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hopefulgum · 05/07/2013 11:54

Starting the new thread for you wonderful ladies before I fly off into the sunset.

May this thread bring us the happy news we've all been waiting for. Grin

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diege · 04/09/2013 08:15

Arghh Gum I feel your frustration! Putting my sensible head on the spot of blood is NOT your af and yes, a bfp wuld take at least 24-36 hrs to appear after implantation spotting. It may well be a wtf cycle, but I appreciate the 'not knowing' is awful Sad.
I must rush as first day back at school and don't want ds to be late on his first day!

hopefulgum · 04/09/2013 09:21

Well, the universe just gave me a big fat raspberry, and AF has shown up this afternoon. So it was just a 13 day lp. Not really a big difference to normal. However I was very silly to get my hopes up. So, yes Diege, a WTF cycle. Bugger!Sad

Today has been a full-on busy day and I am tired and cranky. Unfortunately it meant that I was a little curt with a colleague who has been extremely annoying for some time now, and it was the final straw today. I have a feeling she will stay out of my way from now on. I know I will certainly avoid her! Blush

I just barely had a moment to breathe today. Now I have to take DD back into town (another 40 mins in the car) for netball training. I usually swim, but tonight I am dropping her and coming home (DH will pick up), I am shattered and I am going to listen to my body and rest.

I feel a bit sad, but I know that it will lift in a day or two. I will try again this month. My DH is scheduled to be away again during my fertile time (FFSAngry!) so I am going to suggest that DS and I tag along for fun and that we stay in a nice hotel. He'll be worried about the dollars, but I feel we could use a weekend away and I really don't want to miss another chance.

So sorry for the self-indulgent post. It's that awful time of my cycle where I feel exhausted and not exactly enthused about trying again.

Love to all. I hope Sparklybaby is doing well. Grin

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sparklysapphire · 04/09/2013 11:52

Hi all, DD2 arrived somewhat more speedily than expected after induction whem nothing happened for hours, then 2.5 hour labour, early hours of Tuesday morning.Shes feeding & sleeping well, DD1 has really taken 2 her little sis, Im ok, & DH seems to be accepting her. I'll update when I can, thsnks for all your good wishes.

isadorable · 04/09/2013 12:52

Welcome to the world, beautiful tiny sapphire! Your mummy really is a wonderful, determined lady! Big congratulations to you all, sparkly. Delighted DD is enjoying being a big sister. My very best wishes that everything now falls into place for you and your family. xx

JBrd · 04/09/2013 12:55

Welcome, baby sapphire! And well done, sparkly, hope you're recovering well and getting plenty of rest! All the best xxx

diege · 04/09/2013 13:41

Many congratulations sparkly, I'm delighted for you Smile Can't wait for full update and a picky if possible!
Sorry about af gum Sad. Bad enough when it happens without the 'teasing' you got this time... On the plus side, you have very good LPs - don't think mine has been more than 10/11 days (with agnus castus help) for years!
Off to have a filling at the dentists now Will also have ds1 with me so will have to (wo)man up and try and keep cool...

Irishmammybread · 04/09/2013 22:47

Congratulations sparklysapphire and a big welcome to the world to your precious little jewel ! xxx

Thank you everyone for your good wishes for me, your support means a lot!

gum what a frustrating cycle, I've had several too over the last year with a day of spotting,a gap and then AF starts. When you're working so hard and then being "Mum's taxi" too it's no wonder you feel frazzled. A few nights away in a good hotel sounds ideal,hope you can manage to sort that out!

Diege hope the dental appointment wasn't too terrible!

notsoold · 04/09/2013 22:51

Congrats baby sapphire!!!! You are here with us!!!

Sorry about af gum!!! Life is a b*h sometimes!!!

Congratulations Irish.... Please do tell us when news are as good as yours!!!

Cali I m very happy for you settling in NI.

Jbrd thinking of you!!!!

Diege I am right behind you :)

Dh and ds back to school. I was very annoyed that a PE shirt and a PE top cost £39!!!! Incredible really :(

To everyone else I didn't mention by name I send a big hug!!!!

hopefulgum · 05/09/2013 00:23

ThanksWelcome to the world little SapphireThanks I have a little lump in my throat as I type this. I am so happy for you Smile

Thanks to everyone for the commiserations. Sorry to be a whiney Wendy. This journey has been long and arduous and it feels like I will never reach the place I wanted to go to. I might end up at a different destination and I find that very frustrating.

