luckily I'd been DTD a lot anyway! I think it gets more accurate the more info you put in and the longer we use it. Glad you're feeling prepped for the interview - it's good to know you've done everything you can.

soda ahhh OK! I did think that, we will see, I will just enter data and then see what it tells me then. I will just wait until a defined date as to when I think I should POAS. And I have only been using it just over two cycles now, so will probably get better as you say. Only way I will know officially re ovulation is by a OPKs i guess.

BFN for me this morning. Feeling a bit low. And it's flaming Monday as well - urgh!

soda boooo for the BFN - but it is still early so maybe in a few days you will get a BFP :) not over til AF arrives :) keeping fx for you

tell me about it - Mondays :( I really hate them... actually I hate any day with work! But perhaps soon I will love work again.... I have actually forgotten what that is like though :(

I am now CD17.. which seems crazy! I don't understand where time has gone since AF, but now in the waiting game again.... my app now tells me 11 days til testing - but we will see, that feels a bit early for me, but I will see how things go over next week and then decide if feel like doing one then.... I am going to try not to symptom check too much, I think as I am so busy this week & weekend it will hopefully help! Although lets face it - it's going to be in back of my mind regardless! and anything that feels off will no doubt make me question it

Morning ladies!

Had a really horrible couple of days at work last week. Ended up crying on both Thur and Fri. My office has a leak. Whenever it rains it will leak onto my desk and computer. It’s been going on for many many years and is getting worse. When I complained to the Manager all she kept saying was, “what are you going to do about it?” and “have you submitted xxx form?” It rained really heavily on Friday and I came back after a meeting to find a puddle of water on my desk around my computer and both keyboard and mouse ruined. Ending up spending 2 hours filling in different forms and was told by the Health & Safety department to clean up the puddle myself and to fill in more forms! Was so frustrated that I started crying. Had a cheeky glass of wine after work.

Told DP about it and he asked if it could be hormones, which in a way is very sweet but the sad thing is that it’s too early in my cycle for it to be hormonal. Had my first BFN this morning.

Was going to do some work over the wkn but ended up browsing wedding dresses online instead. Found one that I really like and is ridiculously cheap on the internet but read that those internet shops are made in China and quality is really poor. And I guess it’s too early to get a dress when I don’t even know when the wedding will be in relation to TTC.

Elle Am sorry about to hear what you DH said last week. Guess TTC can be very stressful for men as well as for us.

Your wedding sounds amazing! I love that idea a lot! So much more personal. Must have taken quite a lot of preparation to organise all those things?

soda isn’t it annoying that we can’t plan things. It’s driving me mad! I’m still waiting for DP to finally propose. I’ve only told 1 friend about us getting married because I want to wait until he’s proposed. So difficult to keep it secret. Actually, am I engaged? Or unofficially engaged as well? I still haven’t got a ring… not even a Haribo one…

It’s really lovely what your friend did. Thank you for sharing.

bourbon Good luck with your interview tomorrow!

I’ve got my Day 21 progesterone test tmw. Not sure how I feel about it…

elle how are you getting on?

gakay oh my goodness that does sound awful. how is it up to you to sort the issues out though? Its your place of work, not your business to sort out! :( what a nightmare! I don't blame you for getting upset.

Oooh what was the dress like?

And thanks for the luck :) I am trying to keep calm - stressing won't help the interview or my hormones! But easier said then done! I think its cos I so desperately want to be able to hand my notice in here!

I posted on here this morning but obviously there was a problem as it is not here now and it was a lengthy catch up email to all..... AAHHHH

First thing first good luck bourbon for the interview tomorrow...let us know how you get on.

All is okay with DH, we had a good long chat, he just doesn't want all the details he doesn't want to feel like he has to perform he wants to keep it more fun, which is fine with me, except I ask for more when its the right time LOL so kind of a big clue

So my 1st month with OPK's, well then had a positive result late on Saturday afternoon and again Sunday mid morning. So dtd on both days. According to info I have found ovulation normally occurs 24-36 hours after the detection of the lh surge, so my question do we DTD again tonight? 3 days in a row is rather unheard of in my house so what to do??

gakay it was amazing well at least I thought so but it WAS VERY HARD WORK with lots to organise, luckily I have a great family who helped (well some of them did )

elle hmmmm I am not sure, I have no idea when I ovulated, so I have dtd a stupid amount of times over the past week... literally just looked at my Ovia and not including today I have only not DTD on 3 days since AF finished... in fact its been 5 days in a row at the moment... it said my fertile window ended yesterday, but I think we will DTD today/tomorrow depending on how feel and that should definitely have us covered... I think sperm can live for a few days, so you should be OK if you don't want to dtd today as it started showing sat and you dtd and then sunday showed and dtd so really it should have caught it,

if it honestly doesn't happen this month I will have no clue what to do to try next month... haha. Although next fertile window is over my birthday and we are having a mini break for that, so works out ok....

thanks for the good luck - it is 9.30 tomo so will update as soon as home and getting back into the grind of the working day!

