anyone else in the 2ww but absolutely not symptom spotting this time?

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Last month I drove myself nuts with symptom spotting and early poas. I had every sign and symptom going and was convinced I was pregnant. Luckily I kept a list of all my many symptoms on a calendar so this time if necessary I can remind myself that pms has all the same same features as early pregnancy.
I'm determined not to test until 23rd, as I think I should come on then if I'm going to, must stay strong!! Anyone want company in ignoring the whole thing?!

Hi all. I'm having a seriously weird cycle. According to my fertility monitor I should have ovulated on day 13 but my temperature didn't rise until day 15. Now it's day 21, so either 6 or 8 dpo, and my temperature has already taken a nosedive. I knew this was going to be a bad month! Just want AF to arrive now so I can put this month behind me and start again.

doom you could look into agnus castus, I seem to remember it can help with lengthening the luteal phase.

hi monkey, that does sound frustrating.

Nothing yet here though I'm expecting af tomorrow.

Af hasn't arrived yet but been having cramps since Sunday mornin.

Hi all, been watching the thread from the start, but lurking. Had a mc at Christmas and three cycles since, all BFN! This month felt different, but I have just poas and again bfp! My question is could this be because I have tested too early? I had my smiley face on the opk last Sunday and calculating that AF not due then till this Sunday. Has anyone had a bfn which turned into a bfp?

BFN can turn into BFP as the tests measure the HCG hormone in your urine which tends to double every two days after implantation, I think most tests don't pick up the hormone till it is at least 25IU.

So congratulations Lily

Doom have you tested yet?

I am starting right from the beginning again and this month just for variety I keep getting a high reading on my clearblue fertility monitor but no surge yet, so three days of a high reading but no smiley face arrrgghhhh

Monkey doesn't the fertility monitor measure that you've had the hormone surge indicating that you will ovulate within the next 24-46 hours? Mine just shows smiley face for two days and high for the third so basically indicating a good chance of conceiving on the two smiley face days and the third day after just for good measure.

According to the obsessive reading I have done OPK's used in conjunction with temping and checking CM is the best indicator of whether you've ov'ed.

Frankly after all the reading I find it amazing anyone manages to accidentally fall pregnant!

doom how are you doing? I get cramps for a week before af sometimes, it doesn't necessarily mean your cycles are shortening.

I'm due af today, didn't poas this morning as I had a bit of spotting yesterday so pretty sure she's coming.

Hi fuzzy, normally I get the two smiley peak days and the temp rise on the third day which I guess means I ovulate around 48 hours after the first peak reading. This month fertility friend had me ovulating on day 13 (as expected from the monitor) but when I took the monitor readings out it changed it to day 15 which was the temp rise day. Now I don't know if fertility friend was just saying day 13 because of the monitor info. Having had a drop in temp 2 days ago I thought I was out but then I had one day of dark brown spotting and today the temp is back up. I thought it could be an implantation drop and bleeding but the spotting has just started again so I think this is actually probably the start of AF.

I'm considering seeing my GP as my DH needs to start taking medication which we're holding off on while we ttc. If it's just not going to happen for us I'd rather know now so he can get on with taking his meds. I'll be devastated but I'd still rather know one way or the other.

Monkey I use an app also (Ovia), but it tends to change according to what my monitor says. So this month it's totally skewed in comparison to last month. Altho this month I am taking starflower oil as soreness before ov was becoming unbearable.

Sounds sensible to get checked with doc just incase I think they do bloods to check if your ovulating. I don't know too much about it tho I'm afraid.

I tested Sunday morning, bfn but had af cramps since Sunday pm still no af yet.

Temperamental my cycles have only been 25 days last 3 cycles so I know they were short, pre pill they were clockwork 28 days.

Since I've been using opk's I've had 10 day leutal phase. But depending on when she arrives that might change this cycle.

I'm anxiously going to the loo every half hour checking if she's arrived but praying she never does. Pretty sure she'll be here any time tho.

Sorry typo error. I got a BFN not P, if I had I would be climbing the walls with happiness and running round the streets! Still no sign of AF though, but technically not due yet either, hence wondered if any one had had a positive after a negative xx

As of today I am officially late, based on the last 3 cycles. Still been having af cramps so either my cycles are returning to a normal length or I could be getting a bfp soon.

Can't even test cus I stayed at my parents last night for my mum's birthday. It's gonna be a loooong day.

Still keep checking for af every half hour!

I've had positives after negatives, yes. In three of my pregnancies I didn't get a result until 15-20 dpo. Starting levels of hcg can be a factor, also when implantation happens. If it was a little later the test would not show positive till later. Hope this makes sense.

Brain a little addled by no-show af.

Fingers crossed for all three of you. Sincerely hope it's your month . My ov is missing in action.... Apparently I'm 'high' chance of fertile tho (how without ov I do not know). [grumpy face]

I was starting to get my hopes up, and just like last mont, did the test and whilst waiting af arrived. Oh well guess my cycles are getting back to a normal length again.

Doom sorry to hear that, happened to me last month went to test and af showed.

Fingers crossed for the next cycle.

Got to ask Fuzzy, how can you tell that you've not ovulated if you're at a high chance. Asking so that I can try to tell myself next month x

As luck would have it, I'm next due to ovulate on my birthday 14th May which happens to be when I'm planning on being on holiday in Barcelona.

Hopefully the sunny weather and swanky hotel will help things along.

Lily I can feel when I ovulate, I get pains depending on which side they can be very painful and last about 24 hours for me. And my fertility monitor also at the same time ends up with the static smiley face. hasn't happened this month.

I think taking starflower oil has delayed ovulation, which will mean my LH phase will be really short. My cycles are also 25 days.

Kitty that holiday sounds amazing. Fingers crossed.

Af is here
Day 37 so was getting excited, stupidly. I've never been over 35 days before unless pregnant.

Sorry to hear that Temp, everything crossed for us all for the next cycle.

Ov still no show and DP is away over bank holiday. I really want to stop caring so much about whether this happens or not.

Sorry to hear your news Doom and Temp. I'm also out this month so have decided to take a completely new view on ttc next month and ditch the monitor and thermometer. Hopefully this will stop me obsessing so much (unlikely but hey I can kid myself for a few days).

Fuzzy is it possible that you missed the surge? I'm sure I've read that this can happen sometimes with the monitor.

Doom good luck for Barcelona. A change of scene could be exactly what you need.

Hi guys so I had written on this post a month or so ago.... Then after bfn me and dp felt we weren't ready to try as we have plans we want to fulfil.... Long story short.... We dtd about 5 days after my expected o and my AF was due today... Apart from sore boobs I've no other symptom!! I really don't want to poas as I'm scared of a bfn........

Oh good luck Spring. How long will you wait? My boobs tend to be sore at OV and then nothing right before AF shows...

I got the Ov surge today and dp is away, not back till Monday! Altho reckon my luteal phase will be short it's so late in my cycle.

Will you miss your chance this month?

I think I will wait till Monday.... I've waited this long lol!!! Dp isn't aware I'm late as at the time I was like naw I'm past ov so it can't happen!!!