Harry Potter and the rise of the BESH: Instadiffers, baby dusters and huns will be subject to the spell Evanesco!!.

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If you are you over 30 and have been ttc for over 12 months, are witch like or even better a complete hag and willing to abuse your powers of wizardry to conjure up gin by the bucket load, then fill out the Beshionnaire and join us if you dare in our battle against BESH curse.

Instadiffers and baby dusters will be turned into frogs and used in a potion.

Peskipiksi Pesternomi!!!

Enjoy the night out Bugs, and give serious thought to the "adult" soft furnishings option - there's definitely a market out there

cherry that sounds like a heavy week. Get yourself in the middle of a BESH huddle.

rasp it sounds like the trigger has gone, so any test result now should be based on your own hormones rather than fake ones.

I like the cushions too. I could be tempted. And it would a great way to mess with breeder friends when they come to visit ("mummy what does that say?" etc.) :)

Fanks for the good wishes BESH. Been a hell of a week all told. Hopefully out of the woods for now and on the long road to getting stronger.

Sorry about your op pain bear. Sounds worrying and uncomfortable nonetheless. I definitely don't have a monopoly on horrid hospital situations so take a cod of comfort.

Have a good one Bugs, I hope a wild one will be just the tonic you need

First of the breeders have arrived with various sized off spring, the three oldest of which all have asbos to their names, the youngest is about two weeks old. Fucking hell I've only arrived ten minutes ago and I feel sick, want to go home.

Can you feign illness and duck out early Rasp?

Oh, bear, that sounds horrible. And after we were all so "it's no biggie, don't worry", too :(

We were round at friends' tonight - all very well, lovely people, but even a teeny bit of baby talk is too much and there was lots. Not to mention a couple of friends have rather strong opinions on childrearing, which I don't share - but you can hardly say anything, can you?! That is one thing I am very grateful to MN for showing me: that how your baby behaves is largely down to luck, and it does not matter what methods you use to stay sane, so long as they work for you and your baby. I don't understand why the fuck people are so judgy. If you want to breast feed for a couple of years, do so. If your child settles themselves if you let them cry for a few mins after putting them down, fine. But don't then judge everyone else's lives by your yardstick! I made us leave early, then cried a bit on HOTB when we got home. It's interesting how he has even less faith in IVF working than I do.

I'm home. Completely knackered and feeling pretty grim. I avoided all the stupid baby talk, only two of the breeders came from the one side of the family, the ones on the other side didn't show thankfully. I sat in a completely different room. Was a bit thrown after I posted here as mums friend came and asked if I was ok after my treatment, mum had clearly told them everything. They are lovely lovely people so them knowing doesn't particularly bother me, it's just that I wasn't expected to be asked then just as I was saying what an awful thing it is to go through one of the breeders walked in dangling her kid around and everyone just stopped to coo. I could quite happily have curled up and died at that point.

I really do feel like shit about the whole thing, it's like tonight made me realise that if I can't have kids, I might not actually be able to cope with other people who have them being anywhere near me again. Not young children. I just can't see how Ill cope.

I know, it's all just crappy. Think I need to remove myself from all this for a bit and get some normality back to my life. Woke with a stinking headache and feel rough as hell. I'll be back soon xx

Morning hags!

Sorry for the shit night, rasp if you're still near here. I am confident you a) will get your baby and b) will be okay whatever happens. But the way there is particularly shit. And I am sorry!

Sorry you feel rough despite not drinking much bugs. You do sound in a much better place generally, so that is excellent progress. Feeling somehow a bit in charge is generally good.

Sorry your night was tough as well draf. When I was IVFing I avoided people a lot of the time. I found things easier once it was all done and dusted. And socially as well as emotionally I am coping much better with the frostie-round. So just take the time and space you need to cook those egglets and expect your hormones to be amplified and all over the shop. It is horrible but true.

My night was quiet and knackered, I definitely ran a bit of a high temperature yesterday, so I just hang out on the sofa under a home crochet blanket and am very much hoping paracetamol helped enough to keep me from boiling lembie. I woke up rough this morning, but lots of tea and a hot shower have brought me here to finish the bits of work that needed doing on Friday and I just failed miserably at.

Sorry the hsg was a bit of a nightmare bear. Did they find adhesions or blockages? Thinking of you.

Welcome back from the week from hell cherry, I am so glad your sister pulled through, but so sad it was such a close call. Have a massive hug. It is something too horrid to contemplate really. Touches wood thinking of my wonderful if overly fertile sister.

Definitely likely that your stress and anxiety has postponed ov Bugs, think of it as a "flight response". Your body is not sure if it is "safe" to ov and potentially win a baybee, so it is holding off until the coast is clear.

In a weird way we used to find the same thing with the mares that were due to foal. If the weather turned cold they would all go over their due dates until it got warmer again!

Nothing dickish about that. How did it go?

Sorry about the shitty weekends everyone. The wedding I was at ended up pretty good, and I've had a busy weekend with family. Hope everyone is doing a bit better on this wet dreary Monday.

Hope the appointment went ok Bugs. If you are not happy with the outcome ask to see a different Dr.

Waiting excitedly to hear news from Jeffers

I've reported the spammer

Me too.

Is jeffers having her c section today?

Well done, Frank. I love how the spammer doesn't seem to have noticed that we are a UK-based site - check? Dollars? I don't think so...

Dildocam this morning went alright - still moving along slowly but steadily. I have three big follicles so technically qualify for triggering today, but as I have several more that are not far off, the nurse thinks that they might leave me for a couple more days to get those ones up to spec too.

Thinking growing thoughts for your follies Draf.

Yes, Jeff was going in at 7.30am to be checked, but she said last night that MiniJeff was still head up, so no sign of turning. Not sure what time they were going to carry out the C-section.

I can't believe she's due, it feels like her bfp was only yesterday. Amazing.

Good growing draf, when's the next dildocam?