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The Elderberry Pavlovas- All aboard the Berrycopter. Thread 14

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funkymonk · 03/09/2013 20:23

The smallprint - Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 3+months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot) and def no mention of baby dust or baby dancing UGH !!! Ooh we are strict...please note your house may be at risk if you do not keep up repayments lol

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RevoltingPeasant · 19/09/2013 23:20

Hmm I think I have made a v stupid rookie mistake with my cycle and feel a bit down about it. I have been getting all excited about AF not turning up as normally it would've been due on Monday.

But I seem to have OV freakishly late this month and so if I do have a normal LP then I won't be due till Sun. So really nothing to be excited about.

I know that sounds incredibly obvious but I've just been assuming to myself that I more likely had a LP defect than that the one month I started charting properly just happened to be the one time ever that I OV really late. Which is much more obvious :(

barkingtreefrog · 20/09/2013 07:29

This ttc lark is just a mix of emotions all the time RP, Thanks Don't beat yourself up about not knowing your cycle yet, I was ttc for at least 6 months before I started temping, and it was over a year before I realised my 8 day LP was not a good thing (reducing the 2ww) but probably what was stopping me getting pg.
So in the scale of things, you're way ahead of me!
Look on the positive side - it seems a short LP can be crossed off your list of potential difficulties Smile .
Hope you're feeling more positive this morning, have a Brew .

RevoltingPeasant · 20/09/2013 08:03

Thanks barking. Yeah, just feel dim - but you are quite right, that is one problem I am grateful not to have!!

CatsCantFlyFast · 20/09/2013 08:03

Rp I thought your chart had you ovulating at least 12 days ago?

yorkiebilb · 20/09/2013 08:10

Just popping on to say good luck happy with your fc today. Let us know how you get on.

barkingtreefrog · 20/09/2013 08:14

Talking of mixed emotions I just pimped. BFN. This is a good thing as it means everything has cleared out ready for trying again. I did it because the EPU have given me a test I have to do on 2nd Oct before they will call me to ask the result and check I can be safely discharged. The ridiculously over positive side of me thought what if I got a bfp on the 2nd? I wouldn't know whether it was a problem with the mc or a new pg?! which is ridiculous as I'd be lucky to get my cycles back by then never mind a very early ov and immediate upduffment
So now I know I'm back at baseline. Mixed emotions. I really liked being pg Sad .

Thundercatsarego · 20/09/2013 08:19

Good luck today happy, let us know!

barking it took me weeks to get a bfn and I remember the turmoil at the time. But there is nothing wrong with thinking positive lady- loads of people go on to get pg quickly. So if it is bfp on the 2nd, you know why now!

Bunnygirlie · 20/09/2013 08:23

Awwwww barking big hugs x

Bunnygirlie · 20/09/2013 08:23

And happy break a leg!

CatsCantFlyFast · 20/09/2013 08:45

Good luck happy.
Barking you will be pregnant again

barkingtreefrog · 20/09/2013 08:46

Thanks ladies Smile . I think I'm missing fb. Spending far too much time on here instead! Apart from the bumps and babies of course. Not mising those. Or all the happy families. Hmm.

Happy let us know how you get on Smile .

RevoltingPeasant · 20/09/2013 09:25

Merk I am now CD30 so OV 13 days ago. But FF says I will not get AF till Sunday. I had kind of been ignoring that as I have never, ever had a 31 day cycle - but I guess I just might be.....

barking that is good as now you are at baseline, ready to go again. Your palace is all newly decorated and fitted out! Wink

happylass · 20/09/2013 09:29

Thanks ladies! Just enroute to the FC now. Feeling very nervous! Will report back later.

CatsCantFlyFast · 20/09/2013 09:43

RP if i remember correctly this is your first month using FF? If so it will just be guessing based on an average LP therefore it won't know any more/better than you
Sid?

happylass · 20/09/2013 11:01

Done at the FC clinic and nothing major to report. Was just a form filling exercise with the nurse as suspected. She asked a load of questions and basically said there was nothing obviously wrong from our test results and we may well fall in to that 'horrible category of unexplained infertility'. Now waiting for an appointment with the consultant and she said she'd try to get us in as quickly as possible.
Got really upset afterwards though as DP had a go at me because he doesn't think we should be taking a break from TTC. I may be being unreasonable but after already spending thousands of pounds I'm not sure what I'd do if I got upduffed now and was due at the same time as the wedding. It's all well and good him saying we'd sort something out but I know it would all be left to me and I did tell him when we booked the wedding that maybe we should wait until we'd had a baby but he said it would all be ok Sad

Foodylicious · 20/09/2013 12:14

barking I am with you there hon, was (and still is) such a mixed bag of emotions at the start, so bloody awful with what has happened but such happy memories of when I was pg too. Felt like I was betraying them somehow??
I know people say it, and sounds F stupid but it does get a bit easier as time goes by, but still hits you just as hard when it overwhelms - the length of time between these gets longer and the complete inconsolable sobbing episodes are getting shorter too.

Soo positivity!!! well done you on dtd, and having your baseline to start from!!! take it easy over the next little bit though if you can and be really, really kind to yourself.

help!!! I think I may have to start using FF - have avioded so far as I dont want this to be all consuming, but am on cd15 and sign on lh on OPK's. Will have a look at it but I may need some help figuring it out.

happy thats all a bit pants Sad when is the wedding? my OH is mostly great, but sometimes he just does not get it! we got engaged in march but did not plan a date as we had our big holiday coming up - he has not expressed anything about when or where he wants to get married - all previous conversations were instigated by me and I know if I told him what i wanted he would go along with it, but sometimes I just want him to 'be the man'!

we have just finished our break from ttc - in trying to be supportive he leaves all the decision making to me, saying I should do what is best for me - this is great but really gives me no idea what he really wants/feels and feel like I an carrying the weight.

