Get your ROC's off, Get your ROC's off honey! Knickers down, legs up and capes on in the competition for SOTM! Just Shagging part 22 - the one with all the BFPs!

[DulcetMoans]

Ladies, Fred title says it all; we are the ones who shag as much as our men can cope with in order to get upduffed without the stress of scientific whatnots!

Fred rules (copied from previous Fred)

1. Thou shalt shag as much as humanly possible in order to get upduffed.
2. Thou shalt not partake of OPKs, temping, or charting.
3. Thou shalt keep symptom spotting to a minimum.
4. Thou shalt share with your fredmates where needed.

JSing lingo

ERTD = Evil Red Tide of Dooooooommmmmmm. Or AF to most others.

Viroid = This is you, dear poster. This is from the first JS thread when someone tried to type 'ladies' and it autocorrected to 'Viroids' - so there you go!

Pant snot = Egg white cervical mucus.

Doing a kitten = Getting upduffed soon after joining (warning: may induce envy in other posters).

POAS = Pee On A Stick (of the pregnancy detecting kind, not from a tree). Also known as PIAR (Pee In A Ramekin - cos we're posh birds innit). Or PIATLH (Tea light holder) PIAWG (Wine glass) or anything else you care to pee in!

Shagging like something = JSing like a teenage nymphomaniac.

Giving a hooya = Giving a much needed slap to a fellow poster in danger of slipping into ttc obsession.

Contraband = Of COURSE none of us EVER partake of any silly OPKs or temp charting. They are Contraband.

Icing = ovulating. Another autocorrect development!

Getting your Cape on = planning some serious pouncing on DH/DP

TWOT - Two Weeks of Torture!

The link to Part 21 is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2007110-Drop-all-things-contraband-we-dont-want-youre-OPKs-here-Grab-a-cape-stroke-the-unicorn-and-reserve-your-spot-in-the-pity-Jacuzzi-Its-JUST-SHAGGING-THREAD-21" target="_blank">here</a>

The current Grads Fred is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1817751-Just-Shagging-Grads-Fred-8-Roll-up-roll-up-all-Viroids-welcome" target="_blank">here</a>

The rather nobbish article in which we became a little bit notorious is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/the-dark-side-of-mumsnet-my-shocking-tour-of-the-websites-nether-regions-8905055.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a> 

Happy shagging shaggers!

Viroids! I'm still here! I've been lurking. Had my broken innards remodelled last week, all feeling ok. Not supposed to ahem, put anything in there for another 3 weeks, but it feels fine so tempted to jump on dh as icing this weekend according to my app. Don't know if that would be really foolish.

Not much to report really. Found out two of my team at work are shagging, both married with kids (one of them on second marriage), so that's given me something to deal with to distract from cervix-gate. I'd have ignored it only they are enjoying each others company during work time so I need to do something. Not really sure how to start that convo.

How many bfps have I missed? I didn't see much of the whole of the last fred as I was immersed in the pity pool.

Red massive hugs, one of these two might be the one. Sorry there is so much frigging waiting involved. Will keep everything crossed for you.

Hi to all the newbies! Love XXX

x posted red as it took me so long to write mine. Really hope you get The Call soon and it's good news.

p.s what a ROCs?

Hi essie. It's 'receptacle of choice'. There is quite a range of apparatus used for peeing in it would seem.

Remodelling of innards sounds intriguing yet uncomfortable. Hope you are ok. You must keep us updated on work scandal!

Hope you had good news today Red. My work sucks today.

Any news yet red? I so hope they have called you.

Excellent news on the insides reconfiguration essies. And I am sure I am not the only one that needs more details on the workplace shaggers!

I have a long weekend now. Bliss. First day off since Jan and looking forward to it. And I offered someone a job in my team today so that was a happy end to the week. making up for the other shit though. What is wrong with people?!

Hi Essie... enjoying each other's company at work eh! What a wonderful turn of phrase! Just a little bit awkward then....

Red, I hope you have some news. Fx for you.

So had my Drs app today and predictably she said they won't do anything investigative until we've been trying for a year. The medication she wanted to prescribe me for anxiety is not safe for ttc and first trimester pregnancy.... and she didn't think any antidepressants were 100% safe during ttc/ pregnancy. So she's sent me away to research and decide and I have to go back in two weeks. She also said she didn't think that depression impaired fertility (which I have got from somewhere that it does!) unless it becomes so severe that you physically stop ovulating (which I don't think I have). Have I been panicking over a misapprehension all this time!?

My clearblue monitor has arrived... the fricking sticks to put in it cost almost as much as it cost!! No more Boots for me, will be buying them online next time! (Hopefully won't be a next time....)

Hope everyone else has had a good day!

