Posifrickentivity all round, with a good healthy dash of project desperate. New thread, new luck, new BFPs! TTC after MC

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Come one, come all and join our rollicking new thread with slightly updated brand new rules

(1) A lady may only POAS on a Friday.
(2) Friday means the day that everyone calls Friday in the time zone where you spent the night.
(3) Rule (1) does not apply to POA-OPK-S, UNLESS they are being illegitimately used as surrogate HCG detectors, in which case Rule (1) most definitely does apply
(4) Rule (1) does not apply following a BFP because if you want to waste £25 a day POADigiS that's your prerogative
(5) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady is POAS in an attempt to get a BFN to prove she can start DTD with intent
(6) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady wants for unknown reason to pee on an actual stick, like a twig or some such, if that lady is unexpectedly caught short whilst tramping in the forest looking for bears.
(7) These rules (including Rule (1)) are subject to the change at any time if the ladies of the Posifrickentivity thread decide on a whim come up with empirical evidence to prove that it is luckier to POAS on any other day of the week
(8) Violators of Rule (1) shall be subject to fish throwing.

And as a grand finale, why not pledge to NEVER POAS before 14DPO?

Hi Sal, I don't know about everyone else, but I have retreated to my metaphoric cave whilst AF was here. This was my first AF post MC - very messy! However, hopefully I am now thoroughly cleared out and ready to take advantage of the anecdotal post MC fertility surge. We enter peak shagging week (PSW) at the weekend, but have started with the pre season friendless as DH was keen. I hadn't the heart to tell him that I consider sex outside of the peak fertility window a bit pointless!

I've been hermitting too. Having AF show up 4 days early was rather gutting; it knocked me rather more mentally than I was expecting. It was also rather more painful than usual - and I have a high pain threshold, too. I think I'd just built up my hopes too much this month. :-(

Yes, I retreated into my cave too. I had nausea, high BBT, had a dream about having a baby, and got to CD31, then AF. I definitely built my hopes up too much as well. I bet none of us thought in our teenage years that a period would feel like a mini-bereavement every month. I just LOVE how pre-menstruation symptoms are so similar to early pregnancy symptoms. Really. Not really

Never mind, I have all the Project Desperate vitamins and supplements sorted, and all ready to start again, again. And I can't remember who advised getting DH all clued up on the best days to DTD, but there is now a highlighted calendar on the wall in our kitchen!

Yorkshire I completely agree - waste of time!

Livin Your SIL's pregnancy must be really hard to deal with. Wishing you lots of strength.

Waves and lots of baby dust to everyone else. x

Morning everyone, just popped over from other thread as was lying awake last night thinking about this whole conceiving malarkey and needed to share something with you and project desperate!

Ok, it took me 3 months to conceive early on in the year and 3 months post MC to conceive again. Both months I conceived I was in ketosis...following a very low carb diet. I've googled loads on this and apparently it can assist fertility as alters hormone levels. Not exactly sure how but lots of reports of women falling pregnant when in ketosis as seems to kick start fertility. Anyway...thought I'd mention it as convinced it helped me. Lots of love x

I am hermitting too. AF is still here, but my mood is slight better. DH will be away from about CD10-13 this month. I usually ovulate around CD16, so fingers crossed it'll be a normal cycle for me, otherwise it'll be a write off.

triplespin I've been ttc for a year now. It's 6mo since the last MC, and before that I've always get my bfp within 3mo of trying. I really feel something went wrong since the last MC.

oltt I can imagine that must feel like a lifetime if pre mc it took you only 3 months. 6-12 months is a long time. I hope the GP is receptive of your concerns.

It is really quiet here. Maybe we will see some activity this Friday? Who else is joining me in POAS? I will be 10 DPO, so still a little early.

I also have a question regarding the 10miu hpt I have purchased from ebay. This is the first time I have bought these - they are basically like strips and the instructions only show with a cup. Can I still use them like the regular hpts and poas? There is also a max line, which is so low that it is impossible not to go beyond that when poas-ing !

triplespin I have got those from ebay. You'll need to pee in a pot first, and then dip the stick in the pot. If your normal poas is mid stream, then this is not your normal. But it's how they do it at the midwives too. I've still got the pot from my booking in appointment and I am using that.

Do you have a shot glass or old moisturizer container lying around? They'll be the right size/shape.

If you don't have anything, just buy a load of disposable cups/plastic glasses. Cheap as chips and you can bin them afterwards!

aaah thank you sal and oltt - at least I will have the right equipment for Friday poas ! I'll look for an old empty bottle lying around. Probably just when I need them the most, I will not find any !

tomkat, thanks for sharing that. I started on the dukan diet the week after I got pg (didn't know it at the time obviously) and I've always felt a twinge of guilt that maybe that contributed to my MC as I was depriving myself of carbs.