RP really don't beat yourself up - have been at this for nearly 2 yrs and am massively still learning - and also until AF turns up you don't really know what is going on. I always thought my cycles were fairly textbook, around 27-29 days, though had a couple that were 31-32 since we started ttc. first 16 months just used calendar to work out 2ww, then used OPKs in month 17 and did not have LH surge until CD19! soo that is when I found out about short lp, panicked and read a bit about vit B6, bought loads and started taking that day.

That was the cycle I then got my BFP (that sadly did not stick), whether it was due to the B6 extending the lp or the fact that we dtd at least once every single day (was exhasting!) I will never know. We are back on the ttc bus and I am not taking the B6 as when I was pg i could not find enough evidence to support carrying on with B6 or stopping once you were pg and how safe it was for the bean etc. this caused me loads of stress so am just going to see what i can manage on my own this cycle.
Think will go to gp for re-referal to fc next month if no BFP - typicaly we were on the waiting list when got pg.

SidneyBristow · 20/09/2013 14:26

Foody and Barking big hugs to you both. I hate that you're having to go through this, but can I just say that I think you're both going through the healing process with such grace and honesty; it's inspiring. I hope that doesn't sound patronizing. Things on the TTC front for me have been pretty grim these last couple of weeks and I've often though that I could use a bit of the strength shown on this thread Thanks

Happy Boo on your FC appt and your fiance giving you a hard time. I'd feel torn about it too; there really isn't a "right" answer but maybe one idea would be to not try, but not not try, and see what happens? If he gets you pg then you could make him foot the bill for a new dress! Wink Glad the nurse said she'd get you in as soon as poss though. Urgh, dreaded Unexplained...I'll scoot over because we're in the same boat. It's frustrating, not knowing why nothing's happened yet.

RP Merk's right, FF will get more accurate with more use but for now it's just guessing. Are you sure you aren't pg?? It is a hopeful sign though that your LP is so much longer than usual.

Bunny hope you're feeling better about the lap & dye. I've had a few surgeries (one pretty major) and the worst part about a general is the wait between checking in to the hospital and the time they wheel you into the op room. The worry over it all is much worse than the actual experience. You'll breathe in some lovely gas and count back from 10 and probably won't even make it to 8, and when you wake up you'll be cold and perhaps a little emotional (believe it's a common side effect of anesthesia) but that's it. It will go fine! Cake

As for me, I started spotting last night (I never spot) and AF unpacked her bags in earnest today, although it seems a little different (ahem) than usual, more similar to the end of a period than the beginning. If I hadn't gotten repeated BFNs I would wonder what was going on, as I've been nauseated for a week now and actually woke up at 4am from extreme cramping and nausea (better now). Clomid was delivered today so I'm starting my sweeties tomorrow Grin Why you ask? Because DH has prevailed in getting some normalcy for our family so life is good again Smile Smile Smile Can hardly believe it myself!

And the cherry on top is that 3 people at the NHS FC have now told me that we would actually qualify for NHS IVF, since we as a unit do not have children (ie together). Am to call someone else for a final verdict but he's not in. Could be interesting!

Foodylicious · 20/09/2013 14:40

Anyone have links to good/reliable B6 info? or are using it??starting to think about it again, did not have enough info last time about how to keep taking it in pg and if it coupl be harmful, how much to take once pg and when/if to stop it??

CatsCantFlyFast · 20/09/2013 15:07

Sid are you 9 DPO or 16dpo today? Can I recommend a final test pre clomid tomorrow as I'm suspicious of your 'different' AF. Barking didn't you have a similar thing?

Tallyra · 20/09/2013 15:08

all I know about b6 is that in some cases it can help stave off sickness in early pg when combined with cyclizine. didn't work for me. but it's safe in pg don't worry.

SidneyBristow · 20/09/2013 15:18

Merk if I ov'd on the date the consultant said I would, then today would be 16dpo; if he was wrong & my LP is as it's always been (at least accdg to FF) at 12 days, then I'm 12dpo. My ic OPK sticks did seem to confirm that he was right, but if that's the case then I don't know why out of the blue I'd have had a 16 day LP. I took the month off from temping and learned my lesson as a result

I will definitely be doing one last test in the morning but am sure I'm not pg Sad wish it were different; I would have so loved a tiny bump for Christmas!!

CatsCantFlyFast · 20/09/2013 15:27

Sid it would seem odd that the OPKs and your consultants opinion based on a scan agree but both be wrong. How sure are you that it's AF?

barkingtreefrog · 20/09/2013 15:37

sid great news on the family front! Do I have to brave the fb gauntlet to get details?! And amazing news on possible NHS funding as well!! Grin

Happy remind me when your wedding is again? I'm trying to work out the earliest I can start making my dress to avoid making it to fit now and then possibly having a very small bump in February!!

foody I tried the b6 but it didn't work for me. The reading I did at the time said to continue taking it during pg. Can't remember for how long though, sorry.

barkingtreefrog · 20/09/2013 15:41

sid/merk My 'AF' when it actually wasn't AF was just spotting for 6 days with a day of no spotting on day 4. I didn't need more than a pantyliner throughout, and most of the time only noticed blood when I wiped rather than any blood on the pad which is what made me pimp.

Foodylicious · 20/09/2013 15:42

how and when in the cycle do you take clomid? I thought is was a 5 day course after day 3 or 5?