Get your ROC's off, Get your ROC's off honey! Knickers down, legs up and capes on in the competition for SOTM! Just Shagging part 22 - the one with all the BFPs!

[DulcetMoans]

Ladies, Fred title says it all; we are the ones who shag as much as our men can cope with in order to get upduffed without the stress of scientific whatnots!

Fred rules (copied from previous Fred)

1. Thou shalt shag as much as humanly possible in order to get upduffed.
2. Thou shalt not partake of OPKs, temping, or charting.
3. Thou shalt keep symptom spotting to a minimum.
4. Thou shalt share with your fredmates where needed.

JSing lingo

ERTD = Evil Red Tide of Dooooooommmmmmm. Or AF to most others.

Viroid = This is you, dear poster. This is from the first JS thread when someone tried to type 'ladies' and it autocorrected to 'Viroids' - so there you go!

Pant snot = Egg white cervical mucus.

Doing a kitten = Getting upduffed soon after joining (warning: may induce envy in other posters).

POAS = Pee On A Stick (of the pregnancy detecting kind, not from a tree). Also known as PIAR (Pee In A Ramekin - cos we're posh birds innit). Or PIATLH (Tea light holder) PIAWG (Wine glass) or anything else you care to pee in!

Shagging like something = JSing like a teenage nymphomaniac.

Giving a hooya = Giving a much needed slap to a fellow poster in danger of slipping into ttc obsession.

Contraband = Of COURSE none of us EVER partake of any silly OPKs or temp charting. They are Contraband.

Icing = ovulating. Another autocorrect development!

Getting your Cape on = planning some serious pouncing on DH/DP

TWOT - Two Weeks of Torture!

The link to Part 21 is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2007110-Drop-all-things-contraband-we-dont-want-youre-OPKs-here-Grab-a-cape-stroke-the-unicorn-and-reserve-your-spot-in-the-pity-Jacuzzi-Its-JUST-SHAGGING-THREAD-21" target="_blank">here</a>

The current Grads Fred is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1817751-Just-Shagging-Grads-Fred-8-Roll-up-roll-up-all-Viroids-welcome" target="_blank">here</a>

The rather nobbish article in which we became a little bit notorious is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/the-dark-side-of-mumsnet-my-shocking-tour-of-the-websites-nether-regions-8905055.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a> 

Happy shagging shaggers!

Wil, I'm the same you know, some weeks of my cycle are MUCH worse than others. I've especially noticed that in the past year or so. I always used to know when AF was coming because the week before I'd be bordering on suicidal!

Who will talk me down from the diving board over the pity pool? ERTD is here in CD bloody 24! What the fuck is wrong with me?! That's 23, 33 and 24 in the last three months.

I have tried fixing this with chocolate and it's not worked. What next?!

Hi again ladies - esp ones I've not met here before - sorry for my silence the last few days, have been on holiday. Whoop! Just a few days with family in Arran (Scottish island) but v relaxing. Now approaching the TWOT, I think...
Checked back thorough the last few pages, but no bfps to report, is that right? Hope everyone is well anyway, and that those who are going in for tests and what-not get good results.
Re depression and conceiving/pregnancy... I know a bit about this due to my involvement in various maternal mental health charities (and the fact that if we got pg again I will have to make some serious choices about medication etc). I think there are mixed views on fluoxetine (Prozac) but that Setraline is generally considered ok. You have to weigh up minuscule risks of harm to foetus against possibly larger risks of mother's mental health deteriorating.

Hi Dulcet - how annoying for you! Was the 33 day one an anomaly then? Had it been that long before? Could it have been a chemical pg?
My cycles tend to be 24-25 days, so pretty short... Means we can get cracking on again sooner, I guess!
Don't jump into that pity pool!

33 was a blip, only had it that long once before. There was no BFP so don't think it was chemical. I was at fertility clinic in Jan telling him I am 27-29 days but haven't been that since. Even before, looking back at app I have been somewhere between 26-30 days.

