You can do it by charting, analysing, testing, and worrying, but we prefer... JUST SHAGGING PART 20!!

[Nessalina]

Ladies, Fred title says it all; we are the ones who shag as much as our men can cope with in order to get upduffed without the stress of scientific whatnots!

Fred rules (copied from previous Fred)

1. Thou shalt shag as much as humanly possible in order to get upduffed.
2. Thou shalt not partake of OPKs, temping, or charting.
3. Thou shalt keep symptom spotting to a minimum.
4. Thou shalt share with your fredmates where needed.

JSing lingo

ERTD = Evil Red Tide of Dooooooommmmmmm. Or AF to most others.

Viroid = This is you, dear poster. This is from the first JS thread when someone tried to type 'ladies' and it autocorrected to 'Viroids' - so there you go!

Pant snot = Egg white cervical mucus.

Doing a kitten = Getting upduffed soon after joining (warning: may induce envy in other posters).

POAS = Pee On A Stick (of the pregnancy detecting kind, not from a tree). Also known as PIAR (Pee In A Ramekin - cos we're posh birds innit). Or PIATLH (Tea light holder) PIAWG (Wine glass) or anything else you care to pee in!

Shagging like something = JSing like a teenage nymphomaniac.

Giving a hooya = Giving a much needed slap to a fellow poster in danger of slipping into ttc obsession.

Contraband = Of COURSE none of us EVER partake of any silly OPKs or temp charting. They are Contraband.

Icing = ovulating. Another autocorrect development!

Getting your Cape on = planning some serious pouncing on DH/DP

TWOT - Two Weeks of Torture!

The link to Part 19 is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1906908-Come-and-join-us-on-the-brand-new-rather-fabulous-and-very-slightly-notorious-or-so-wed-like-to-think-JUST-SHAGGING-PART-19" target="_blank">here</a>

The current Grads Fred is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1817751-Just-Shagging-Grads-Fred-8-Roll-up-roll-up-all-Viroids-welcome" target="_blank">here</a>

The rather nobbish article in which we became a little bit notorious is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/the-dark-side-of-mumsnet-my-shocking-tour-of-the-websites-nether-regions-8905055.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a> <img loading="lazy" class="inline-flex mumsnet-emoji" alt="Grin" src="https://www.mumsnet.com/build/assets/grin-D7Eg_B6y.png">

Happy shagging shaggers!

Oh and (rant nearly over ) I didn't realise u had to take temp at same time ! Plus my temp when googled said mild hypothermia !!!!!!!! It rose a few degrees today but as not at same time app doesn't count!!!

Cape mission successful DH seems v.enthused this month - we're going for 10!

haha nessa good luck!

beetle yes has to be same time after at least 3hours undisturbed sleep and before you get out of bed. I have been known to put the thermometer on top of the snooze button so I remember. if your temp rose a couple of degrees I'd say you had a wrong temp. mine would be about 36.27-36.4ish c before ov the 36.68-36.8ish c after ov. do you have a proper bbt thermometer?

I may poas tomorrow morning, not decided. but AF due between tomorrow and more likely Sunday so why not. if anyone's up/up before me tomorrow, cast your votes...to pee or not to pee? I have no symptoms btw!

POAS! Why not, join me in the addiction!

Peeeeeeeoas I want to see a bfp lil!!

sorry ladies bfn guess that's another month. not sure how long I can keep doing this. its too hard.

Lil what tests are you using?

You admitted yourself you are testing early, so your not out yet! Also when I tested on Monday and I was due on Thursday, I thought initially it was a bfn. So I think your still in.

have you thought about step to try next month

Sorry that should say smep :)

If you are testing early wait a day or two, still a chance

14dpo so that that early really and using internet cheapies so 10miu sensitivity. cookie we've been doing smep since about August so 5 cycles--

guess I just have to see what the bloods say and the sa and go from there. I'm considering finding out about going private for an hsg if everything comes back fine.
sorry to bring everyone down. just feel really low today. was at my friends last night and they were talking about how "everyone " is pregnant. I just wanted to run screaming!

I'm with you lillady. Everyone else makes it look so easy. I'm now bleeding a bit more and just in case it was ov bleeding we did the dance last night - how the hell is this meant to be easy - and people say chill out don't worry !! Aargh I feel your frustration!
Have decided will go to doc next week with DH at least they will make him do something too!
Chin up though as one blessing of ertd is at least u can still have a sneaky drink !
Happy weekend all shaggers!

day 28 too, like you lil I have been tempted, but have already convinced myself she will be here this afternoon. eating like a horse! I am also surrounded by such clever people who are duffed. one smoking at least 10 fags a day, another so she doesn't have to go back to work and one who git duffed 3m after first birth, didn't realise until found out from gp she's now 5m preg! how the 'f' does that happen, its all getting bloody unfair and I want to stop being so chuffing happy for everyone else !!
woops sorry for the rant
(bowing my head in shame)
sorry to hear about the mid month bleeding, that's really unfair!
I am definitely on the '10' mission once af buggers off.

ps. I am in a good mood today, honest! did enjoy my rant, didn't realise how good it makes you feel. I think everyone should have one today. go on, get it off yoir chest.
HAPPY FRIDAY EVERYONE

Glad I'm not the only one who just feels pissed off with the whole thing.

