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Ski Sunday music ready, the BESH are Bobsleighing their way through the icy slopes of hope and despair to win their medals

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cherrycoconut · 25/01/2014 09:39

If you’re over 30, ttc over 12 months and wearing nipple tassels under your snowsuit then this just might be the thread for you - if you can prove yourself bitter and evil enough. We’ll be the judge of that. Don your snowsuit , cowbell ready - fill in the BESHtionnaire and prepare to meet our icy glare. This is a marathon, not a sprint.

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DolomitesDonkey · 03/02/2014 16:28

bugs/euro I once read on a thread of a new mum who whipped her knickers off before climbing on to the chair. "Madam, this is the dentist and that is not required". Force of habit.

TheBuggerlugs · 03/02/2014 17:59

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ControlGeek · 03/02/2014 19:43

Sorry bugs, 'twas the smell. Take some air freshener with you next time please? Wink

Glad your blockage has... erm... shifted Grin

Fabuluce · 03/02/2014 19:54

Feeling lighter Bugs??

TheBuggerlugs · 03/02/2014 20:04

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eurochick · 03/02/2014 20:19

We are very tonight!

Has anyone heard from hest? I'm a bit worried by the radio silence.

Fabuluce · 03/02/2014 20:32

No I keep looking at the Fred in expectation of news from Hest...wish she'd check in...

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lovesLemonDrizzleCake · 03/02/2014 20:43

Thanks for the fart update, bugs!

Popped in for hest too. Hope it's all ok!

HesterShaw · 03/02/2014 20:55

Hello my lovely hags. I'm so sorry, I didn't want to worry you.

I'm ok but have had a pretty awful day. Had a very upsetting text from my mother last night, so slept very poorly. Was worrying about everything, not least the weather. The storm got worse and worse and the drive to the hospital goes through a wooded valley which is often shut because of fallen trees and flooding. Well it has been this winter anyway. In the morning I woke up and found another text which was so awful it upset me greatly and got me all of a dither and a flap. I'd packed my bag the night before, but needed to put something in/take something out (can't remember which) and the consent forms tipped out of my bag and I didn't notice, so went without them. This was the one thing which they'd told me to take, or you couldn't have the EC. Before we went MrH said we needed to nip into town to see how the flooding was, and the damage is quite bad after the high tide and storm surge. Luckily all our property seems ok, but the forecast is very bad for tomorrow night, which is worrying. We're also very concerned that the move isn't moving along - we need to exchange by this Friday and the vendor seems to have gone AWOL.

Anyway I drove, despite feeling so hungry and thirsty, and the weather was so unbelievably awful, but at least it gave me something to do. When we got there I found I'd left the forms and had a panic attack and a total meltdown. They found me crying and panicking in a corridor so had to put me in a bed. They were very lovely but didn't know quite what to do. They phoned my home clinic, who faxed through the relevant forms. It took a while as there were so many. They must have thought I was a total fucking moron. Stress does turn me into an imbecile to be fair. Maybe mother has a point about me being stupid.

The consultant was quite impatient and kept telling me I HAD to calm down. I was trying my best, deep breathing, closed eyes and so on. MrH went off to produce the sample. It was all much scarier at this clinic than it sounds like it was at yours. They insisted on no clothes - backless gown, had to walk into theatre. They did all the prep while I was still wide awake - legs up, being cleaned (yuck). Oh and there were three attempts to get a cannula into my arm. I told her that they'd never find a vein on my left arm, but they did it anyway. Didn't work, so they did it my hand. Fuck that hurt. That didn't work either. The third time they tried the vein I told them to do the first time. Finally the sedation kicked in. I was listening to my CD and don't remember anything after Bach :). They got six eggs out anyway.

Afterwards they told us that MrH's sample, far from being as wonderful as we had always been told us, is actually pretty poor - 4% motility, so they will have to do ICSI. The embryologist kept asking us whether that was ok and did we object, which got me thinking that there was more to this than I thought there was. They will call tomorrow with how many fertilised.

