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hopefulgum · 05/07/2013 11:54

Starting the new thread for you wonderful ladies before I fly off into the sunset.

May this thread bring us the happy news we've all been waiting for. Grin

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hopefulgum · 10/10/2013 10:16

G'day girls, I'm back home!

It is good to hear all your news.

mozza, I am glad you could hear your baby's heartbeat. I know it's a tough time for you (hugs).

Green, I hope your Dh can get his arse into gear and get those tests done! I'd be feeling frustrated too.

Morien, I am so happy to hear all is well with your little Flowers girl Flowers. How exciting for you. Are you discussing name choices?

Speaking of which, Sparkly, did you name your daughter? Will we be able to hear what the name is???

Deige, what you say makes complete sense to me. If there has been no spotting or bleeding, why not take another look? I agree, if you can avoid the C-section safely, why not? It means you won't have to worry about the recovery so much.

Irish, I am chuffed for you! So pleased all is well with your LO. You give me such a lot of hope Grin

There's lots I could say about the trip (blimey, is there ever), but the upshot is that I had a pleasant time, enjoyed some kid free time, and enjoyed a little bit of shopping (not too much, mind, I just bought a lovely new cooker).

In all honesty, I am a bit confused about the choice my sister has made. I don't disapprove of the new man, but I cannot really understand why he is a better model than the last one IYSWIM? Of course it is none of my business, but I really expected to find my Dsis relaxed and happy, being fully herself, but that's not what I found. She seems different and awkward around the new fella, and he's not the charming intellectual love god she made him out to be. He's really rather ordinary, and though I know I can't make any judgements after only two nights with them, I much prefer her DH, who to me, seems more grounded, real and just nicer. And TBH I now feel much sadder than I did before about their marriage splitting. For the longest time I just wanted my sister to get on with starting her new life, so she could be happy, but I cannot see that this man will be the answer, and I cannot believe she's giving up her kids and Dh to be with him.

I haven't said anything at all to her about it (unloading on you, sorryHmm), but I can't help feeling she is making the biggest mistake of her life. I think the "excitement" will wear thin soon and she won't be able to get back what she had before. But she is a grown up and she has to deal with the consequences of her actions. Sadly, so do her children. Sad

Anyway, I am very, very happy to come home to my gorgeous family. I really didn't enjoy the traffic (I prefer the sleepy little town I live in), and the huge distances to go anywhere( my sister lives very north of the city). It was nice to catch up with my eldest son, but that also left me feeling a bit sad. My poor boy is struggling to make a life for himself in the big city, his work place is about and hour and half from where he lives (on public transport). He has a car, but it has broken down and he cannot afford to fix it. My instinct is to bundle him up and bring him home, especially as he says he'd rather be in the country, but he couldn't find a job here, and I much prefer the friends he has in the city who are all nice kids from the country who are making a go of it there. When he was down here, unemployed, he was hanging out with some pretty dodgy characters. He's hoping to move closer to his workplace, so hopefully things will improve for him. All I want is for him to be happy. He's had a rough trot since finishing school, I wish I could wave a magic wand and make life easier for him, but I guess this is his life journey, and he will grow and learn from whatever comes his way.

Gosh, isn't parenting hard???Even when they are 22 years old, we still worry!

So nice to hear everyone's news. Keep us updated!

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jass43 · 10/10/2013 20:09

Morien, good to hear all is well! If you find no one interested in
UK for these opks please can you send them to me? I am just running out of my last batch, I am having late OV this cycle and have already used like 10, still no positive,.....

Diege, placenta previa and start of labour issue - I would be in hospital like a flash and I really can not understand your midwife being so vague about it. It is not a first child, for gods sake, you can dilate to 10 within an hour, while you establish whether you are truly in labour. I would say, 5 contractions feeling like real thing and off you go. If they die down later, do not apologise, it is far more important to reach hospital in time. No waiting, if you start dilating, the placenta will risk to come unstuck, if it is really sitting on the cervix, and its then a matter of minutes. Do not want to scare you, but please careful...

Good news about mozzarella and Irish scans, too.
Also, had fun reading the Diege and gum show. Good you keep the sofa nice and warm!

Typing on iPad onehandedly, DS2 is hugging the other before sleep. He has been sad today, not saying why. So I sit a bit with this little man of 8 years who never admits what I wrong.