Hey there viroids I miss you lot! My antenatal thread is freaking me out, there's like a miscarriage every day Trying to keep positive!!
Glad you've headed out of the pity pool & dried off Essie, hope you can get your cape on soon!
Got everything crossed for you Red, hope the two little uns are fighting fit xxx

Essie I missed you! glad you've been remodelled now. I'd say wait the 3 weeks though. they will have said that for a reason and you'd hate to do something now that will hinder you later! I too need updates on the work sheshaganans!

red I hope you haven't posted because you are celebrating

peed in my ROC this morning for my contraband cbfm and really need a new one...I can't look at it and not think penis beaker now!

in other news sil is doing my head in with all her pregnancy/child related posts. like, get a life off Facebook and stop annoying me! rant over, thanks I needed to get that out!

Haha you've finally admitted it Lil . Hide your SIL's posts. It will help to stop the rage.

nessa I am sure you will be fine. I actually still check the thread a bit because I enjoy torturing myself and the mc that I have seen on there have all had the typical bleeding and the lack of symptoms. I don't know if it's the same for everyone but I knew something wasn't right from the start whereas with my first pg, even though I worried about stuff, I felt deep down that things were ok and I could imagine having my baby. This time I couldn't picture it at all. Maybe stop reading for a bit if it's causing you stress?

Rpopz I don't know if depression affects fertility or not. I do know that GPs are often not aware of all the research though. Have you been on ADs before? Some people definitely take them throughout pregnancy as it's deemed more harmful for them to not be on their medication so there must be some which are safer. I personally don't like to be on them (in general, not for ttc reasons) - although I think they are useful if you get to the stage where you really can't function anymore. Did she talk to you about other ways of coping or offer to refer you?

Happy Friday everyone!

Hi essie I'm waving maniacally! we've missed you!
Get thee cape of girl and go forth and shag! So glad you are back in the fold.
ness don't let others experiences worry you! Easier said than done I know, but stress is not good, stay here for a while and surround yourself with our eternal PMA and hope.
red I'm on tenterhooks waiting sister! I know it's night time in NJ but sod sleeping, come back to us, either that or I hope your getting merry with good news.

Well I've just phoned docs for results from day 21 (23) bloods and thyroid is within normal levels, and serum progesterone is 48.9. Been looking on here and they say anything over 10 indicated ovulation, they prefer over 30 so mines a good'un.
Bout bleeding time I say.
But it does once again mean I'm still none the wiser. When I thought it was the thyroid at least I could blame that!
Balls. And she uttered the immortal phrase 'oh while I've got you here, our records show you're overdue for a smear'
Double balls!

Morning morning morning!

Red Any news??

Thanks for the warm welcome back.

Afraid I couldn't resist my DH charms. However, as he has had to abstain for quite some time it lasted about 3 seconds . So doubt any harm done. After previous ops I've felt really delicate and the last thing I've wanted is him anywhere near me so the fact everything feels normal this time has to be a good sign.

Urgh, the workplace shaggers have been found out by the MD so it's all escalated and being dealt with by the powers that be. Thank goodness. One of them is working on a really high profile project so MD really mad that this fella has taken his focus off the job.

Be back in a bit to finish my post...

Sorry about that. Back now.

Minion, great the bloods came back good. Sorry about the smear though. Think of me when you go. I've had 11 in the last 3 years! About time someone else had a turn! What will they do next though now they've done bloods and they are good? I never got past that stage and have decided to park it all til my 6 month post cervix-gate checkup. if I can last that long

Wilhel nice to meet you that's quite a name!

Dulcet hope you are enjoying your day off.

Rpopz nice to meet you as well sorry your GP was not all that helpful. I think its a bit broad brush to say ‘depression doesn’t affect fertility’, and whether it is or not in your case, and regardless, she should offer you some help or solutions. I hope you are ok.

Nessa - yay! Congrats! I missed your BFP. Really pleased for you. Hearing about mcs would make me scared too. Stay here for now with us and the unicorns. Do we still have unicorns?

lil the whole of facebook does my head in as time goes by it becomes less facebook and more mybabiesfacebook. I’m afraid as soon as the scan photo comes up I hide people from my newsfeed. Do it, it will make you feel much better.

Bon weekend everyone! X

Well I feel terribly productive on my day off so far. But bit unsure what to do now... And want to cook something nice for tea since DH is working. Any suggestions?

The unicorn still pops up essie, we take turns to stroke and ride! (not in the JSer way, a genuine unicorn ride).

Great news on the bloods min! Do you get a follow up appointment to discuss what is next? I don't feel I have a conclusive answer on the levels the bloods should be! My FC doc said over 30 as well though so that looks great!

red, where are you?! I hope you are ok!

I estimate myself to be 8DPO. Am I meant to feel something by now if pg? Not much going on down there besides some cramping which is probably normal

I think I probably still have to have the three cycles of bloods to see if there is a pattern.
But the receptionist didn't day either way. I probably should have asked huh? Oops

Sounds like good news Min. I also need a smear but it's quite hard to shoe-horn it in when ttc. I presume you have to get the window between AF and ov? But it's so hard to get an appointment in time once AF arrives.

