The Elderberry Pavlovas who will graduate (thread 12)

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Roll up, roll up for the best discussions of ewcm, opk, ic and double dying you'll ever have. Probably.

The smallprint - Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 3+months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot) and def no mention of baby dust or baby dancing UGH !!! Ooh we are strict...please note your house may be at risk if you do not keep up repayments lol

No from Yorkshire boom, or a teacher... but hoping for a cat as my birthday present when we move

star so what do you think of the new doctor? Great actor! But as always only time will tell, I didn't like Matt till he got started!

Peter Capaldi! So many people thought it would be him but I didn't think they would do it.

Blind What drugs are you getting? My IVF ones have to go in the fridge too. Don't worry about doing injections. Really easy and painless.

Not a Yorkshire lass either I'm afraid, and not a teacher, (although I am a Brownie leader for my sins, so I am enjoying the break over the hols!) and more of a dog person but I do like cats ;)
Aqua- our juicer is a Philips, had to order it from Germany in the end as they were out of stock for miles around.It seems pretty good so far but we've only had it a week.
kitty he's pretty good most of the time with his diet and we cook good gf meals together, & he has his gf bread etc. but he does sneak in the odd sausage roll! As his count came back as normal it seems ok, but hopefully the new diet should improve things further.
I'm CD20 of 27, in the middle of another 2ww but being good & not testing :)
Good luck with the house moves, testing etc, x

Wahoo, another cycle buddy! Snow, you are formally invited to Bunny's and my pimping party!

We like dawgs too around here - Boomdogs I and II are currently driving me bonkers chasing each other round the living room. The Boomcats are unimpressed.

I'm not a Dr Who fan unfortunately, and I don't know who this new doctor is anyway. But hope he's a good one for those who watch!

In other news, (and this may seem a little weird) Mr Boom and I have chosen our future daughter's name today - not on purpose, I happened to mention in passing that I thought a girl's name was beautiful and he agreed and then we had a bit of an exchange of knowing looks and he said, 'well that's that decided then'. Had BETTER be knocked up now so we can use it before someone pinches it! (I'm not ignoring the possibility of a boy, we already had a boy's name picked before the mc last year, but hadn't agreed on a girl's one). Am I too odd for words?

pip clomid (100mg unless I can convince fc 50mg), menopur and something that sounds like a transformer (maybe ovutron?). How about you?

snow I'd crack the whip and make sure he's not even sneaking sausage rolls!

Oh juicers, I used to sell juicers.

There are two types of juicers, masticating (stop sniggering at the back) and centrifugal. The centrifugal ones grate the fruit or veg while a basket spins. The juice gets thrown out of the basket through holes while the left over pulp stays in the middle.
Masticating ones chew up the fruit and spits out the juice.
Conventional wisdom is that masticating ones are better but more expensive. They can deal with tougher stuff like wheatgrass etc.

If you have a magimix then you can buy a juicing basket attachment. I think I have one somewhere. One thing worth knowing is that to juice oranges you will need a citrus press to get the best results.

No Boom you are not odd.
I am most annoyed because we had chosen George for a boy, and now we can't really have it because of royals!

Blind I'm on Sepcur, or something, and Gonal F injections and then after egg collection I have some progesterone pessaries.

kitty DH is a recovered coeliac apparently (go figure) and reflex lady reckons he could still have gut issues which could affect things! He sure does love bread! And is always tired!

boom and snow I'm not testing either, I am certain that by mid week AFs evil cousin will be visiting me, lucky me I get a warning that AF is coming

P.s. LOVE the idea of a superhero called ovutron fighting to save the worlds ovaries and perhaps Sepcur is a Greek god of Berries yes I watched Percy and the lightning thief earlier

P.p.s. pip you said masticate

Rude of the Royals pip! Luckily I suspect that even if they get re-sprogged before me (which they WON'T) they'd be unlikely to use either of ours...