Getting pregnant has suddenly become a bit more urgent as I found out this week that I'm much more likely to be made redundant in the next year. I knew it was on the cards, but they have decided to accelerate the timing. My company has a great maternity package but I need to be past a certain week of pregnancy to get it. More stress!

I'm due to POAS on Friday. At the moment I'm swinging between desperately wanting to do it now, and thinking maybe I won't at all as I'm not sure i could bear another bfn. Not feeling the posifrickingtivity right now.

And I've lost DH for a few days to the new grand theft auto game. Just as well it isn't fertile week or I'd be resorting to the syringe! It ain't easy being a playstation widow

Penguinita GTA has been vetoed in this house due to fertile week being due to start soon
Hope everyone is doing OK and AFs aren't getting you too down. The only POAS I'll be doing this weekend is on an OPK with tightly crossed fingers...

Hello ladies - I've been lurking and also trying not to think about the roller coaster we're on - but every couple of days I pop in to see how everyone is doing. Have also been VERY down in the dumps and didn't want to make people feel any worse than they already do....

I had 2 pregnancy announcements last week - you might as well have slapped me in the face - it was so HARD to deal with, one is the mum of my DD's friend at nursery and the other lady lives 10 doors down from me - so will basically see both of them daily However after about an hour on my own I managed to be more rational and not want to cry all night! Honestly I am happy for them - but just really JEALOUS!!!

Sorry to see AF has arrived for so many - mine is due Thursday - really will be gutted AGAIN! However it is amazing how we manage to bounce back each month - all bright eyed and bushy tailed, ready to start again.

Good luck to all in the DTD week and remember our time will come!

I bumped into a very old friend the other day - she had seen me last year with my bump so I had to explain that I miscarried at 5 months and then again at 8 weeks.. any way she said she had 3 MC in between her 2 girls - it actually gave me hope to speak to her and hear her say that it will happen eventually. It also made me remember that so many of us go through problems so I mustn't glare at regnant women so much!

Blimey ladies - we are so strong you know!!! This is very hard! Thinking of you all and sorry I've been absent recently.

well today has been a mega rollercoaster. Went to see Gp and he was happy to start as on clomid as progestrone was so low. However AF was yet to turn up, so did 'cover the bases' test. BFP!!!!

Very shocked, GP warned that pregnancy is unlikely to be viable due to progesterone. Asked about taking supplements but he felt it really wouldn't help. So we got a another opinion from a private fertility Dr. They confirmed what GP said

SO I'm pregnant but unlikely to stay that way..............feel awful!

Oh cosmic how awful for you. I really hope they're wrong.

I've been having a pity party too recently so not really posted. Over 2 years ttc almost 1 year since I first got my bfp and still no closer :( On round 5 of clomid this month but not feeling hopeful.
Hope there's lots of bfps this Friday!

Wow cosmic, what a crazy and emotional day. Does low progesterone mean it is harder to get pregnant (sorry, a bit clueless about it) in which case surely that is a good sign? Is there anything you can do now to get your levels up? I'm not sure whether to say congratulations or not! Everything crossed for a sticky bean for you.

Livin, you clearly have far more control over your other half than I do...

Too right emki, we are a strong sisterhood living with our secret losses and grief. But I'd be a lot less strong without the support of the lovely ladies on here. Hope the evil witch stays away from you so you can leave the pity party and join the POAS party.

Oh cosmic what an awful position to be in. Here's hoping your bean confounds the medics and sticks. Can't they prescribe progesterone supplements anyway? I understand that there is no firm evidence to suggest that supplements can prevent MC, but there is a school of thought that says it can't hurt and there is a possibility that it might help, so why not try supplements? Cochrane Library review Here.

Emki* sorry to hear about the pregnancy annoncements, it is so hard to be happy for others when you just want what they want and there's a big part of you screaming IT'S JUST NOT FAIR! every time a BFP or birth is announced.

I've had a challenging day. Friend from university had a little girl this morning. Her DS is a week older than my DD and she is the last of my circle of friends to have her second child - only me left now. This afternoon at work a colleague for another dept who I see infrequently commented that I am starting to get a bit of a tummy now. I had to tell her it was just cake and I'd lost the baby 5 weeks ago. She was mortified. I was more concerned about not making her feel bad at the time.

penguin I understand how extra worrying it is having the treat of redundancy looming. We are currently reorganising and there is a strong possibility I could be made redundant by the end of the financial year (April 2014). I was due in March, which was excellent timing, as I would have been on mat leave when the axe fell, meaning I'd probably get my full mat pay, but now that's not going to happen and I could end up finally getting pregnant when I have no job to go on mat leave from. It's all a bit pants.

