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resipsa · 28/02/2014 20:53

Over here...

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vallinnapod · 07/04/2014 10:27

nobeer I have two CB digitals and a few hundred Internet cheapies and after ET my clinic will give me one too Blush

Tame I am on 10mg progynova, 100mg estrogen patches daily, 75mg asprin, 40mg clexane. And finding out today if we are adding Viagra.

vallinnapod · 07/04/2014 11:16

Lining 6.6 today but a different sonographer so taking it as no change. Still looks good quality but it all feels depressing. Adding Viagra and have another scan on weds. Feeling sorry for myself.

Bearsandhoney · 07/04/2014 12:09

Oh dear, I cannot imagine how difficult the boys due date must have been for you. As someone I have thought if as remarkably strong and a real inspiration, nevertheless this will have hit you like a ton of bricks. I'm just so pleased that you have a baby safely inside you now. Xx

Val: it sounds like they are giving you a lot to try and plump your lining. Have your tried making sure that you are getting the blood flowing (walking etc) and I also have heard that taking vit e can help. I'm sending you thickening vibes, and hope you feel a little brighter.

No beer: having been relatively restrained in the menkulling and symptom spotting, I am driving myself round the bend today. I hope you are doing better than me... Have you thought when you might do it?

I have taken some time off work and am hanging out with my DS for the duration. I debated whether this was a good idea as I find work keeps me busy and without the time to focus on the 2ww (and subsequent results) but i needed to take holiday or may end up loosing it. I woke up feeling really rough, and slightly nauseous this morning (and admit to feeling mildly excited and hopeful) but this has developed into full blown pmt symptoms (aching belly an lower back, tiredness etc). If I wasn't taking so much of the progesterone I would've started my period yesterday/today and feel that this is what my body is wanting to do. As i think this is our last attempt, i am terrified of another BFN and what that means. of course I of want to test, but then again I really, really don't. I just want to see those 2 lines. All this effort: for 2 little lines. It's such a simple result after such a complex process. Oh the irony.

tametortie · 07/04/2014 12:20

Val- are you having acupuncture???

Bearsandhoney · 07/04/2014 12:57

Oh yes: I've heard acu is very good for lining thickening too!

tametortie · 07/04/2014 14:51

And perhaps a heat pad??? Get the blood flowing??

Orgasms are good for blood flow too but I have no evidence this will help your lining....

I have also heard vitamin e is good.

Viagra will surely help.

Have you had issues with lining before??

vallinnapod · 07/04/2014 16:14

Thanks ladies - yes, this is an issue for me. With DS it only got to 7.3 and the successful implantation, if not pregnancy, in the summer it was 7.5. My first couple of FETs were abandoned as we couldn't get it right and my last two IVFs never went to transfer as my lining had deteriorated.

I am having acupuncture, gentle exercise etc, etc, etc.

Have taken my first Viagra and not a sniff of an erection Wink

Bearsandhoney · 07/04/2014 19:33

Out of interest van, would you say that acupuncture has made any difference? I've had problems with my lining and only ever reached about 7.5 prior to transfer (which my consultant seemed happy with Blush). I have considered acu (and kind of tried it last year but I was in between cycles so couldn't know if it made a difference.

Bearsandhoney · 07/04/2014 19:34

Meant val ... Who is van? Smile

tametortie · 07/04/2014 19:49

Ever had an endometrial biopsy?

My uk clinic takes a sam

tametortie · 07/04/2014 19:52

Waaaahhhh!!!

Ple and checks the cell structure as part of their repeated implantation failure tests.

vallinnapod · 07/04/2014 20:00

No, I might ask this time if it gets abandoned.

Acupuncture-wise, I have always had it, on all cycles - bar the one FET I got a BFN on...lining-wise though there was no difference.

vallinnapod · 07/04/2014 20:06

Bit weepy here tonight Sad Just a bit over it. I desperately want my life back. I don't want any more IVF but I don't want not to have another baby either. My life centres around the current/next cycle and it is driving me nuts.

nobeer · 07/04/2014 20:20

tame my dr is doing a study into this! She tried to take a sample from my but my cervix wasn't playing ball and wouldn't let her in. It was the day before FET.

tametortie · 07/04/2014 21:08

I had it done and the results were good apart from the nk cells. They look at the way the lining is layered in cell types.