Actually, Diege, I wonder too, if the longer LP and also a heavier AF is a good thing. I hope it means that my uterus etc is in good shape and that may mean that I have a better chance at a baby.

I honestly believe there was damage done with the second ERPC. I didn't have proper periods for ages, then when they came back they were shorter than ever, and very light. These days the flow is a lot better. Perhaps it has taken a long time to heal? I will probably never know. With the last BFP, that ended very early (6 weeks), I had an ultrasound but nothing was mentioned about damage, but who knows if they can see that sort of thing, and it was in a Dr's office, so not the best high resolution machine.

I have been up with DS from 5:30 and working my butt off before I even start my usual routine. I have parents night at work tonight (as a teacher, not a parent), so I have to be back at work from 5-7pm. So I have been busy cooking the DC's dinner and prepping for mine and DH's dinner (we are fasting today and can't eat the kid's super cheesey pasta bake (yum)). I am also going away for the weekend straight after work (my knitting club weekend awayGrin) so need to organise stuff for that.

I will need a rest this weekend!

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diege · 05/09/2013 19:20

Gum it sounds manic at the moment for you! Thought the knitters' weekend sound blissful Envy. What sort of things will you be doing? (not much knitting I presume? Grin))
A close friend has just had a 9 week scan where baby is measuring 6 weeks, no heartbeat yet, and she has also started spotting. That's not good is it? (she's sure of her dates). She's having to wait a week before going back as they won't 'do' anything just yet. Brings back memories of my mcs, really feel for her, and makes me appreciate what I have far more!
Hope everyone is ok - early night for me as woke at 2.30am last night and was still awake until 6ish...combination of ds2, dh's snoring Angry and generally insomnia!

jass43 · 05/09/2013 20:25

Sparkly, huge congratulations!

Gum, sorry the af got you.
Mine is getting ready to leave and I am trying to find my motivation to do OV tests soon. Cd 5 here, so still room to get more enthusiastic about it ....sigh.

mozzarellamummy · 05/09/2013 21:43

Lots of hugs to sparkly baby!
already had some meetings at school, but actually starting to teach on monday .. I am just a little bit worried..Please wish me good luck (taking good luck for TTC as already included in the wish!)

hopefulgum · 05/09/2013 23:38

Yes, Diege, a bit manic. Fortunately for me I have such a lot of support from my older children. They are such lovely,lovely kids (people). My DS (who lasted only a week in the city at Uni,and returned home because he missed the country and home so much) is living with us and part of the deal is that he tidies up everyday, takes care of the breakfast dishes, cooks twice a week and has to put laundry on twice a week. It really helps. He's also available for a fair amount of babysitting. He has a motorbike license, but not a car license (we're hoping he will get it on Tuesday), so I am looking forward to when he can also run the other kids around. My daughters are such capable girls, always willing to help with DS(5).

So, although I do have a lot of juggling (who doesn't?) I have help too.

Parent's night went well. But it is time consuming and meant that my brain didn't wind down til about midnight. Then I had a horrible night's sleep - cramps and backache (AF? I don't usually have it). So I got up at 5 am after being awake for ages, a hot water bottle, heat patch and ibuprofen seem to have banished the cramps and backache. The bummer is I will be quite tired for my first night away and will probably have to go to bed early!

We do actually knit on our weekend away, but there's also loads of chatting, laughing,eating,drinking and even a bit of shopping. The destination is only about 30 minutes drive from town, so not too far. It is a lovely seaside village, so we may do some walking too. It will be nice to just get away from all the rushing and demands of family life.

It looks like I might only have DH away for one night (during fertile time), as there's been a couple of invitations that weekend. He said he may even change his appointment in the big city, which means I won't have to tag along and we should get plenty of SWI,hopefully. I have armed myself with some opks.

