All aboard the Feb bus, as we finally take off

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New bus ladies, bring on those Bfp's!

Very sorry to everyone struggling at the moment

I had no idea that cp existed before joining MN. When should we test to try to avoid knowing about them?

dojo hope you are ok. Have no advice just a virtual hug.

Sarky, sorry for the bfns after your positive, it sucks have you had tests?

Victoria, nice chilled cycle for you then.

Wishing, have you had any tests? Hope you're out of limbo land soon.

Sorry about your chemical dojo..not nice xx
N my fella has had aperm tests n he has everything oerfect except 1% morphology. I've got to have my bloods done on day 2,21 n 28 n im waiting for my appointment for the dye in my tubes zz

Oh yes i remember you saying now Wishing. I've had the same tests and now waiting for results and follow up appointment at clinic.

dojo I'm so sorry. And sarky too. The Feb bus has not been kind so far. Hopefully there will be some good news soon to spur us all on Xx

spinning I haven't no. I already have a 14mo DS so according to the HCP's there is no cause for concern. I will be asking them for an internal at the very least now though. I fear they may have done some damage with the forceps during my last MMC but that might just be me being a pessimist.

I keeping staring at my BFN and if I look extra carefully and shine a light through the back I can see just a hint of a line. I'm just torturing myself though. I know in my heart it won't amount to anything.

I will continue to sulk for the next few days and re-evaluate the situation. I don't want to stop TTC, Its all I can think about, but I don't want to keep hurting myself either. I think I just need some time to recover emotionally. It has been a really rough couple of months, but at the same time I don't want to miss a possible chance if I do give it a break. I have no problem getting pregnant. Out of my 4 possibly 5 pregnancies they have all happened on the first or second cycle. Its staying pregnant I seem to have the problem with.

Night, same here - I didn't know about CPs, although I did know that things can go wrong fairly early and sometimes the women don't even realise they were pregnant - if they have bleeding, they will just think it's an early or late period.

It makes me not want to test until pretty late, but frankly, I think a CP/early miscarriage is likely to happen in the first 5 or 6 weeks. By that time you're likely to know you're pregnant already, even if you've exercised super-human restraint by not POAS. It's a real double-edged sword, isn't it, to think you can find out you're pregnant but then lose it so soon after.

So sorry to read so many sad stories, Sparky give yourself some time and definitely look into any problems sooner rather than later, you shouldn't be expected to put up with all this heartache with no explanation or help to put it right. Get back down the GP with reinforcements and put your foot down, you deserve better.

I thought a cp when when an egg fertilized but failed to implant. So enough hcg is produced to detect if you test before af due but af arrives normal time. Different to an early mc. Correct me if I'm wrong :-)

hair my mum was also super fertile as I was conceived first cycle and my sister 2nd cycle. Was a bit tmi when she told me lol! Interesting to know though. She knows about our 2 year struggle but can't understand and says crap things like "it wasn't meant to be", cheers then.

Yes I think that's more or less the definition Victoria. Apparently the average woman will have many of these CP's in her life and never know because its like a normal period. The reason so many more women are now aware of these chemical pregnancies is because tests are getting more and more sensitive.

Austral like a malteaser do you?! Ha ha.

Spinning that sounds really good!! Is that another from your new book?

Boosk I should be around v day too! Fingers crossed for all on this bus!

Sarky so sorry to hear this. if i were you and it is something you really want you should push for tests. You Are entitled to it.

Oz sounds like a good lot of symptoms to me!! Fingers crossed for you!!!

Purdey yehhh! Time to AI! Get on it! Nah no stage fright from Mr Purdey..no chance! Did you get a bit of my cake?! We are doing tonight again then missing a day then thurs. My temp hasn't dropped low like it usually would today after two CB smiles so I'm hoping I still OV! Time will tell...

Oh Dojo I'm so sorry to hear that. What a roller coaster of emotions for you. Did you take another test? Some people do spot in early pg sending

Thanks for the explanation ladies. I genuinely had no idea how unsuccessful so many pregnancies are, I had no idea of cp and thought that miscarriage was extremely rare! These buses have taught me a lot. I think that I will just have to be very strict and not test until I have actually missed a period.

