Eggcellent Egg Buddies - a thread for those IVFing in November, December and January

[eurochick]

New thread. Welcome back to all the regulars. Welcome to all the newbies - please come and join us if you are IVFing or thinking about. The regulars are a mine of information at this point!

Do you realise that this will take us through a year of egg buddy threads? I believe Karbea started the last one around Xmas time last year for those cycling in 2013 and I immediately jumped on it as I was about to start my first cycle in January. Blimey.

Hi guys.

MaryP - sorry to read about your BFN but glad to read that you sound positive
Euro - yikes - caution is understandable but it sounds good

Fish - no words to help but I think surgery is the best option. Mine went on to 10 weeks and the growing abdomen becomes a cruel joke.

AFM, I hoped to return with a fanfare and nearly did. Cowardice won out until Sunday when I POAS in the dark at 4am then left DH to look at it when he awoke at 7am. It read 'Pregnant 2-3 weeks'.

Cue blissful Sunday/Monday working out ML dates etc. I should have known better. On Tuesday I found blood; just a little, pink, on wiping but blood nonetheless. And it continues. Clinic thinks it's the pessaries irritating the cervix but my heart says it's the beginning of the end.

Scan on 30/12 - it's gonna be a crap Christmas.

Congratulations euro. Really hope that things go well for you this time

Res blood doesn't always mean the beginning of the end. I'm going to whisper congrats very cautiously to you & keep my fingers crossed that the scan goes well on the 30th

Thanks guys. I've given up checking the bowl/paper evert time as it's too exhausting and what will be will be. Glimmer of hope is absence of pain/full flow but Dr Google brings up (literally) hundreds of tales of m/c without pain and with minimal bleeding.

This one was DE IVF and had blighted ovum before but no m/c as such.

Euro - seen result. That's good. Yay!

MaryP - I know and have tried to be positive for DH's sake but I had bleeding (different from current) with blighted ovum and just knew it was game over despite the words of encouragement and continuation of symptoms.

Poor Fish. Thinking of you.

Thanks Bugs - that's helpful - don't want to take anything positive from your heartbreak but as you know, you cling to what you can!

I'm also hoping that many of the Dr G entries are from the same sort who claim to have periods throughout pregnancy and feel the baby move at 6 weeks! God, I'd forgotten the sheer volume of crap 'information' out there!

Oh res. The positive test is great news, but I can understand how worried you must be. Are you on cyclogest? I find that just complicates matters as you are "leaking" all the fricking time anyway. We can do some menkullingg/waiting together.

bugs I found this last time I mc'd and 107 is a lot better in terms of outcome probability than 48.

humrep.oxfordjournals.org/content/17/7/1901.full

Hi euro. I'm on Utrogestan so yes leakage is an issue! And it's white residue so shows the merest hint of blood hence decision to stop checking the pants (but I do, this is gross I know, regularly stick a finger down there to see what I can find - I have no dignity left after this stuff!).

Hi euro. I'm on Utrogestan so yes leakage is an issue! And it's white residue so shows the merest hint of blood hence decision to stop checking the pants (but I do, this is gross I know, regularly stick a finger down there to see what I can find - I have no dignity left after this stuff!).

It would be rude not to post when all of you lovely ladies keep asking after me. i'm very touched.

respisa I'm sorry if I delayed your announcement, Please do not respond to that - I already know what you will say. Its not necessarily the end have they said what to do if your cervix is being irritated? Personally I would be pushing for an early scan due to time of year. Just to see a sac and whatnot even if its too early for anything else. Fuck the headfuck - I did it 5 days - never again as I watched the scanners and reckon I could break in and operate it myself.

buggs please don't take this the wrong way but there's something about your explanation and how its written that has tickled me pink. In the nicest way its almost like the one upmanship my nan used to do: you think you've got flu? Well in 1962.... My life has become such that I can find humour in such dark pain. Shit, I don't know whether I should continue laughing or start crying.

You are right by the way spot on in fact. Fuck me I knew when that pain hit me, like fuck its like a heavy period. I felt my body's urgency to expel that child.

mary I'm so sorry. I hope you are looking after yourself.

euro those results look great! Its all in the doubling so don't go mad with google. And.... Stay neutral at worst - that embie needs happy hormones and if it doesn't work out you'll be upset anyway so don't attempt to bring it forward. That's what I told myself.

AFM - I've seen livelier looking zombies. There is so much to say but I'll keep it brief. My morning sickness is getting worse and worse. I only eat to ease it up and only a little so I don't throw up. Its so absolutely fucking cruel.

It does not look like I'll get a ERPC before xmas so against advice I'm sticking with the crinone. I refuse to go naturally and if I have to scream down a&e I will. On advice (thanks euro!) I'm also looking at private charges. This sounds awful, but there is a 'clinic' near my acupuncturists - I only noticed because of the christian protest opposite.

I really need my hormone levels to go down, another day or two and I'll be chundering

Fish - have you had ERPC before? If not, just so you know, it really helped to close the chapter and was pain free for me. Private might well be worth investigating...at my local hospital, they pretty much do a next day service and to make you wait seems cruel.

Hi Res just read my post back & realised it sounded harsh. Am on phone so am a bit too direct. I think you are being very sensible taking things cautiously. Hugs

Oh and in answer to your question, they told me to go for the anal route. Epic fail and I'm not messing with prog levels at thus stage so am sticking with vagina.

MaryP - no harshness taken - yours was the measured response of a mature woman with knowledge of reproduction. I sound like an idiot - oh, woe is me, the end - but I prefer a happy surprise than an unhappy shock at the end IYKWIM.

I haven't had one before...

It's partially my own fault as to why I'm waiting - legally the local hospital has to leave a week as when they scanned me I was just under 25mm. They cannot accept IVF clinics scan. If I hadn't had the local scan it would have been ok. If I present to a&e they'll have no choice apparently so I have a bit of an option.

The nurse ( local hosp) had booked me in for when big cheese is there as she gets what she wants and will push for same day treatment. Its the sickness that bothers me.

Plus... The cat has a vet appointment monday morning and I'd like to get her bloods done first - she has thyroid issues that has been monitored since August but missed her bloods last month. Crazy I know, I'm not even enraptured by the miserable bitch but we need to get that thyroid removed as the daily pilling is stressful. For all of us

Euro I'm still clinging onto that big toe lovely xx those results sound good to me

Marypops I'm so sorry for your BFN. It's so mean isn't it

Res, it ain't over til it's over lovely - and that doesn't sound like the end to me. Are you able to have an hcg test like euro? We all understand though - wasn't it Prammy who said plan for the best but be prepared for the worst (or something like that!). We all seem to have that crazy mix of positive and negative in us. I think it's only possible to be truly positive for a pregnancy when you haven't had the pain already. My first ivf was pretty joyful, I truly thought it would work for us, but the second time was more of a struggle - by the time I get to the third time I'm sure, if I get a Bfp, it will be a bittersweet and scary time. People who get pregnant with ease will never understand the emotional rollercoaster we put ourselves through.

Fish, sounds like the private route is a good idea - I had an erpc after my mmc and it was a pretty smooth experience - it would be my choice if I have to go through all that crap again. And quite frankly I'm sure it would be better for you emotionally to know you can at least get drunk, eat crap and spend time with mr fish etc without fear of miscarrying at any point? It seems so cruel to make you wait doesn't it.