Rainy, according to your opks your timing should be spot on. Just keep checking and make sure you DtD also the first day it starts to move back to neg again.

jass43 · 11/10/2013 18:31

Now I managed to kill the thread:-) still no sign of OV, normally after chem I have it. Ike in normal cycle. Not this time obviously...

hopefulgum · 11/10/2013 23:42

Hi Jass. You haven't killed the thread! Sometimes it is very slow moving. I feel I have nothing to add, I just seem to ramble about my life, which has almost nothing to do with ttc.

Sorry that ovulation is missing in action. I know you said that normally after a chemical you get right back on track, perhaps this time it will take a little longer to settle back to normal.

As for me, I think ovulation will come up in the next week or so. Already I am seeing a difference with taking the red clover isoflavones - there's alot more slippery CM, which is unusual for me. Hopefully I will have a reasonable amount of EWCM this time. I've started the run up to ovulation - DTD every second night, then maybe get an extra one in around O.

I often wonder if waiting for the positive opk is a mistake. That we should keep the "pipes" flushed, so that there's plenty of fresh sperm, but then again, you don't want to overdo it,as I have heard the older blokes need a day to catch up and build sperm reserves. But then again, you hear story after story of women accidentally getting knocked up from DTD once in their cycle, don't you?

I read on Fertility Friend forums yesterday that one lady's gynaecologist suggested she use contraception in her mid forties because there were three women in the waiting room in their forties who "accidentally" fell pregnant. I like to hear stuff like that, so much more positive than the doom and gloom some doctors dish out.

I worked out that even if my chance is only 1% (and I am willing to give myself the benefit of the doubt and believe it is higher than that), that means out of 100 cycles, I'd get pregnant once. Well I've done about 50 or so cycles in the last 4 years and have gotten pregnant 3 times. So I have already beaten the odds! And I have done 18 cycles since the last miscarriage, and I reckon my chances are more like 3%, so in about 15 more cycles I should get a pregnancy! Grin This is layman's math, I am pretty hopeless with numbers. But despite those shit odds, I still believe I can have one more pregnancy. And I am hoping it will be by this christmas. Fingers crossed....

I had a lovely day yesterday. My DD finished swimming lessons and passed her grade. She's really happy with that. DS stopped going on Tuesday - as I'd gone away- but mainly because the chlorine caused such terrible eczema for him. Poor wee lamb was covered in it and very,very itchy. He'll start back with the weekly lessons on Monday, but he seems to be able to tolerate it once a week.

Anyway, I Also went to the big garden centre and picked up some vegetable seedlings, and some little potplants to put in the mini greenhouse I bought from Ikea when I was in the city.I am very pleased with the result. There's a corner of my living room which is starting to look like a page from the Ikea catalogue.Shock Of this I am not proud! But I can't help but love Ikea's affordable furniture, this placed would be half empty if it wasn't for Ikea!

DH spent all day outside making me a rose arbour for my massive,leggy Cecile Brunner rose, and also a trellis for the passionfruit vine. I am very happy about that.

It's Saturday, so I am visiting the farmer's market, having a big swim at the pool (haven't been since Monday which feels weird) then probably meet a friend for a cuppa. Happy Days Smile

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jass43 · 12/10/2013 08:23

Hopeful, statistics is on your side actually. Because, the averages come from both ends - women who do not fall preg once in 3 years and then you, 3 pregnancies in three years. Hence, you have a trend to outperform the averages, and this trend continues. On the other hand, unknown factors can influence trending, so one never knows. The beauty of it is that there is always the chance that all your troubles are over just in few weeks time and a baby snuggles nicely in. The same factor is also the curse of it - if we knew for sure that it is a no go, we would stop trying and count our blessings - which both you and me are lucky to have in rather high numbers. I always, when I feel down, think about women who have no kids and are still desperately trying in mid 40s, it helps.....