I agree weddings are hard work - but totally worth it when you see everything you imagined and worked towards come to life gakay it is all about getting help from people that you know can do things which will save costs/make use of skills

Hi everyone,

Going to do another POAS tomorrow but not feeling hopeful. Ovia says AF not due til Friday but I had a few tell-tale cramps today which makes me think it's more likely to be tomorrow I've also been a proper grumpy cow today - another sign! But hard to tell if that's because of my BFN this morning!!

bourbon - feel totally the same. DTD so much this month - at least every other day (except in the last week) and every day during fertile period. I don't know what I'll do next month!

elle - I'm pretty sure that ovulation happens up to 36 hours after you first see the surge so if you first got a positive on sat and you DTD then and Sunday I reckon you'll be covered - especially if you did it before then too. I think swimmers can stick around for a few days! No harm in today too if you can swing it!

gakay - that sounds awful at work! My office is constantly freezing. I have to wear so many clothes, even when it's hot outside! But at least I'm dry! Please don't get wedding dress online! I've just had a bridesmaid dress disaster from an online Chinese supplier - it ended up being really expensive as had to pay over £100 in alterations despite me putting my measurements into website. And it was still horrid - very cheap looking! What does the progesterone testing do if you don't mind me asking?

Massive good luck tomorrow bourbon - thinking of you and sending positive thoughts for your interview xx

Hi ladies

I am finally home, and logged back on from interview

Oh my god i feel shattered... I think it went well.... I don't think I could have done anything else, I feel it went well, I had them referring to me as when you work with X when you do Y rather than the person we need X/y I also had them telling me details about key stakeholders that you really wouldn't mention at an interview stage. I am feeling I wouldn't change anything... apart from I left my whole marketing portfolio there... I asked if they wanted to look at it and they said yes could they keep it and get it back to me via agency, I expected them to look at it with me, but now I feel a bit lost, and worried. What if they see something they don't like?! and I am not there to explain reasons behind it... I really want the job, they are interviewing today and thursday and then I should hear if I get to round 2 where there will be a dealing with a circumstance and I have to then say what i would do in the role tackling it, but I kinda did that all through interview, so hopefully i will get to that stage. I am now going to spend all day and coming days obsessing until I know what the outcome is..... and I found myself cross with myself cos as much as i want a baby i want that job more at the moment! I think partly cos I have always thought babies won't happen cos of endometriosis, if it does will feel like a miracle, but i know i would really enjoy the job and i felt more like me than i have in ages discussing it and how i approach situations and everything... I am rambling I know, but who knows what will happen and i feel so torn. I want both! lol

soda are you using internet cheapies to test early? One of the things i the is that the symptoms for pregnancy and AF are so similar! You just never know til its there whichever the outcome :(

How is everyone doing? Please distract me!

Hi bourbon - glad it went as well as it could have gone. Job interview is a bit like TTC isn't it - you just do your best and keep your fingers crossed and you can't do much about it once youve done your bit! Hoping you get through to the second round.

They're just Internet cheapies bourbon - I got a load of them along with OPKs so don't feel bad using them a lot! I've got a posh digital one but was planning on using that only if / when got BFP to confirm.

I got another BFN this morning. I don't feel as disappointed today as I was expecting it - I was in an awful mood yesterday! I just don't think its my month this time. But AF not here and not experiencing cramps like I was yesterday so who knows. I'm on CD29 but this is only my second month off pill. Last month my cycle was 31 days so if I'm not pregnant would like AF to come in next day or so to help with my cycle planning / obsessing! And I have a wedding at the weekend so would like to know if I can enjoy some champagne!

bourbon well done with the interview. We’ll try our best at distracting you until you hear about the second round. Fx
Many women conceive successfully with endo so I would stay optimistic.

elle like the others have said, I think you’re covered DTD on both peak days. Swimmers can survive about 3 days.

soda the test is to check if I have low progesterone. This is cos I’ve been spotting for many days b4 period for the last few months which could be a sign of it, so as my previous 2 early mc. Low progesterone can cause problems with implantation and early mc. I actually hope everything is normal with me, but if not, this is sth that is relatively easy to fix. I’ve also got my gynae (not fertility) appt in 5 weeks. Hope I wont need it in the end. Though I’ve had another BFN this morning L I’ve just bought some ICs – think the ones I’ve got aren’t very sensitive.
I hope you get your BFP soon or get to enjoy your champagne.