I recently read a book called The impatient women's guide to getting pregnant. I bought it after someone on here linked an article the author wrote. The book didn't tell me anything new, and wasn't particular positive about women over 41, but she did say a lot about how important timing is, and that the percentage of women getting pregnant when using opks and/or a fertility monitor is much higher than the estimates we hear in the media, particularly for the 35-39 age group. She explains how many of the stats are just not relevant.

Anyway, it has helped me realise just how important timing is and that's why I am back to using opk's (you may recall I sold all that sort of stuff on Ebay in the hope that I'd be more relaxed about ttc, and might even give up the idea. Alas, that tactic certainly didn't work.) Now I wish I had a fertility monitor again, but I just can't buy a fourth one, that would be silly, wouldn't it???HmmBlush

Right, I'd best go and get packed up. Have a lovely Friday everyone and a good weekend. I may check in on my phone while I am away Wink

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mazzie40 · 06/09/2013 19:38

Hi ladies. Do you mind if I join you?. I have been reading all the comments on here, & see your all lovely ladies. Me n hubby have been ttc for around 3 years. I have had 4 rounds of Clomid, but I've stopped it & this cycle haven't took it. It''s quite a relief in a way & I'm that way now where I'm thinking if I get my bfp then that would be amazing, but I'm feeling more relaxed about it. Even tho I still feel so down for a couple of days when af gets me. Sending lots of baby dust :). X

Morien · 07/09/2013 09:08

irish congratulations - wonderful news!

Hope you're doing ok, jbrd?

calibee, you settling in to your new life? Hope you'll be very happy in NI with your lovely DH.

gum hope you enjoy your knitting weekend, sounds great.

And to spread a bit of hope before I go - there's a lady on the pregnancy boards who's just pg (they weren't even ttc, I don't think) at almost 49 Smile

Have a lovely weekend everyone.

Morien · 07/09/2013 09:09

Welcome mazzie - this is a nice, supportive place to be, hope you feel at home here.

diege · 07/09/2013 14:50

Hi morien and hi and welcome to mazzie Smile
Gum I have to say your musing about fertility monitors and whether to buy another one made me smile. I am the same with breast pumps Grin. I think using opks is a sensible compromise as even though you are relaxed, there's no harm whatsoever in giving yourself the best chances. I do realise there is a fine line there though between 'best chance' and all out fertility maximisation Wink....
I am fine but really suffering with piles Blush. I have also decided that today is the day that ds2 finally gets to move in to ds1's bedroom. I can't believe we've left it so long tbh (ds 2 is 22 mths) but we now need to put up another cot for dc6....I know it will be hell, but if we leave it any longer I'll be back from the hospital with the new baby and poor ds2 turfed out of our room!
Love to all - rain and more rain here!

hopefulgum · 08/09/2013 09:09

Hi girls. Back from my knitting weekend, which was fab, but even after relaxing all weekend I feel tired. Different bed, didn't sleep all that well.But it was nice to have hours sitting by the fire, knitting with lovely friends while it rained outside. Also loads of yummy food and good conversation.

Af was a bit of a fizzer: not much blood (sorry if TMI). It worries me, menopause must be around the corner, but I'll still keep trying. I am hoping the Zita West sups might help.

Diege, sorry about the piles. That must be awful. I hope DS2 is settling into DS1's room. I can understand the desire to get that sorted before the baby arrives.

Well, feeling pretty knackered, so I think I might go and vege in front of the telly for a little while.

I'll be back in the morning with a lot more energy!

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Irishmammybread · 09/09/2013 13:42

Welcome Mazzie !

Glad you had a good weekend gum ,it's great to have such a supportive family to keep things going at home so you can have a bit of time to yourself and relax! Your kids sound wonderful. Does your DS feel confident about his driving test tomorrow? Good luck to him!

Diege, poor you, piles must be so uncomfortable, you must be counting the weeks down. How did the room move go for DS2?

Thanks for the good wishes Morien and notsoold !

I've been to the EPU for my scan today and saw a little heartbeat, baby measuring 7 weeks and everything looks normal. It's a big relief but I know it's still early days, I've had a similar with MC3,a good scan at 7 weeks, growth and strong heart beat on a later scan and it died at about 9 weeks. I'm being rescanned in 2 weeks . We're trying to be realistic, and are also waiting as long as possible to tell most people, but I can't help hoping and praying this little one will make it!