I have been gluten free and dairy free for a week, hoping it will help me on this journey, and taking vitamin B6 for the first time as well. Tis should help with sort Luteal phase. Will try to add Coq10, but Luxembourg does not seem to provide that supplement at least no tin the supermarkets. As pharmacies have stupid opening hours, have not been able to check their counters yet. Maybe today...
Nice weekend to everybody!

mozzarellamummy · 12/10/2013 14:01

Hello everybody! I'm stuck in my car with dd asleep..I'm afraid she will wake up if I try to bring her back home..I'm steadily getting used to my naughty students..however I really find hard to handle them and keep control of the class..we called some parents to come and listen about their kids' behaviour.. I hope they'll help in some way..
Working in three schools is quite tiring and when back home I'm really knackered..I didn't remember being so tired
during previous pregnancies ..I know I can't complain, but I really hope it will get better..I feel centuries older than last times, and probably it's also because I'm much more worried..(gum thanks for your hugs!)
diege I hope this last appointment can clarify definitely the best delivery..
morien happy to know everything is fine!!
notsoold .. How many days left for you?

hopefulgum · 13/10/2013 00:11

Good Morning ladies.

Jass, I agree, about counting blessings, I do know how many I have. I can't help but want to add to those blessings though!

Coq10 seems to be the latest of the great supplements for ttc, and "ubiquinol" is the best, which I can't buy from my supermarket, I buy mine online.

I have been taking the red clover isoflavones this cycle and I am amazed at the difference in CM. Maybe this will help bring a THB to me? I am mainly hoping for a thicker lining for an emby to snuggle into.

Mozza, I am not surprised that you feel tired, especially working in three schools! Can't you work in just one? Also I imagine it is just the pregnancy, coupled with work and a young daughter that is making you feel so tired, regardless of your age. It will all be worth it, but I know how hard that tiredness is.

I feel so tired at the end of every busy day that I wonder if I could cope with another pregnancy. Actually, it wouldn't be so much about me coping, it is about the rest of the family coping without me to do almost everything! I guess I would be using my delegation skillsGrin

Today is the last day of the school holidays. We are a bit sad about that. We love the slower pace. DS3 was in tears yesterday at the thought of going back to school and daycare.

My naughty DH organised to play golf all day with his friends, but has now cancelled after I reminded him that we always save the last day of the holidays for just us as a family. It was originally his idea, so I was a bit cross with him. However, he was happy to cancel, so we'll have a cruisey day at home, but finish with a drink with our neighbours/friends who are also teachers.

Have a happy Sunday...Wine

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jass43 · 13/10/2013 07:55

I am rubbish at Internet shopping, but will try to find ubiquinol then someplace which delivers Europe. It seems that most places I look deliver US or UK. Logic, if you consider I only check English. I can not read German well enough to order from German shops and French are generally not so online.

This cycle no OV, I guess it is established. CD 18 and nothing, my cycle is a short 25-26 day one. Or maybe I will get late OV and late period.

prambo2thereturn · 13/10/2013 12:30

I hope you don't mind my butting in here (I used to be GoldenGirl) but I have come across something rather interesting over on the Assisted Conception thread which was posted by a lovely lady who recently miscarried her IVF baby at eight weeks. She has had extensive (and very expensive) tests carried out to look at reasons why she has miscarried and here is her post:

'So, I had my follow-up with the consultant. All chromosomes were normal as were all the tests in my recurrent miscarriage panel, bar one. I have a double copy of the same MTHFR gene. Yes, I read it as the motherfucker gene too. With a name (Almost) like that it is the one part of this whole process that has finally made sense.

So, it increases the risk of miscarriage but the good news is it can be neutralised by prescription strength folic acid (5mg as opposed to the standard 400ug)'

I know miscarriage and chemicals have been frequent occurrences on here and I hope you don't mind my posting but I found this tidbit fascinating in its simplicity. You just never know..

I wish you all the very best x

Morien · 13/10/2013 20:18

A quick hello from me. jass of course you can have the OPKs - PM me with your address and I'll pop them in the post.

Lost my whole Sunday as had to get an early flight to Vilnius as am working here tomorrow till Thurs, so was feeling a bit peeved. Have ended up having a lovely relaxing day though (I was here by early afternoon), a swim, a long bath with a good book, bit of yoga in my room...hadn't realised how long it had been since I really had nothing to do but relax, and how much I needed it.

Have a good week, everyone.

Morien · 13/10/2013 20:20

I keep losing messages!

A really brief version this time: jass of course you can have the OPKs - PM me with your address.

Hello to everyone else - hope you all have a good week.