All in all a total fucker of a day. I came back and pretty much passed out and am only now back up. Sorry if I worried you xxx

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HesterShaw · 03/02/2014 21:01

Silly isn't it? We were told 15% is average.

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HesterShaw · 03/02/2014 21:04

She will just hassle me and hassle me. I will send her an email after transfer telling her I do not intend having a relationship with someone who thinks it's ok to behave like this. She is welcome to change and prove to me she is trying to change and I would be willing to keep her in my life. But I don't intend continuing to be her whipping boy.

I can't actually believe I'm having to give her headspace today.

FrankelInFoal · 03/02/2014 21:15

Oh Hest you poor thing (((hugs))). I agree with Bugs, 4% sounds absolutely fine - HWHNN was told his 6% was "above average".

I'm sorry the clinic were not more sympathetic, you'd expect better of a place dealing with women in a fragile state of mind.

As for your mother, I wouldn't even bother emailing/texting her. Can you block her number on your phone? You are right that you deserve more than a relationship that only causes you hurt and distress. We all luffs you Smile

Fabuluce · 03/02/2014 21:23

. Time for calm now Hest after a shit storm of a day. Most important things to think about are you got eggs and you got Mr H's little fellas. They are all now doing their thing so you need to concentrate on looking after you. Is there any way you can just not answer the phone/block emails from your mother? This is absolutely time for you to look after you and not for dealing with selfish others. This is your time not theirs and they will just have to handle it somehow. YOU are most important.

HesterShaw · 03/02/2014 21:26

It's just her. Everyone else is fine. I would happily have no contact with her except she's my dad's carer and I love my dad.

JethroTull · 03/02/2014 21:40

iCSI is A Good Thing. Better fertilisation rates.

WrenNatsworthy · 03/02/2014 21:43

Lo hags.

Anyone for gin, and a grope of my norks?

RunLyraRun · 03/02/2014 21:45

. H what an absolute, unmitigated FUCKER of a day. I have EVERYTHING crossed for the next stage . Six eggs is shedloads - double what I had! We also had ICSI sprung on us on the day, and the whole "are you OK with that" discussion. And yes, it's not natural selection, so no, you wouldn't actively choose it, but when you're just coming round from sedation and the professionals are recommending it, what could you say except "yes"?!? Anyway, the evidence on it is fine, so try not to dwell on that. And I don't know what your Mum's game is but to be putting you through this at the moment...well, words fail me. Love you. .

eurochick · 03/02/2014 21:50

hest have the bream of bravery. What a fucker of a day. 6 eggs is brilliant. You have done it!

Your EC sounds similar to mine - it was being bucked into stirrups before I was knocked out that gave me flashbacks and panics after the first one and led to my going to hypnotherapy and then do it awake. I found it so distressing. I could cope with it more easily awake - it was being knocked out in such a vulnerable position that sent me over the edge. I hate the cleaning too. It seems to remove the last shred of dignity. Interestingly, the new woman dr I had for the last ET didn't do and I was so glad. And it doesn't seem to have done any harm. My chest tightened reading your post - it was all so familiar.

Was it 4% morphology? Cos I didn't think that was bad. I thought 4%+ was normal. One dr we spoke to said that samples produced when the men aren't really that turned on tend to be worse than normal, and I doubt a small room in a clinic when you know your distressed wife is outside really gets the juices flowing. In any event, ICSI will get them where they need to be.

And I cannot believe your flipping mother. What timing! Your email sounds extremely measured in the circumstances.

WrenNatsworthy · 03/02/2014 21:50

I wish I had looked on Mumsnet yesterday.

Well done for getting through it Hest. You are not stupid. You are bloody wonderful.

HesterShaw · 03/02/2014 21:53

Thank you lovely hags past and present. I am very touched (Wren, Lyra and Jethro I can't tell you what that means to me) I can't help comparing you, my lovely friends, with her. What the fuck is her problem?

HesterShaw · 03/02/2014 21:54

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