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Chops, yay you've finished work, now you can switch to holiday mode

Wow that was a lot to catch up on!

Sparkly congratulations
Lucie thinking of you

Ooh Oysters getting married in the morning, ding dong the bells are gonna chimmmmme
Have a fabulous day Oyster, enjoy every minute xx

Hi all. Have just spent aaages trying to catch up! Feels like I've been away for a while, even though I've been trying to keep up with you all.

Pixa If you're still lurking: I hope you're ok. We will be here when you feel ready to return

Wotsits and Yokyil Congratulations on your BFPs. Really happy for you both.

Rainy Sorry you've had a rough few days, lovely. Glad to hear that you made your blood test though! I always feel extra panicked when on the way to a hospital appointment, even when I know I'm in plenty of time, so I hate to think how you were feeling!

lucie I have no words for you, as there aren't any that would do it justice, but we are all thinking of you and rooting for you and we are here for you. Whatever the result, there are always options.

Spinning Hope you're ok re. your DH's SA results. Do you know what he can do to improve them? Really hoping that today's test shows an improvement for you.

Pug Still thinking of you. I know what limbo is like, although I haven't been through anything nearly as devastating as you have. I think that others' advice is great- planning a weekend away sounds like something you could get stuck into.

Sammy Sorry for AF. I'll give an update on my HyCoSy in a minute, but I asked if DH could come in with me and he did... and I was really glad he was there, so if you think you might need him, I would definitely wait until he can be with you.

night Glad you're feeling better

Is Oyster getting married tomorrow? Good luck Oyster! Even though you probably won't read this!

aux Hope you're having a good time on hols. Yay for increased LP!

Daisy Hope you get lots and lots of well-timed and fun shagging in over this long weekend! Hope the baby shower wasn't too much.

Boris Visitors this weekend sucks. Take care of yourself and try not to over-do it. You will be shattered with being back at work. Make sure your DH puts in an effort. Do you feel better knowing that you have an appointment for the dildocam, despite it being a long way away?

Sparkles So pleased for you!!!! I hope you will stop your fretting now, my love, but I know you won't! Relax and enjoy Oh, and I didn't know about not being able to DTD for two days after the HyCoSy, but thank you- I do now!

Riceicle Sorry that you're feeling rubbish and that you're spotting. I'm afraid that I can't help with the low progesterone query, but I hope you can manage to have a good weekend despite the antibiotics and everything else.

Nomio I am glad that someone has listened to you about the OSOS (I don't think that's the right initialism, but you know what I mean). I'm sorry, though, that no-one has called you and that you're feeling rubbish and have to wait until Tuesday. Why do these things always seem to happen around a bank holiday?

Queen and Purdie A few lifetimes ago pages back, you asked after my boy dog. He's still limping! He has another vets appointment on Tuesday. I'm really not sure what they're going to be able to do, if anything, as he's had scans and x-rays and anti-inflammatories, and injections both on his back and straight into the joint. Really hope they can do something though; it's really not nice seeing him limping around and not putting his foot down

Waves to Juney and Woolly and everyone else that I have missed an update from!

Phew! Have had Emmerdale on pause for 25 MINS and still haven't written my update! Aaaargh!

Eskimo, I'm not sure motility can be improved on really. He's taking lots of vits and it's been 12 weeks between tests so we'll wait and see. I'm hoping maybe it was a bad sample and this time they'll be amazing clutching at straws
Sorry your doggies still poorly. Hope he picks up soon.

Ok, so, to cut a long story short... the HyCoSy was bloody awful, but my tubes are fine.

I don't want to put anyone off, but I don't think it will, because even if I had read that it was the worst pain imaginable to anyone ever, in the whole history of mankind (which it wasn't), I would have still gone through with it all, because we do, don't we?

It was just very, very uncomfortable, plus I think that I had built myself up psychologically for it, in a huge way. The first thing she did was do another dildocam, because if I had ovulated, then she wouldn't have been able to do the procedure. She couldn't quite see one of my ovaries because it was high up and out the way, so she really had to push the thing up and round and it was just so painful, and then she confirmed that there were no dominant follicles again and that I hadn't ovulated, and at that point, because of the pain and the hope of ovulation had gone, I burst into tears

Luckily DH was in with me and I clung to him and squeezed and the nurses were just so lovely. She then did the HyCoSy and again, it was really painful. I had to cough a lot of times, because she couldn't find my cervix and then it wouldn't open, so I coughed and coughed, which made DH cough in sympathy and once she was in, and the balloon was inflated, she tried to get the speculum out, but I had seized up and wouldn't let go! So it ended up being a bit comical. My tubes were absolutely fine. The nurse inserting the dye said that she didn't even have to pump it in, as they sucked it up on their own (!) and the one taking the pictures described them as beautiful (again !).