Oh, and in checking app I am actually CD23 today. Also means one last chance before back to clinic next month for the dildo cam

It's fucking shit Dulcet but actually if it was going to come anyway, better it comes early so you can get TWOT over sooner and get cracking again. And you probably need wine/gin instead of chocolate. I have eaten so much chocolate that I feel pukey. I actually really want wine but am abstaining 'just in case' . I also have had some suspect cramps tonight so I wonder if mine will come earlier than expected too.

I love Arran Kat. Haven't been for a while. That's right, no BFPs....yet! we're saving them up for the 500 messages mark. Kat, if your cycles are that length, what CD do you ovulate on (roughly)? Do you start DTD as soon as AF has gone? [nosy face]

Juniper if you're reading this, can I ask, there seem to be quite a few people on MN with Juniper in their username. Is it a thing or just a coincidence?

Dulce that is so annoying! I think you're allowed to wallow in the pity pool for a day at least! (I had two ;-) ) If you're only 8dpo then your luteal phase was very short, too short I think for anything to implant. Sounds like it was just an anomaly though. Dildo cam sounds a bit scary

Kat, fluoxetine or tricyclics are ok- seems to be the general consensus on google! Tricyclics are a bit old fashioned now though I think.

Curry was awesome.

hey wil, I have noticed this too, it's not a thing that I'm part of! I should change it really - it's completely different to any of my other internet handles for a good reason! - but I don't like being so easily confused with people who are not me.

Got measured for a new bra today - my boobs appear to have doubled in size. Maybe I'll change my name to JuniDD.

Hey all
Yeah, I think I might hang here for a lil bit, it's scary in the other thread right now
Great news about the house Min! It feels like forever since you had your offer accepted!! Why does buying houses take so damn long?!
Damn the witch Dulcet! At least you can have a guilt free boozy weekend, right?
Re: smears, I had one at 6dpo on the cycle I got upduffed! It was weird, I already felt like I might be pregnant, so I asked the nurse if it would be a problem as I could be. She was like yeah, even if you happen to be, it won't disturb anything. She much have thought I was such a naïf! Well in your face nurse lady, I was pregnant!
If Juniper had the same... Well Min maybe you should get smearing ASAP!

How far gone are you now Ness?

I've gone back to look at my book.... there isn't a single reference in there to back up the "depression reduces your fertility" statement. The studies quoted are mostly about how women being treated for infertility are more depressed than fertile controls... and depression can affect ivf outcomes. The scientist in me wishes I had paid proper attention to this earlier!

Anyway on that bombshell have a fab weekend all x

Hi, I changed my name.
I'm sure I read someone else on MN (or a couple of people) got BFPs after smear tests. Crack on gals!

Stay here ness! xx

Hi gals, just catching up but we got the call that one of the two fertilized -- so we're still in the game! I am feeling so hopeful that this one is a fighter. This embryo could keep growing. It could be normal, with the right number of chromosomes. It could also crap out at any point or just not work. But I’m trying to keep my mind in a very, very good place until I get more news, which won’t be until Monday.

I talked to my doctor today. She called me. She was really sympathetic I think she actually said "this just sucks" but was glad to hear I was feeling more optimistic and keeping myself busy She spoke to the embryologist and some of the follicles were just empty (or at least they were unable to get an egg out of them). She said it is random and I could not have the same issue next month. I just keep getting dealt a shitty hand. She said she's very hopeful for our embryo and keeping everything crossed, and that she or my nurse will touch base on Monday and we'll take it from there.

So now it is the waiting game again.

Ok scrolling up to catch up!

8+4
Awwww, like the new name Juni, but I love Juniper It's actually one of my favourites on my current 'possible girls names' list!

Good news Red!!! Not what you hoped for, but still lots of chance for this to come off ok. Everything crossed for you!! Xx

Great to hear from you red. I am willing that egg/blasto to do what its told and behave for you. Really glad all ok so far. xx

OK I think I’m caught up. Phew! Sorry I disappeared. I got the call on my way to a lunch date yesterday, then I went the spa and spoiled myself silly, then I had a dinner date. Today I had lunch with a friend and we got our nails done. Keeping busy :)

Nice news about the house Min!

