Roll up, roll up, come enjoy the BESH funfair!

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Come to the BESH funfair - we have a coconut shy, apple bobbing, dodgems and much much more. The prizes? Shiny new BFPs, of course. You can only go on the rides if you're a barren 30plus-er, the entrance fee is one completed BESHtionairre.

Thats understandable euro self protection is important - I guess the good news is that it will still work if its going to work and fingers crossed it will.

Morning hags, I have days of the week issues... I wad absolutely convinced it was Friday so came to say good luck for the scan, euro! So I'll just say it a day early!

Bugs, take the space you need, we'll be ready to cheer you on thru stabbing! Not long now tho...

How are things w you Cherry?

Shall we compare hideous or wonderful Xmas plans? It's the first time in years I'll be expected to turn up at the in-laws...

Morning Drizz, my Christmas plans, which I haven't decided if they are hideous or not yet, involve cooking Christmas dinner for NINE people: me & HWHNN, my parents, MIL, MIL's brother plus his wife and two teenage daughters.

The reason, numbers aside, why it could be hideous is because my mum is a Jehovah's Witness and HWHNN's aunt is Jewish, so neither of them "do" Christmas!

Hope everyone is keeping well

frank erm, that sounds like "fun".

We had a big debate about inviting KFZK's mum. We've invited her every year for the past 3 (she came over for one and on a second planned to but her plane got snowed in). I don't think she has ever been to BIL's. I said this year I really didn't want to "do" Christmas at all and so asked KFZK to speak to his brother about it. But BIL and SIL were having marriage ishoos (again) so once more it fell to us because we don't want her spending it on her own. I get hacked off that my easygoingness always loses out to SIL's hissyfits. I found last Xmas enormously hard with all my friends spending time with their cute children and all the schmalzy family stuff on tv, and I am expecting this year to be hard because we should have had our own 8 week old by Xmas. But anyway, by the time we asked her, she had other plans. So we will just host my parents (equally irritating at times, but they only live a few miles away so just come over for lunch and a film, so it's a lot less intense than having MIL here for several days).

I can feel my ovaries doing something. I usually got the odd twinge at this point in my cycle but these are stronger. Hopefully the scan tomorrow will show some activity.

I'm hoping for a quiet day at work - all the yanks are off stuffing turkey, so hopefully they won't be bothering me!

Bloody hell frank, that'll be, er, interesting. HWCA and I are flying to my parents on Christmas eve, back on the 27th. It should be fine, Christmas Day will be us, my parents, and maybe my dad's brother. Boxing Day is usually big, sister, BIL, nephews, aunt and her kids, maybe another aunt, uncle and kids, and my granny. Not sure if that's still the plan.

Is the stabbing ok euro? Fingers crossed for tomorrow, though it does sound good.

Stabbing is fine so far. It's not bothering me at all.

Hurrah! Good news, euro :)

Blimey, Frank, that sounds like hard work! We are having Christmas on our own at home for the second time ever - really looking forward to it. Still have plenty of duty calls around Christmas though, but hopefully they will be day trips so not too strenuous.

bugs I was thinking the same but I'm not sure how or if it needs resolved? It's kinda nice that we can all dip in and out as needs be and find consolation here when we need it. New recruits welcome on our own terms I guess!

I'm doing OK thanks driz - bearing up in a weird sort of normal-but-not, altered reality way. Not exactly bah humbug but I don't think I'm quite ready for Christmas cheer either.

Sounds like you've got your hands full Frank. Good news euro, long may the breeze continue.

Christmas is going to be weird this year without mum. She did everything so my sister and I will cook. I already feel tearful just thinking about having to do Christmas without her.

Oh dor that will be a tough Christmas. Very important though for you all to have it and mourn her again that day as well as all the days you miss her so much. Have a hug disguised behind a shower of shrimp.

So tough for you as well cherry. Sorry if I inadvertedly made you both think of difficult days ahead.

I am enjoying the feeling of not having to cook for ten including a Jehova's witness and a Jew, frank. So that has brought me a smile.

Completely agree that the fred is a little quiet but I like the fact I know all of you well now!

Dor I think "the firsts" are the toughest bit after a bereavement. It is supposed to get a lot easier once a year has passed and you have moved past those firsts.

cherry I'm thinking of you too.

bugs the thread is strangely quiet. I think those of us who haven't graduated are quite a small group now and are having tough times. We haven't had any new recruits for a while.