Oh, and a masticating juicer is basically my life's ambition but they're so expensive. I find an old fashioned hand squeezer is best for orange juice, it's ok from the juicer but takes longer and is more faff!

I think he will do good, he's got that kooky look about him, like you say time will tell. I'm wondering if I start blubbing at Matt Smiths regeneration like I did at David Tennents!! Bound sure to fall at a hormonal time hahaha!!

Hi Berries, old and new! I've been away for a friend's significant birthday this weekend, but it's nice to return to see some new people venturing into the fold. Hi Star, Fox and Snow!

I'm on CD20 too (well, heading quickly into CD21 as the clock approaches midnight). Thing this cycle is game over; have been spotting since CD15 and I'm wondering whether there is a clomid link. I'm going for blood tests tomorrow. If they show ovulation but AF turns up 9DPO as usual I'm going to be mighty cross!

So barking are your chosen names weird like table for a boy and asparagus for a girl

Good to see you boodle boooo to the spotting!

star I loved DT but not so keen on MS although he has grown on me so not sure if I will cry like last time, although by Christmas I'm bound to be diffed and hormonal yeah?!?

Wow on the holiday DTDing barking, are you having a good time?

Hello berries!

I haven't posted on here for a few months now because I was getting a bit obsessed and making myself very sad. Feeling much more positive now, and very pleased to see that there have been some BFPs while I've been gone!

I know it's a bit cheeky to pop up out of the blue like this and start asking for help, but I am in a bit of a dilemma and I know you will be the best people to offer advice.

So.....basically after coming off the pill last summer, I had a number of very irregular periods (2 weeks, 6 weeks, 2 weeks etc.) then they disappeared altogether for 5 months. By the end of the 5th month, my doctor finally agreed to refer me to a specialist. So of course my period started the very next day! I probably should have cancelled the appointment then, but I know how hard it is for people to get seen, so I didn't want to give up the chance and then have to wait months to get another appointment.

Appointment finally came around last week, and while waiting for it I have had 2 periods. Not enough to really know if I have a cycle, but both times I have noticed ewcm, which I had never noticed before, so I feel a bit hopeful that I might be starting to be a little bit normal. When I spoke to specialist, he said my periods need to be properly regular before they can do any other tests, so he has given me 4 months worth of Provera (a progesterone tablet to kick my cycle into touch) and said to come back again after the 4 months is up.

My problem is that after a bit of internet research, I have found that it is very unlikely that someone will get pregnant if they are taking Provera - so do I take it or not? I know that it is very unlikely that I will get pregnant anyway (we have DTD like mad since I first noticed the ewcm after 5 barren months, and with no luck) so I guess I should just get on with taking it, write off the next 4 months and hope that things move on after that.

However, as I said, I am feeling a bit more normal now and if by chance my periods are doing all right naturally, then I REALLY don't want to waste another 4 months waiting with no chance of getting knocked up. At the moment I am waiting for my next period to start (have to start tablets on CD5) but if it AF comes when I am expecting her, suggesting a naturally regular cycle, then what shall I do? I am worried that if I go back to the gyno in 4 months saying 'Well actually I didn't take those tablets you gave me as I seemed pretty regular anyway' then he will be cross and send me away for another 4 months.

What would you do?

(I should just say that, despite the confusion, I am obviously happy that someone has seen me, and that things are presumably on the right track. I just can't take the waiting anymore. I am finding it harder and harder to deal with people's comments, and actually avoided a rare family get-together last week as I knew there would be so many well-meaning questions and suggestions that I just didn't want to deal with. I'm just making a big fuss right?!)

P.S. Should add that I did not do the sensible thing, and explain these concerns to the doctor, because I am a big wet blanket and was terrified that he would kick me out of the door. Eejit.