I don't know if you're supposed to Dulcet, it's probably (and annoyingly) different for everyone. If I can remember last time, I felt like I might be but did a test which was BFN so assumed I wasn't but was then BFP a week/10 days later. I can't remember what made me feel like I might be though. I did get cramps after the BFN and assumed they were pre-AF pains. I think probably 8 days PO is quite early for symptoms. Sore boobs seems to be the first real sign for me.

I'm glad I never put my scan pic on fb. I think at the time I just thought it was oversharing (says the person who was happily discussing CM two days ago) but now I realise how fucking annoying and hurtful it might be to some people. Although I am quite guilty of putting up the odd baby/toddler photo which I suppose isn't really any different.

God can you imagine how mortifying it would be to be told off by your bosses for shagging?! Do you think their significant others will find out?

Wil Hoping the sig others won't find out and they end it now, cos there's a lot of kids involved.

Min do you have to have 3 consec months of bloods before they proceed any further!? I had my one good 21 day result and thought that was it. Bliddy hell I might go back to my head in the sand approach, only I worked out yesterday I am on cycle 17. How the hell did that happen?!

Dulcet How about a pie? I always feel a bit smug when I've made a pie from scratch.

wil receptionist said about 10 days past ERTD to sched in smear. Must do some pruning in that case eh?
essie yeah I think so, not totes sure though. Ill phone them Monday to get the lowdown tho.

Oooohhh viroids, mucho exciting news going on in minions hood! Remember when I said about finding the house etc? Just this minute got back from post office to send back our contract and transferred the fees just now, it's finally happening!
Weeeeeeee

Woooooooooo Min, exciting stuff! This calls for

And yes 10 days post ERTD is optimum time for smear but they can do it any time as long as no spotting or bleeding as that contaminates sample apparently.

So, forgive my ignorance, but what if you're already pregnant by then? or are you supposed to stop trying for that month?

FAB news about the house Min!

I think you can have a smear when you are pg and certainly it's ok at that early stage. I had mine bang on ov time and dtd that night. Partly feel a bit of a rummage helped "open" things up for the swimmers! So I recommend!

ooh really I'll give it a bash then! I was due one last time I was pg but they said I couldn't have it until after I had given birth. I was already about 8 weeks by that time though so maybe it is ok initially.

Woooah, lots to catch up on here! :-)

Wil, I've had depression my entire adult life and have taken ADs before. Time in between them is usually a steady decline down into needing them again in order to act like a normal human being! So a long term solution would be preferable but the NHS are not so forthcoming. The GP has referred me for counselling again so we shall see. Did a bit of googling last night about ADs in pregnancy and the results were inconclusive! Still have another fortnight before my next app to decide I suppose. I read in a ttc book about the depression impairing fertility thing, which put the fear of bejebus into me. I think I need to go back to that book and look for an actual reference for that statement. I think the only reason I would want to go back on ADs this time, is if it were in fact impairing my fertility, because I don't currently feel as out of control as I have previously. But then I have this magical idea currently that when I fall pregnant all my anxiety and depression issues will disappear.... suspect will not be the case!

Essie this GP was actually a lot more helpful than the last who said "its just the way you are, you're just a careful person...." .....WTF. Bless your hubby. I always kind of find it a bit endearing when that happens... just me? Lol.

Min good news about the blood tests. Never thought about smears and ttc before... I've only just finished having 6 monthly ones after a colposcopy last year... erk. Glad I'm not the only one who prunes for these occasions hehe! And awesome news about the house! Have you already found a place to buy? I love looking at houses... (hate every other part of the process!)

Dulce, prob a bit early? Fx for you.

Lil glad i'm not the only one with the contraband cbfm. Just getting to know mine!

Hope I haven't missed anyone out. Should be cooking tea for Mr Rpopz but the Indian takeaway is calling. Espesh since I have to work tomorrow which by the way should be ILLEGAL.

x

I kinda went for pie essie, it's shepards pie. Cooking now. Yum!
I had two lots of bloods so far but thats because the level was too low first time. Lower second time... Don't think they all make you do three lots.

It is way too early rpopz, just feel like time has slowed down at this end of the cycle. Bored of waiting and nothing going on. Good call on the Indian though. You deserve it!

Yay on the house min, when will you be in?!

You never know RPopz. Aside from the 3 months of nausea and tiredness, I felt AMAZING during my pg. Instead of the constant up and down of moods each month (my depression is really affected by my cycle), I just felt this constant calm and happiness. Didn't get pissed off at DP all the time and just generally felt relaxed. I am really hoping that I get that next time round. If I could discover what made the difference I would bottle it. Unfortunately it doesn't last after giving birth!

Oh I am stoopid. I didn't read it properly Min... yay on the new house! Though it just said you'd sold!