AFM, I had my first scan this morning. I'm growing well and my bloods were fine. I had 4-5 follies on each side, although some were very small so I suspect they won't develop. The dr thought EC could be as early as Thursday!

Wow, it really is dead in here. Am I responsible for the fred that killed off the BESH? :(

euro I'm glad that the scan went well today. I have my fingers crossed the follies will keep it up. Has KFZK handed over his European trial or is it still on? How are you feeling about ET?

Morning all. Good news about those follies, euro! Am sending lots of growing vibes your way. Have you changed your diet at all? I cut out wheat (mainly to try to avoid another hemorrhagic cyst) and went for it with protein. I have no idea if it helped but I feel somehow like it did.

Sorry I haven't been around much. I had a shit week at work combined with hormone levels feeling out of control. A throwaway remark by my boss had me sobbing on the way home and I'm still feeling tearful now. Plus Christmas party with lots of differs last night. Ugh. Also I'm very confused about what's going on with my body - I was expecting a withdrawal bleed but instead I've got signs of gearing up for ov. WTF? Extensive googling reveals no one who has frozen after EC but not due to OHSS. Anyway I am rallying round and going to see a friend for lunch today.

Good news, euro, keep on growing nicely :)

Oh, fizz, that sounds miserable :(

winks his boss is going instead, so it's no problem if EC ends up on Thursday.

fizz I cut out wheat on my first (successful) and third (unsuccessful) cycle. I've since had the screening blood tests for coeliac and it was clear so I think I have nothing more than an intolerance. I can't really be bothered to go to the effort it requires this time round! I am making an effort to eat more protein, but not going overboard (I'm lactose intolerance so a pint of milk a day is definitely NOT on the menu).

No wonder you feel teary - your hormones must be all over the place.

I've had a lovely day freezing my arse off in the middle of a field shooting. It was actually really nice to go and focus on something completely different (despite the cold!). Shooting was perhaps a bizarre choice of ttc distraction hobbies, but it actually works really well. And going there we got to give the new car its longest run yet.

We saw a horrible accident on the way home though - a car upside down in the trees at the side of the M25. It looks like it might have tried to avoid an accident. It shook me up a bit. I hope the people in the car were ok.

Welcome back bugs! That sounds like a plan. :)

Just about to do the first bastard stingy cetrotide injection. I used those on my natural modified cycle and really don't like them!

euroThat does sound awful to have seen, I always hope that no-one was hurt in those situations.

It will be awkward and rubbish, but try and remember good Christmas times with your mum, even if they make you cry and be upset.

I've been generally miz after a stomach bug laid me out for 2 full days. Only just getting right now, been for a meal for my sister's birthday and had to select "light" food from the menu. It is gurgling its way through my pretty much empty digestive tract and stopping me from sleeping.

Oh yeah, and menkulling after spotting 6 & 7 dpo and trying not to get my hopes up. Would be ironic, as I've got to spend half of December on anti-malarials due to the Vietnam trip. And wouldn't be able to eat shellfish. Or drink.

Welcome back bugs. I hope the doc does the sensible thing and sign you off. I am sorry your anxiety has gotten so bad again. Also, I am very sorry about your boss, he sounds awful.

Well done for a nice distracting if ice cold day, euro. Just keep taking the stabs one day at a time. I reckon less than a week til EC for you. Keeping everything crossed.

Interesting ginge. When can we convince you to pee on sticks?

Goid that you're going to the doctors. Do the ESH need to turn up en mass to sort your boss out? Just let us know...

Euro how long will you be stabbing for?

Happy moving day bugs! That all seems to have happened rather quickly!

It looks like EC on Thursday for me (so only 7 days of stabbing, Jeff).

I had a disappointing scan this morning. Two of my follies have taken off and are ready now. I have a bunch of others that are growing but are considerably smaller. This is similar to the situation on my 2nd (natural modified) cycle) when I ended up with 4 eggs and 2 low quality embies. It makes timing EC difficult because the lead follies will overcook if they wait for the others, but if they go in too soon, they will only get those two. The dr this morning was talking about hopefully getting the lead two and "one or two more" which is quite a comedown from the 8-10 I had in play at the first scan. If I'd been told I'd get 3 at the beginning that would have been fine, but after the first scan I was hoping for more. Anyway, IOTO and all that. But the injections are upsetting KFZK a bit (more than they are bothering me, bizarrely), and getting a good haul would have made it all seem more worth it.