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Oh Lucie, I have no words. I'm praying that you are one of those people who don't show positive until like 16dpo. Thinking of you lovely, Xx

Thank you Sammy I'm so crushed at the moment. Just sat in bed crying.

Don't give up yet Lucie, I'm sure someone said further up the thread that their sister didn't test positive till 16dpo with their IVF!

Lucie fx it is too early for you, will you hold out until Tuesday's blood now?

Oh Lucie :(.
I wish I could make this all better for you.
Are you on your own? Can your dh come and look after you? I hate to think of you sitting there all by yourself so upset. Xx

Thanks night, in extreme cases I think people test positive later but I really don't feel that will be us.

Mummy I'm not sure what to do yet. I will probably test tomorrow or Sunday with dh more for his benefit really so it can sink in for him a bit

Sammy, thank you so much sweetie. Yes I am on my own at the moment as DH is in work. I confessed to him last night that I had tested early and it was negative and whilst there was still a chance deep down I didn't think it had worked. He was so upset and it broke my heart. He cried and said he had been feeling so positive about it all and really thought this would work for us. He can't understand why nothing we do will work. He won't be able to come home early today and I don't want to worry him in work. He will finish a little early as it's Friday and will be home about 4pm.

lucie I am so very sorry you are in this situation. I can imagine that the rollercoaster you've been on must be so much more amplified with all the scientific (& financial) input. Have you contacted DH this morning? There's nothing we can say to make you feel any better but please know we are all thinking of you

Thank you pug, I haven't contacted DH as I don't want him to worry or be upset and have to spend the rest of the day in work, it's not fair on him. I will be ok. It's just such a hard blow after everything we have been through. I guess in time we will get used to it though and try again.

Congratulations to yokyil I will cross absolutely everything for you that this will be supersticky.

wotsits congrats again, sorry if I sounded insincere last night - was having a bad day.

I still have some pain behind my knee and had worked myself up that I had a blood clot and it was going to finish me off, or worse, I'd be put on meds to sort it out that would prevent us TTC for months. Managed to get an appt with my GP this morning and she's reassured me that she doesn't think I have DVT just a strained muscle. She was very lovely though and more concerned about talking about how I was feeling and coping.

DH & I are going out for dinner with some of his friends from work tonight. One is 7 months pregnant. the other had an abortion a few years ago, which I have never been at all bothered by until now None of them knew we were pregnant. Not sure whether to get him to mention it to them at work today so they can avoid putting their foot in it with a 'oh when are you two going to have a baby' question, or whether that'll make them be all awkward around me

Sorry loves I haven't had a day off since the 19th so finding it hard to read everything!

sparkly I'm thinking of you though!

Sorry sammy for AF :(

Lucie so sorry it's still BFN :( could it still be too early?

Congratulations Yokyil and wotsits !! Due Dates please for spreadsheet! :D

lucie I am so, so disappointed for you, of course you're feeling crushed, I can't imagine how painful this must be. I'm praying it's still too early for you. If it hasn't worked out, give yourself time to come to terms with it, have a good cry and cuddle with DH tonight, but know that this journey isn't over for you yet, you will have a new plan after this, and new hope. Thinking of you xxx

yokyil lovely congratulations wonderful news xx

sammy sorry for AF you okay?

Lucie, my heart breaks for you reading your update. I was so hoping you'd get lucky on your first ivf cycle and get your baby. I hope your dh has the weekend off and you can spend time together. You will get through this and then you can start to plan your next try. It will happen for you, please believe that. Sending a big hug to you

Yokyil, yay, a bfp! congratulations to you

Lucie, I forgot to say thank you for the honest feedback on dp's results. I did check in here last night and see your reply and I felt so cross with myself that I've had these results for 3 months and only focused on the sperm count, feeling sure it could be improved. So I was awake until 3am feeling upset and frantically googling to see if anyone has got a bfp with such low motility. It doesn't look good but I keep wondering about the bfp I had in Oct 2012, we must have just got lucky although not that lucky as I mc'd. Anyway dp has spunked in a pot this morning so we just have to wait and see if there's any change.

No sign of Sparkly yet?

Thank you woolly and spinning you have brought tears to my eyes again. It is such a hard process to go through for it to fail. We had such an amazing time out in Czech and we felt so close. I just really wanted it to work this time as next time DH wouldn't be able to take so much time off work and so wouldn't be able to spend the whole time out there with me. It would have been the perfect ending to an amazing time this time around but we will try to stay strong and get ourselves together and go again. I always knew there was a really good chance it wouldn't work first time but I didn't want to let myself believe it.

I'm so sorry if I upset you last night spinning. I really didn't intend to do that. I just want you to have the best possible chance of another baby. I really hope all the vitamins and supplements have helped improve things this time around. They really do work wonders for a lot of men. Big hugs x

Awww lucie I'm so so sorry it was a bfn. That just sucks. This whole ttc thing is just cruel and unfair. You will get pregnant, you will. It could still be early to be testing? You'll know more than me about that though. Thinking of you and your DH xxxx

Lucie I'm so sorry. My heart breaks to think you are going through this. Nothing said will make any of this better for you but please know we are all here for you.

Lucie my heart breaks for you. So much love to you and DH xxx

Lucie, I am so sorry for you. I can't imagine how much pain you must be feeling right now. Do you have any friends or family you could call? It breaks my heart to think of you sat there crying all alone. I am sending you a big squeezy hug. X

Yokyil, congratulations! I hope this one sticks like superglue!

I hope Sparkly is getting on ok.

Yokyil congratulations. Fx for a sticky bean.

Thinking of you sparkly.

Thanks for popping by Genni it means a lot. Some people get their bfp a little later but really not many at all. I have accepted its over for us.

Thanks Dizzy, Pikz and Nomio you have all been amazing on here ever since I started this process. I don't really have anyone I can call at the moment. The only other people who know are my parents who are away for 3 weeks. I will be ok only a few hours until DH comes back now and then we have a long weekend together to try and get over this before I go back to work on Tuesday.

If you need to talk, you know where we are, Lucie. X