Hi Cosmic, why not get yourself some natural progesterone cream (easy to find on Ebay or Amazon) and just use it anyway. It might help a little bit and it certainly won't hurt. Fingers crossed very, very tightly for you. xxx

cosmic I'm sorry. It must be awful to know another mc is coming. Will the clomid help with future pregnancies? I thought it's an ovulation drug. Didn't know it raises progesterone as well?

Penguinita and Yorkshire my company has announced redundancies as well, and has started the consultation process. The goal is to get rid of 5% of the people. This followed a bumper year of profits too, which frankly sucks. I'm worried I won't get any maternity or a job go to back to too if I get lucky with the TTC.

cosmic so sorry to hear that. I don't know much - but didn't the low progesterone levels indicate that you were not ovulating? Clearly you were - so could it simply be the case of having had the tests on the wrong day - and hence sustaining this pregnancy should not be of more concern than it is for others. How many wks were you when you had your previous mc?

sorry to hear about the job woes. It is a tough one. I hope BFP would hurry along for all of you.

I am also feeling down today. I poas this morning - had to try the new strips (in my defense, it was an experiment) and got a BFN. I know it is still only 9DPO - but my temperature went down today as well just like last cycle where I had a drop around the same time which stayed low until a further drop before AF. So cycle 3 of TTC post mc is written off as well (which is also a new record for me). To make things worse my cold is at its peak and surprisingly I've realised the symptoms of cold and pregnancy are very similar - tiredness, lethargy and sharper awareness of smells (e.g. perfumes).

My blood test showed a level of progestrone about half what is needed to be boarder line for ovulation. But it seems my body still did. I've done lots of CBd tests and they are 50% 1-2 weeks and 50% 2-3 weeks which in taking to mean Im about 2 weeks pregnant. So blood was done at right time.

I'm not sure why they are so sure it's bad news, mainly I guess that it is against the odds and healthy pregnancy would start at higher level.

I guess there is a small chance of a happy ending but given the strangeness and doctors im not hopeful. I started off wanting to take progestrone supplements. But after 2 sets of advice and a lot of research I'm fairly convinced that it makes no difference to the 'take home baby rate'. I don't want extend things, it would be too hard.

Triple my last pregnancy was picked up as a missed miscarriage at 11 weeks but baby died between 8.5/ 9 weeks.

I'm not really sure what to feel, im following pregnant diet advice but otherwise will try to ignore the whole thing for a bit! I will be thinking if you all and keeping fingers crossed for Friday. But think I may hide away for a little while.

That's understandable cosmic, it is bound to take a while to get your head around things.

triple, don't give up hope yet, it is a bit early to test and it could be an implantation dip maybe?

Scary that so many of us are at risk of redundancy. As if we didn't have enough to worry about... If I was lucky enough to get pg then I would seriously consider waiting as long as possible before telling work, in case it made them boot me out earlier. I know they are not supposed to do that legally, but it would be difficult for me to prove their reasons.

I have really sore boobs at the moment. But I don't think it is a pg sign as it has happened every cycle since the MC, starting just after ovulation until AF arrives. I looked it up and it is linked to higher progesterone after ovulation. But I never noticed before the MC. Does anyone else get that?

Hi everyone

cosmic sorry to hear your news. I really hope that things work out for you, and this one beats the odds.

I sympathise with everyone who is surrounded by babies and announcements. It seems like every day a different celebrity announces a pregnancy, and we've just had a spate at work, a friend is pregnant, and I have a baby shower to go to on Saturday.
The one on Sat is particularly hard. She was about 3-4 weeks ahead of me and it's kind of hard to forget that I should have a bump too. She is the only one of the group going that knows I had a miscarriage, but I can hardly mention it to the others now. Also, she had to have IVF to get her baby, so I feel bad that I'm jealous when she's had a hard time too.

Anyway. Off to acupunture shortly. And Friday I have a doctor's appointment. It's not for fertility as I've too many other things going on, but I'll mention I am thinking of making an appointment for that and will see what they say.

have a nice evening everyone
x

I'm so sorry cosmic. I will keep everything crossed that the doctors turn out to be wrong.

I finally got a positive opk on CD22...whilst on holiday with my parents as predicted! Before MC I had a regular 28 or 29 day cycle but I guess that's not going to happen now.

It seems like everyone is struggling to remain positive at the moment. We really need some good news on Friday!

penguinita I didn't tell work until after the 20week scan and results. (That would be about 21 week iirc). I don't trust them not to give me the boot for one reason or other either. As long as you aren't really showing, you don't have to tell until 15 weeks before EDD. Of course if your work is somehow hazardous to pregnant women, like chemicals, heavy lifting, it is different.