Well I did another CB+ this morning against my DH advise. And it was a negative. Still hadn't bled up until then.
Went to the loo around 9:30 and when I wiped notice some bright pink spotting.
Just went to the loo again now and nothing. Now showing or spotting and nothing in the pad I popped in my knickers.
Really don't know what's going on. Head is a bit fucked really. I'm not in any pain and I'm not cramping.

Dojo can you call your doctor? Was the test you used to confirm a positive a frer? They are more sensitive than CB. So sorry you are in limbo, it's horrible

Thanks victoria, yes I think I was mixing up CP and early miscarriage - sorry night! Ignore me and listen to victoria instead!

Not a problem Sweets just reinforces how much more complex it is than I thought!

This week seems to be awful for so many of you. So sorry to be reading all of these posts. I really do hope things will look up.
I was wondering about something about ovulation day if you're not temping. Presuming it was correct my opk intimated a peak surge on the afternoon/evening of the 30th. Having no idea if I would be 12hr, 24hr, 36hr or 48hr kinda gal, when should I assume ovulation day was? Do you count dpo from LH surge test if you don't temp (making it the 30th and today 4dpo) or assume an average of eg 36hrs (making it the 1st and today 2dpo)?

sparkly no the test wasn't a FRER. I wasn't meant to be testing this morning anyway. I feel ok, no different from any other day apart from the fact that instead of nearing the end of my usual AF I'm not bleeding. I am now between 5&7 days late and completely confused.
My DH is messaging me (as we're both at work) asking me how I feel and I can honestly say I don't know. I don't feel anything. I'm not emotional (and I cry at everything) I'm not in any pain, I'm coldy but I have been for the past two and a half weeks. I feel kind of numb I suppose but if I was starting to miscarry (if I have been pregnant) or start AF I thought I would have felt more by now.

Sorry this is such a long post, just voicing my confusion if that's ok.

dojo things might just take a little while longer to get going if it is a CP. You're in limbo atm which is an awful place to be.. Hope you don't have to wait too much longer xx

dojo post away that's what we are here for. Just get it all out xxx

well, I think I missed it again this month. Apparantly OV'd on the 31st but didn't DTD until the 1st.

So now in the old TWW. test valentines day.

Lots of love and luck to everyone this month. xx

Dojo I'm so sorry you are going through this - Sarky too. I've just had a CP at 4w4d. Dojo mine started with spotting at around 7:30am on Friday but was in full flow by 4pm. I bled quite heavily but without much pain although with a few clots over the weekend and had spotting yesterday and again today (sorry if TMI!). Did you say you had a doctor's appointment tomorrow? Probably a good idea to get checked out. Spotting doesn't always means CP but your negative tests do perhaps suggest that. I really feel for you.

To the ladies wondering about chemicals - my understanding is that HCG is only produced after implantation and only shows up on a HPT 2/3 days after implantation at the earliest. With a CP, there has been implantation of sorts to bring on release of HCG - just not a sticky bean. FWIW I think the term - chemical - is awful. It is an early miscarriage and although it may not be as traumatic as later on - it's still a loss. You've calculated your due date and hoped for a sticky one. On balance - I'm glad I tested as at least I now know I'm ovulating. I also just "knew" I was pg before I tested - just a shame it didn't last.

Sorry to those struggling :(

I had a positive early test last month followed by negatives and AF was 2 weeks late. It was an awful roller coaster. I'm still not sure what was going on. But I need to be strong this month and not test early. I can't describe the rush of a positive only to have it taken away.

Thank you winter and glittery

mustbemad thank you, that means I could start bleeding more later.
I've just phone 111 and they have advised that as I'm not in any pain or discomfort to just continue with my Drs appt tomorrow morning. And maybe I'll then have a few more answers.

This TTC malarkey is a bit of a roller coaster isn't it!

Let us know how you get on dojo - I will be thinking of you xx