So, the dress that I like is a vintage-ish lace shoulder-less A-line dress with a flower round the waist and tea-length.

The friend I’m planning to ask to be my MOH is very good at crafty stuff so hopefully she could help me a lot.

I’ve got a dilemma here: I’ve unofficially, in my mind, “un-friended” someone who still sees me as her best friend. This is cos she is really high-maintenance and self-centred. When I went through my 2 mc’s b4 Xmas she was least sympathetic and said it’s good cos when she returns home for Xmas I could go drinking with her and then when we met up all she talked abt was how all her fds either have babies or were pg and she’s being neglected. I really don’t want her to be my bridesmaid (as I’m sure she will be spending more time moaning abt her dress or how all our guests are couples than being happy for me) but I know she would be really offended. What would you do?

soda I know - so much torture!!! haha....I want both! lol. Gosh you are lucky things came back so quick after pill, i had months from stopping pill to being able to try as it took ages for AF to come back. Its always so unpredictable... I am sure champagne won't hurt if AF doesn't appear - just dont go too crazy :)

I am driving myself so crazy at the moment!!! all the unknown is so annoying! haha

Btw, did you girls hear the news yesterday abt encouraging women to start TTC b4 30? I'm really annoyed abt it. There's enough pressure on women already and don't think I need someone to make me feel shameful for not having met a man I loved and good enough to father my future children by 30 and have focused my youth on developing my career.

gakay thanks :) i am already talking myself round that I won't have got the job, and overanalysing the conversation and wondering if what they said/didn't say matters, and all that!

I know! I think that woman needs to shut up! Its all about when you feel ready to start a family and feeling secure to give them what they need.

I was with my DH from 19 and am now about to turn 31, I knew we were going to be together for keeps, but we wanted to wait until we were financially a bit more secure and we were married. (although he would have happily tried earlier - I was wanting my career to be strong and an income that would support the family we want)

Everything happens for a reason, when it should happen, and people need to stop judging everyone all the time for decisions!

TMI but wanted to ask, I just went to the toilet, and when i wiped i had my CM which is creamy but it had a pink tinge... AF isn't due for approx 9 days so not sure why. Has anyone else had that? It wasn't like my normal spotting before my AF as i usually get that for a few days. Random!

gakay - it's a new scary story every day about fertility and it makes me so angry! The problem is its usually the men who won't commit earlier! It was kind of important for me to find the right man and make sure we were both ready before TTC! Argh!

gakay - re your friend - if she wasn't your bridesmaid would she stop speaking to you? And if she did that would you be upset? I think that's something to think about. Also is she part of a group of friends so it would be really awkward and completely obvious that she was left out? Or could you get round that too? Basically it seems that from what I've seen you can't have a wedding without upsetting at least 1 person so I think you should go with what makes you happy - it's your wedding after all. And for what it's worth she sounds so self absorbed that she wouldn't be a very good bridesmaid anyway!

bourbon - actually that did happen to me last month around 10 days before AF came. I convinced myself it was implantation bleeding but it wasn't! Doesn't mean yours isn't though! Yeah I was lucky to get AF quickly last month - I was on pill for over 10 years without a break so worried it would take ages. I guess that's why I wasnt too upset about not bring pregnant last month as was glad to see AF! But I did have a bit of random spotting etc last month and nothing so far this month. I will not be so happy to see her this month!!

Ovia says I can actually POAS tomorrow! I was convinced that AF was going to start today as had cramp like pains but nothing so far. Fx but not getting hopes up- I have no symptoms at all. Will let you know!

soda you said what I was meaning to gakay in a much better way! Lol. Ok I am glad it's not abnormal then to get the random spotting. I will relax, it was so strange, I think it would be too early for implantation anyway, who knows. Very odd. I reckon my hormones are still adapting to the lack of pill so no idea what is really normal as such...

Fx for you poas tomo :)

BFN for me this morning