RPopz, those sticks ARE expensive. I just passed my monitor and sticks forward to a friend who’s trying. Just collecting dust here at my place. As for the doctor’s appointment, ugh. Maybe it is worth sometimes fudging the truth a little bit about how long you’ve been trying just to get the ball rolling? As far as the meds...you have to do what’s right for you. Mental health is so important. Perhaps counseling will be the ticket. My DH sees someone once a week and it has significantly helped him with his anxiety. But I know everyone is different.

I really want Indian food tonight now. Yum.

We really do need some BFPs around here!!

Thanks nessa and juni -- I am thinking the best possible thoughts that our little blob is doing everything it is supposed to be doing down at the lab!

Ladies how has this not come to light before?! I am booking myself in as soon as there is a whiff of AF. Hmm that was a bad choice of words.

You are doing great at keeping busy and staying positive Red. Fingers and toes crossed for the blob!

Sorry juniper, didn't mean to make you change your name! Although good to flaunt those DDs .

Nessa I also think on those threads that everybody's paranoia is apparent and it ends up freaking you out because people are worried all the time. Stay with our sensible bunch .

Hi wil just to answer earlier q yes we do get it on as soon as ERTD has left the building... Guess it means no fading about waiting for ov sticks / mucus / whatever trick to tell me I'm ov-ing...

Sadly I think it also means my eggs may not be as youthful or abundant as my relative youth (almost 34!) would suggest... According to FC chat, anyway... :(. But it only takes the one, eh!

On that note Red I wish your little blast every success over the weekend! Good luck. X

Morning girls.
red it only takes one little frembryo, so he's our guy! C'mon team let's cheerlead together.
Go blasto!

Go blasto!
Go forth and multiply!

I'm 11dpo and know this month hasnt been successful, spotty beyond belief, and not much breadstixk action.
But on the great side, looks like we may be in by may!

Wooo hoooo

Oh and juniDD nice name, hate to think what I'd go up to tho, I'm a DD already.
Scary! We

Nice name JuniDD!

Brilliant news Red, everything crossed for you again!

hi gang. sorry, I'm a bit behind and on phone so will comment on the stuff I remember but have already forgotten who said what!

re depression I have also read it affects fertility but cant remember where. I do remember it referenced ivf too. I think it was on the impatient woman's guide to getting pregnant book. and when I was prescribed citalopram last year I was told not to ttc. yeah right like I'm going to turn that off!

congrats on the house min. but I have to ask if uve signed contracts and paid deposit why still a month to wait? normally I'd exchange a week after signing and complete a week after that tops?

jealous of the double D's although I'm a D one end if the month at least

nessa stay here with our crazy, it will make u feel normal!

red I'm cheerleading too...
Go lil embie go, grow grow!
glad to hear you have returned to calm and are spoiling yourself

kat hope ur hol was lovely and refreshing. we go abroad in 3 weeks and have just booked another hol for Oct. if I don't have a baby to look forward to then I'll create things to look forward to!

on cycle lengths mine are all over the place so glad to know my bloods showed ov. if I ov "early" - cd14 like last month - I will definitely be on holiday for cd7-10 so won't be able to do hsg, so I'm hoping for cd18 or later ov (was cd25 the month before!) so that I'll be back and able to do it! the last 2months have been my 2nd longest and my shortest so ranging from 28-47 here!

no news here really. cd11 and still not DTD yet this month. did find out this morning dh, ahem, cleared himself out midweek so at least he isn't carrying month old swimmers around. when the cats away eh! going on a bit of a road trip today and I have a cold but hopefully the cape will go on tonight! I sometimes wonder if we'd be celibate if we weren't ttc!

lil it's because I rent so need to give a months notice, 3 at the min so we'd have a week to move and clean the apartment.
They foofed around so much taking their sweet time, we could have moved end of this month but they didn't, so they are going to have to wait now.
Not that I want to. I'm off to measure up house today and take some pics so natch I'm like a kid at Chrimbo!

I've always had citalopram Lil, I don't think I'll ask for it this time though. I gather the risk is mininal with them all but citalopram is transferred in high levels in breast milk. But you can always swap if you do fall pregnant.

Get JSing missus ;-)