Afterwards, they advised us to go to the café for a cuppa for 30 minutes in case I felt faint, but straight away I was absolutely fine. I have been on the sofa all afternoon as I have felt completely drained of energy, but I haven't had any pain at all. I think it is just stale adrenaline and mixed emotions. On the one hand, I have 'beautiful' tubes, but on the other, I must be getting false LH surges after the positive OPK two days ago, but no evidence of ovulation at all. I did suspect that though, and have to think positively. Onwards and upwards eh? Have blood tests in a couple of weeks for CD21 and then I think I will be back to see the consultant some time in June.

Thank you so much for all the messages of support for today; they really helped

Forgot to add- I did ask about PCOS and she said that it wouldn't show up on the u/s anyway and that only a blood test could confirm it. So that's something that I will be asking about at my next consultation too. x

Oh Eskimo, that sounds bloody awful, thank goodness dh was with you to hand hold. Still no ov but good news you have beautiful tubes. Do you know what the next step will be when you see the consultant in June?

Spinning Have everything crossed for you that it was just a bad sample. I'm not sure what the next step will be, but I am hoping that, if I haven't had a period by June, they might suggest clomid? I am wary though, that I haven't really given my body a chance to get back on track on it's own. Came off the pill in November, went to GP in January and was given pills to induce period and then the same in April, so haven't had a long stretch of time where I just 'leave it and see.' Part of me wants to do that, and not interfere (because I have a feeling that's what has got me into this mess!) and part of me thinks 'Screw it. I'm not getting any younger. Give me the drugs and make me ovulate...' Just not sure what it for the best

Eskimo lovely! What a day for you! I absolutely sympathise as my HSG was hell on earth. so glad you had dh with you! Maybe that's different with the fancy one Sammy.. I wasn't allowed dh because HSG was x ray area but maybe because your one is ultrasound it would be allowed? So glad to hear tubes are fine, I mean, beautiful! but yes frustrating about OV.. Well, we are in may now! So June ain't far and hopefully that will be when you get lots more info and help! Well done on getting through it all today and not giving up during all the pain. Hope you are all cosy and rest well tonight.. Much needed! Sending to you

Thank you Sparkly You're right. June isn't far away and I will see what they say. In the meantime, DH and I will hopefully be DTD a lot more now that HyCoSy is over with.

Yep, all steps forward Eskimo !!

Eskimo my hsg was horrendous and it couldn't even be completed due to the amount of pain and they also could get any further in so you've done well with going through it despite the pain. I hope you get some answers and a plan of action in June and as Sparkly says it's not far away at all. Things are moving in the right direction. DH couldn't come in with me either so maybe the rules are different for each procedure.

Oh Dizzy Thank you. When did you go for yours? How are you lovely? I'm sorry if I've missed any of your updates. xx xx

No dh didn't come in with me for my hsg either, presumably because of x ray. My hsg really wasn't too bad. I knew I just had to relax my lower half whilst they were inserting things and that would prevent discomfort. I just had trouble with spotting after. I spotted every day from hsg to af and my lp was shortened to 8 or 0 days from the normal 14! We didn't ttc due to the spotting etc and it was a glorious break! Lol

Eskimo mine was a few years ago when we were ttc DD but it's certainly not something I wish to have repeated! My endo was pretty bad and according to my consultant my experience only reflected this. Only update here is I've started to temp and ov has been confirmed so that's a relief at least.

Eskimo well done for putting up with the pain and discomfort , Good to hear your tubes are looking good, you have to do what you feel is right for you, I have been off the pill for over a year and i think my cycles are going back to a normal 28 day, with the help of evening primrose oil, but I'm still spotting, you may start ovulating on your own in a few months but if you can get the help with Clomid and it helps then maybe its the best option,

chops It wasn't the inserting things that was the problem. It was the fact that she couldn't find my ovary and therefore had to push up higher and to the side, and it was excruciating. It was very hard to 'relax' after that and that's why I clung on to the speculum. Then there was a problem with the cervix, as that was also high, and the whole experience was not only painful, but also triggered a few emotions when I found out that I hadn't actually ovulated, despite the positive OPK on Wednesday. I know everyone is different, but it really wasn't just a matter of relaxing. The previous dildocam in April and smear tests I've had in the past have been fine. This one was, to use sparkly's words: Hell on earth

Oh eskimo hope you can relax abit now. Sounds like an ordeal. At least all these tests help us to head in the right direction. June isnt to far away. and for you.

Ditto eskimo it was the trying to push further up that caused the awful pain. Very hard to relax in such a situation but even then no amount of relaxing would have helped. Mine was a few years ago when ttc DD but it's something I would never want to have repeated. No updates here apart from ov being confirmed by temps and now 6dpo.

Dizzy Glad that ovulation has been confirmed for you. I keep meaning to start temping, but I'm absolutely rubbish first thing in a morning and don't think I could function!

Rainy Thanks for the advice. I do need to start taking my EPO regularly again.

Thank you Boris Have your visitors arrived yet? x

I'm the same eskimo and I initially would fall asleep with thermometer in my mouth but it becomes a habit after a few days. It's very insightful.

Visitors have been here for a day. Only another 4 to go.

Good luck Bozza