Morien · 13/10/2013 20:21

Oops, it wasn't lost after all!

hopefulgum · 13/10/2013 23:50

Good morning ladies.

Diege, it has been a few days, you've not gone and had the baby have you???

Morien,it sounds like you had a lovely Sunday.Vilnius looks like a beautiful city. I'm curious, what is your job that requires you to fly all over the place? No need to tell me if you'd rather not.

Thanks, prambo, for that information. It is amazing that something like that can be easily fixed with high doses of folic acid. Does one have to be prescribed it? I suppose you could just take a handful of folic acid daily? After my second miscarriage I was checked for everything, including the MTHFR gene. It wasn't my issue. I am pretty sure mine is all down to old age, so I wait patiently Hmm for a healthy egg. I would love to do donor egg, but that's not an option for me.

I had a lovely Sunday too. I took DS3 to a big playground in town, met up with his cousins and they played for a couple of hours. It was sunny and warm. Looks like today will be too. Have to make the most of it as I am back at work tomorrow. I have a new passionfruit vine to plant, a lovely yellow rose to plant and need to do a bit of a tidy up before the school rush tomorrow. I also have to take DS to swimming lessons. SO it looks like today will be busy again...Smile

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isadorable · 14/10/2013 10:54

Just a quick hello from me to wish Diege luck for the c-section if you haven't given birth already that is. Delighted to see all those pregnant are doing so well. Morien - I lived in Vilnius for 6 months in 2005. Interesting place - I picked the coldest snowiest time to live there!

Just returned from spending time with my dad. It is heart breaking seeing this happen to him. Tried to make the best of the time we had and I know I'll be back next month. He loved seeing my dd though she was a little madam a lot of the time!

diege · 14/10/2013 18:09

Hello! Just a mega quick one. Baby Laurie was born 3 days ahead of his section date Friday 11th oct, 8ib 9ozs at 38 weeks and 3 days. Went into labour naturally on Thursday morning and admitted fri night. Still section as scans on labour ward showed placenta very low indeed. Back home this afternoon, feeling fine but very tired and sore. Will put some piccies on profile over next few days and try and read back later to see what I have missed Smile

Morien · 14/10/2013 18:14

Congratulations diege ThanksThanksThanks What wonderful news.

Irishmammybread · 14/10/2013 18:49

Congratulations Diege !
So glad it all went well and baby Laurie arrived safely. Hope you are being looked after , getting plenty of rest and make a speedy recovery from your section! Can't wait to see some photos xxx

BecauseIsaidS0 · 14/10/2013 19:33

Hi Edamame, I'm exactly in the same boat after you! Just about to turn 40 in December, married for three months, trying since we tied the knot.

isadorable · 14/10/2013 20:34

Congratulations diege and welcome laurie!

hopefulgum · 14/10/2013 23:11

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So pleased that you and baby are fine, can't wait to see the pictures. I'm in tears here (happiness of course!). I'm looking forward to hearing all about baby Laurie, how the kids are enjoying him, and how you are, when you have a spare moment...

It is inspiring to see how well all the pregnancies are going. Isa, I am glad your father was able to enjoy your DD, she would be such a gift to him whilst he is unwell. Great that you can go back next month.

Back to work for me today.I love the slower pace (despite how it sounds with everything I do) of holidays, and I am glad it is only 10 weeks until our summer break. The sun is shining again today, and it is starting to feel like the promise of summer. Lots of beach days I hope. I love it!

Welcome BecauseIsaidSo, this is a great thread to hang around in.

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mumalah · 15/10/2013 01:13

Congratulations Deige
Hello to everyone im still hanging about, just not much to say xxx

CaliBee · 15/10/2013 08:13

Congrats to Diege and welcome to baby Laurie.....he was born on my dd1's 24th birthday:).
I feel old....very very old.

hopefulgum · 15/10/2013 11:45

Hello Mumalah and Calibee, it is really nice to see you both, it has been too long.

I'd love to hear what is going on for both of you.

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sparklysapphire · 15/10/2013 12:03

Congratulations diege on the safe arrival of baby Laurie. I hope you are being looked after, and taking it as easy as you can.xx

mozzarellamummy · 15/10/2013 14:40

Megacongratulations diege!!!
Take a good rest and enjoy this precious time with baby Laurie.. Smile

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