TigerseyeMum · 09/09/2013 16:35

Congratulations on your little one, Sparkly!

AF caught up with me too, so this is my last one before my lap n dye in 3 weeks time. Feel stupidly sad that a miracle didn't happen and I fell pregnant thus not needing the op!

My endo is really playing up and the surgeon is going to laser it as well as do the lap so hopefully periods will be less painful in future.

I'm glad it's not the first day of school for anyone this week, all those facebook pix last week nearly sent me over the edge!!!

mozzarellamummy · 09/09/2013 20:37

irish this is good news! I keep everything crossed for you little bean..
mazzie welcome!
gum I had my first day at school and am quite knackered, I had three classes one of which was a nightmare..7-8 naughty students didn't stop to speak, laugh and make noise.. I'm quite glad I didn't lose my temper, but I still have to find a way to deal with them ...Sad..SUGGESTIONS?
so if I ever got pregnant, there would be an added value of a maternity leave..Smile!
tiger af are obviously coming as we didn't DTd on the right days, but I was still hopeful in a super-everlasting swimmer..so I get what you felt with your af coming..wishing you a successful op!
diege I read on the chat about your colleague pg with triplets at 48 ..wow! I hope everything is going fine..it must be a little scary..

hopefulgum · 09/09/2013 23:14

Mozza, I am not surprised that you feel knackered after a first day teaching. It is a job that requires a great deal of mental and emotional energy.

As for those naughty kids - ask them to stop (obvious, I know) or you will move them away from their friends. Then give them other consequences for their behaviour. Here's a list of what I do: Give them a "bump" (tell them they are behaving badly and the next step will be to move), move them away from friends, giving detention during break or lunch time or after school,phoning their parents, sending them to another class to work (we have a roster so lower school students go to upper school classes and vice versa). I also reward the kids who do the right thing: praise, sitting next to their friends,"goldie" letters home. The important thing is to break up any groups of students who are making the most trouble. That can be hard with 7-8 naughty kids, but try and separate them, and move the worst ones out if you can. I hope that helps. Unfortunately, I have found, teaching is about 7 parts behaviour management and 3 parts teaching and learning.

Irish, I am so, so pleased for you (and also Envy, in the nicest possible way Smile ). Just remember the snug mantra, "for today I am pregnant".

Tigerseye, I have heard that a lap and dye can be the little miracle boost for getting pregnant, I hope it helps you, and I am sure having less pain with your AF will be good.

I have to go and have a look in chat about the lady pregnant with triplets at 48. Wow Shock. Are they ivf babies? I will go and look...

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TigerseyeMum · 10/09/2013 00:25

Triplets at 48???? I'm not sure I'd have the energy!!!

JBrd · 10/09/2013 09:44

Lovely news, Irish keeping everything crossed for you!

Irishmammybread · 10/09/2013 13:47

Thanks for the good wishes and support mozza, gum and JBrd ,it means a lot, especially when hardly anyone knows in real life. I've told my mum and boss but that's about everyone, apart from staff at the EPU. The lovely midwife who dealt with me a lot last year was the one who answered the phone when I rang up,I didn't even give my name,just said I was phoning to see if I could book an early scan and she immediately said "Is that you Irish ?" .It makes you feel they really care about their patients if they remember them(though I suppose I have been there a lot!).
I haven't even been to the GP yet but have now booked an appointment for later this week.I found it distressing last times getting routine appointments through the post for midwife appointments etc after miscarrying so thought I'd wait till at least after the scan but I'd better not leave it too long either.
Mozza that sounds like a tough first day,how old are your pupils? I'm not a teacher but gum's advice sounds good. I know my DD2(14) found the girls she sat with in one class last year were disruptive and stopping her from working but she couldn't ask to move herself because she'd lose face and look like a swot! She was being labelled as part of that group by the teacher. She would have been happy if the teacher moved them so it wasn't down to her IYSWIM. Maybe the group will be less naughty split up,some of them might actually want to work?
Sorry about AF Tiger but the lap and dye procedure may help,I have heard too that it enhances the chance of conception directly after one.