Hey haycorn. Tough dilemma. Here's what I would do... If AF arrives as normal I would chart the hell out of this cycle without taking the tablets (so do temps, OPKs and cm charting). It's the best possible way of confirming you are ovulating without blood tests. Assuming you ovulate I would not take the tablets and just carry on as normal -it sounds as though your cycles just needed time to settle down (mine took 6 months). If you don't seem to ovulate start the tablets next month and the doc never needs know

Hello Haycorn good to see you!
When you say you had 2 periods, how long were they? Were they regular? If you've had 2 of 'normal' length and AF arrives when you're expecting it which would make 3 'normal' cycles I wouldn't bother with the tablets for this cycle but as merk suggested, I'd temp carefully all the way through and use opks. If Ov is happening then hallelujah, if it isn't you start the tablets next cycle round.

Of course AF might not arrive at all for much better reasons .

Bunny I think it was Boom who said her names were unlikely to be snaffled by the royals. I was also wanting George for a boy as it's a family name, but they've ruined that now . If we get a girl I'd like to use my Grandma's name but not sure if DP would go for it. It's quite old and she's the only person I've met with the name.
Holiday is going great thanks .

Hello new ppl! two days left of holiday for me boo!

today I am in the lovely state of 'maybe hopefulness' just before af arrives!

you know the one!? im having the usual twingy feelings and she is due tomorrow buuuuut! you just never know and can still hope!

ill be back tomoro to tell u its cd1! ha ha!

Hey you guys, quiet rainy afternoon on my end, the house is empty and will be again tomorrow, bliss!!

I put my big girl panties on and called a private FC today. I think if I ever opt to change careers, working in the office of a FC would be a dream - I'm half in love with the lady I spoke to; she was so nice and comforting and let me know they were happy to do whatever I wanted/needed them to do, and it was all up to me. Big change from having to "state my case" and beg for simple things from my GP in the past, but there you go. Bottom line is I'm having an AMH test done next week, with a consult/hycosy/antrical follicle count done at the start of my next cycle, if there is one (hey God if you're reading this, they do give full refunds for cancellations, hint hint).

Has anyone had an AMH and/or AFC done? I've never really read up on either. Time to hit the books, and also to get serious about cleaning up my diet.

Thanks for the supportive messages about calling. I feel terribly sad that none of this has gone as I'd expected, but hopeful that some of these tests will either show us a way forward, or ease my mind that there truly is nothing wrong, apart from impatience.

aaaaand shag fortnight has started so let the obsessive PIMPing, CBFMing, preseeding, Robitussin-ing and bum pillow-ing commence

will catch up on thread tomorrow properly!!

Sid that's great news! Well done for the bravery, bet the relief after that call was great!

Evening Berries. Another quick check in whilst I can get wifi. Hello and welcome to all the Newbies I'm usually far more obsessive a much more regular poster but I'm currently away on hols.
Well done Sid for taking that first step. I remember getting quite upset when I first went to the GP as felt we were finally admitting that there was something wrong. Its far better once things start moving as feels like you're actually getting somewhere.
Barking good effort on DTD. Everything going to plan here too. Due to OV anytime now and managed EOD and more this cycle so fingers crossed! Off to indulge in a few more cocktails now. Have a good week all!

Hi haycorn I agree with merk give it another cycle and see how you go

boom and barking sorry for confusion!

puppy hope the witch doesn't get you!

Good for you sid yay!

Anything new with anyone?!?

happy ah hope you're having a lovely time! I think I actually salivated when you mentioned cocktails then (not had a drop for 5 weeks )

puppy are you having fun? Where are you?

boom I'm dying to know what your names are now!

sid good plan re private fc

barking omg you're like a sex machine this month!

hay perhaps wait for your af first. If no show then I guess you'll need the provera and have to right it off. Oh and don't feel bad about coming to ask questions, that's what we're here for

So in my news I called the hospital and disputed my clomid dosage with iui. My prog levels at 100mg were 115! I've googled it and normal levels seem to be about 10-30. So the nurse agreed I can reduce to 50mg, just can't understand why the fc was so set on 100mg! Really can't afford to waste an iui because of the fc's incompetence!