I always told myself I'd never be one of those women who gets obsessed about ttc.. Hah.. hahhah!

I feel like a user, only using my DP for one thing and one thing only. He's knackered from work, and last night he was feeling ill, coming down with something. I still woke him up to dtd. He didn't mind in the end, but I did feel a bit mean. I told him that he did agree to trying every day this cycle, so he just had to get on with it!

I'm with those of you who are confused by spotting / unusual bleeding. I always had regular cycles, then a few months ago I suddenly got spotting at around 10dpo and was convinced that it was a bfp. It wasn't, of course, and I was bitterly disappointed. I got that spotting for another few cycles, and then haven't had it since. Weird.

I'm waiting for my contraband bbt to arrive so I can figure out what the hell is going on with he. I got EWCM yesterday at CD8. Surely too early for ov, but I do tend to get a shorter cycle averaging 27 days, so always assumed I ovs around day 12-13. Hmmmm.

OK RANT time. I get you on the pregnant women everywhere Saz - for me, literally ALL of my friends have at least 2 children under the age of 4. They're all at the same stage, and it's lovely... but it's bloody hard. The other week in the pub, I was sitting with a bunch of other friends and one girl who has 4 DCs (and is a size 8, how the hell?) said "Oh I just love having babies, you know what it's like, it's just lovely, I love babies!.." Everyone else sitting there has children, apart from one other friend who has struggled to ttc for 10 years, and is currently going through the process of adoption. I didn't dare look her in the eye, but we had an email rant about it later. She said that people like that have no idea that they're sticking the knife into us and twisting it. People are just oblivious.

The OTHER thing that is driving me nuts is the inability to plan / look ahead for the year. I'm a big planner, and I've moaned about wanting to book a holiday already on this thread. But it's just so friggin frustrating - I might be pregnant by then, I might not. My contract will come to an end at the end of this year - I'll be looking for work again. But will I be pg / on mat leave by then? Aaaargh, I hate not knowing!

Cosy - I'm the same, everything is planned, it's that aspect of ttc that's been driving me nuts for the last 12 months, the not knowing, not being able to plan anything. We have a holiday born for June and when I got the bfp last month I had to start thinking about whether I could fly, I would have been in 7th month then and easyjet don't let you fly in third trimester, so we would have lost £400, as it is the mc solved that issue I do have stuff planned now though as I've had life on hold for the last year, didn't do festivals last year just in case etc etc, which is really annoying as I've missed out on Glastonbury for two years.

Ttc affects everything, even just going for drinks with work. I'm going to visit my friend in London in February and nearly didn't book it in case I'm ovulating that weekend!

Have decided to give living a chance for a few months!

It's shit isn't it *MissHobart

As for not booking something in case you're ovulating though - I have to go away a lot with work, and inevitably I've missed a few crucial ov times because of this. I see these as a holiday from the dreaded TWOT. Because at least you know you can't have conceived that month, so you give your brain a bit of a breather from obsessing about it.

And you can just spend that time planning how to make sure the next month is a good one.

Oh okay lil I have my fx for a nap for you :)

Cosy, missH I'm there too, everyone at work seems to be happily getting upduffed as are so many of my friends! It's rubbish
But hey it's Friday - I'm still aiming for 10,defo some jsing tonight - it's the only way it's gonna happen!!
Get your capes on viroids, it's gonna happen for all of us!

I'm on CD8 and have managed 2... I'll try for 10 as well.

God DP would DIE if he knew what information I shared with you all on here!!!!

haha cosy. when I was posting on way back from sa dh saw I was on mumsnet app and was like "your not posting about it are you" I was like um.. nooo! Lol. he just doesn't get that u girls are my TTC sisters! I love having you lot to vent with. its nice to not feel alone in this lifestyle that is ttc!

trying to be more positive. after having a little cry to myself earlier thinking about the unfairness of sil and her one testicled hero been flicking through my app and this is only really cycle 10 since dh realised sex has to happen for a baby to happen! so I'm going to try and chill, wait for af the test results and just try try again. and only after the results will I continue googling hsg privately in my area!

I like the idea of giving having a life a chance too whoever said that. let's all try that!

yes, its definitely time for us all to go for the 10 shag challenge! !

Big hugs all round! I am a bit ranted out but have a solidarity fist bump on the unfairness of it all. Time seems to go so slowly when you're waiting for ERTD. Lots of miscarriage talk in the office today, not tempted to share. Can't wait for the weekend.

big hug juniper (I have graciously accepted yours) soon be home time hun.
inconsiderate colleagues.

Big here at 'SIL and her one testicled hero'

As for telling DP.. hahah, no dear, of course I'm not telling a bunch of strangers over the internet that we just travelled with your sperm in a cup in between my breasts.. who would do that?!

And that might be my first ever 'Solidarity fist bump' Juniper - so right back atcha ttc sista

Also lol at the one testicled hero.

The Guardian have 50 pictures of Michelle Obama for her birthday so looking at them has stirred me up. I am also bare sick, innit.

here she is ertd cow! thanks for giving me false hope this morning and stupidly getting hopes up.
right. little drinkie tonight then my mission begins... youll be hearing me rattle with all the supplements lol.

can I ask why transport swimmers between boobs??