I have a lining scan on Friday. All this talk about it is making me nervous!!

vallinnapod · 07/04/2014 21:17

Tame - apart from NK cells, what else could it tell you?? Dr Google hasn't been very forthcoming.

tametortie · 07/04/2014 21:18

I'll get a link to the nurture study....

tametortie · 07/04/2014 21:24

cant link but will paste....

What is involved?

Our 'comprehensive implantation screening service', or "CISS" for short, includes a personal consultation during which your records will be reviewed, a detailed 3D ultrasound scan of the womb conducted, a series of blood tests performed, and a sample of the lining of the womb (an endometrial biopsy) taken all precisely timed with your menstrual cycle.

• Your notes and past experiences are arguably the most important part of the story and we will look through these to double check nothing has been missed and that there are no obvious causes that need treatment in their own right.

• The 3D ultrasound scan is something we have developed over the last 10 years and are internationally renowned for. We use 3D to look at the shape of your womb, exclude any obvious abnormalities and assess the blood flow.

• The blood tests look for a heightened immunity (autoimmune screen), thyroid disorders, sticky blood that has a greater tendency to clot (thrombophilia screen), and your own genetic make-up (a karyotype). The latter test is for both partners.

• The sample of the lining of the womb (an endometrial biopsy) is an exciting new test which allows us to measure the numbers and proportions of cells within the womb that control and govern implantation and the early stages of pregnancy, the most important of which are the natural killer (NK) cells. These cells can be measured in your blood but it is the cells in the womb that are the key. We are doing this part of the work in partnership with Professors Siobhan Quenby and Jan Brosens from the University of Warwick who are one the World's leading teams in the field of research into miscarriage.

This list is not exhaustive and additional tests may be suggested and undertaken after consultation.

Who should consider these tests?

Typically we would not recommend these tests unless you have had two or more miscarriages or two unsuccessful IVF cycles. However any couple or woman worried about their fertility potential in this context might want to consider some or all of the tests outlined above to provide reassurance or, in some cases, identify why they are not getting pregnant after IVF or are suffering pregnancy loss.

When I had my NK test done with Siobhan Quenby, the report included numbers of cells within the womb lining sample and there were lots of different types. Her reg said that problems with the womb lining make up can point to issues with implantation and thickening of the womb.

Jan Brosens is the guy that did my scratch a few weeks ago- lovely guy.

tametortie · 07/04/2014 21:27

I have had the 3D womb scan done at nurture too and it was excellent. Nick Raine-Fenning was able to look at every angle of my womb shape, my ovaries and was even able to tell me how many eggs I had got on my cycles. Amazing.

Don't weep Val xxxx

We all want to get off the rollercoaster now and again xxx

vallinnapod · 07/04/2014 21:35

Thanks Tame. If this goes tits up I think I will push for a good womb probing.

tametortie · 07/04/2014 21:46

Don't give up val. Xxx

There are so many answers and one of them may be yours.

nobeer · 07/04/2014 21:55

Thanks for Val.
I hate how it takes over life too.

tame I think my test was something different, testing the prostaglandins (I think that's a word). I'd copy and paste but it's in Spanish and my head aches too much to translate.

I've decided to be good and wait til OTD. I think I'm scared of knowing the result, so just delaying for a couple of days!

NoCupcakesOrCocktails · 07/04/2014 22:02

Ohdear yesterday must have been such a hard day for you ((hugs)) thinking of you xx ps the crinone sounds awful Hmm

Bears and Nobeer you have both done brilliant in the 2 week hell. I'm keeping everything crossed for BFPs for both of you. Good luck for tomorrow Bears if you do test.

Val and Tame I'm fascinated by all the lining talk as although I've got the opposite problem. I imagine my womb carpet is more like one of those hideous tatty furry rugs Grin
However it's the only problem they've ever found with me so I think that must be part of our problem.

I've started dieting today as I still haven't shifted the extra weight from my last cycle in July Shock I'm hoping to lose 8lbs in 4 weeks. I really hope I can do it as I've got no will power!

NoCupcakesOrCocktails · 07/04/2014 22:03

Val I meant to say I'm keeping everything crossed that your lining plays ball this time xx

Bearsandhoney · 07/04/2014 22:12

Sorry to hear you're feeling down val, it is very hard. I think we all understand on here. Xx