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Eggcellent Egg Buddies; are you cycling in July/August/September??? Get in here!!!

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tametortie · 02/07/2013 06:50

We swear! We have to start a new thread every week! But we are the most gorgeous bunch of ladies ever Grin and will do anything to get a baybee in our tumtum.

Get nattering.....

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NoMaybeAboutIt · 09/07/2013 13:12

Well said Brooker. Pleased the scan went so well! When are they looking at EC?

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tametortie · 09/07/2013 13:20

Whats going on here?? Sad there will be no-one left soon...... Sad

I think the 2 day v 3 day v 5 day transfer argument is extremely personal and depends on too many things for any of us to make any sweeping statements about. It really depends on ovarian reserve, protocol, sharing, natural etc.

My embryologist put it very simply and I trusted her implicitly- if they can see who is going to win the race on day 3 (which with less eggs, is easier) then they will put back on day 3. If there is no clear winner, they will go to day 5. However, with less eggs/embryos day 3 is an obvious choice. I do believe they are better back in than out in the lab- many won't but I dont agree that artificial culture is better than natural culture (unless you have hydrosalpinx).

I think we need to turn the emotional temperature down though, its a personal highly emotive subjest, especially when you have just had a failed cycle, and I think we need to all be mindful of eachothers feelings.

Equally, I dont want anyone to leave.....this is a thread for support- not debate x

Hope everyone is ok regardless xxxx

Scan showed 'debris' so I am still not resolved. Oh well......

Love to all xxxxx

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FlowersBlown · 09/07/2013 13:24

I don't post much but I'm weighing in here.

Ivf is not quite a numbers game. The odds are stacked well against some players and massively in favour of others. Very often no one knows why some people do not get pregnant. Is it bad luck or something else? The reason why juicy struck a nerve is because she is getting dangerously close to apportioning blame. Maybe you didn't get pregnant because you didn't research properly and push your clinic hard enough.

I took the view right from the beginning that I would follow the advice of the clinic I'm with and trust that they are acting in my best interests. I couldn't see what motive they would have for doing otherwise.

NoMaybeAboutIt · 09/07/2013 14:02

Oh Tame that sucks arse what's the plan from here on?

I hate people being upset. This whole thing is hard enough Sad

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tametortie · 09/07/2013 14:10

Consultant says a wait and see approach is best. hopefully AF will come and wash it all out!! Grin we will see...

I hate arguments too Sad

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resipsa · 09/07/2013 14:30

Tame debris is their best word choice? Hope AF does indeed flush it out. I had the same last year and got flushed in the end! Hope you're feeling OK.

I'm not really up for entering the discussion. I started my 1st (BFN) cycle on 18 April and since then have experienced intensely just about every emotion it is possible to feel, some good, most not. Everyone needs an outlet like this thread as the sad truth is that however good your RL relationships, others just do not understand the intensity and consequent need to talk about it daily (or more!). Also, I had Day 2 transfer of all 3 embies and never felt it was a waste of time (well, no more so than the last 19 months' worth of supposedly well-timed sex).

resipsa · 09/07/2013 14:37

No more flouncing allowed. It's not AIBU after all.

Motor, yes, I wish that I were you but totally understand the nerves which mean you need ongoing support so don't stop saying how you feel on our account! It makes me sigh when I think about my pregnancy that resulted in DD. I was so naively unconcerned by every aspect that, at 40, I didn't even get tested for Downs etc. I just assumed it would all be OK. It was but if I am lucky enough ever to be P again, I will not be assuming the same.

resipsa · 09/07/2013 14:39

Winkle if you're reading, good luck for trigger later. Don't stress (like the rest of us) that it'll go wrong. You're a needle expert by now.

nobeer · 09/07/2013 14:40

This is my first cycle of IVF so to be honest I had no idea what to expect, didn't know what blastos were, had to learn a whole new load of vocabulary both in English and Spanish. Plus I was also worried about my own health issues and any potential side effects of IVF drugs.

However, when the issue of blastos came up last week just after I'd had my EC I did talk to my DP about it and we just figured that the clinic know what they're doing. They're the experts in this, and we have to trust their judgement and experience. The fact that a friend of ours used to work there and said that the laboratory there was excellent helped make our decision

This thread has given me great support and it's been great to follow other people who've been through this before and share their experience, as well as having a moan or a rant when necessary. I won't be leaving the thread as I've grown quite fond of you all, "my new internet friends" as DP calls you. I want to follow everyone's highs and lows, and hope that I can be of some mutual support. I wish everyone here all the luck in the world, this IVF world is a strange place to be.

BrookerC · 09/07/2013 14:41

Well-timed sex! Hmmm sounds more exciting that it is eh resipsa?
tame you have dealt with so much & in such an inspiring way (I mean that sincerely). Sorry you've got more shit to cope with. x

resipsa · 09/07/2013 14:42

PS Expat I'm like you in that I need this thread. DH and I have had a rough 3 months since IVF started and I told no-one else to avoid any questions if/when it failed so no RL buddies for me to burden.

NoMaybeAboutIt · 09/07/2013 14:44

Keeping my fingers crossed that AF comes very soon Tame. Then it's onwards and upwards Smile

Resipsa there are no 'ifs' about it Smile

Good luck Winkle!

resipsa · 09/07/2013 14:46

You're right, of course, I meant when...Wink

resipsa · 09/07/2013 14:49

Brooker it's sad for poor DH but the best bit of IVF for me was not having to have sex at all (well-timed or otherwise). A whole 3 weeks off was bliss!!!

NoMaybeAboutIt · 09/07/2013 14:49

Nobeer I whole heatedly agree with you this is my first cycle too, and I am grateful for everyone here.

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tametortie · 09/07/2013 15:36

respisa yes, the scan report actually says debris Hmm nice!!

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ExpatWifey · 09/07/2013 16:09

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nobeer · 09/07/2013 16:24

Tame - debris? Surely there's a nice way of expressing that! Fingers crossed AF comes soon and it's not too uncomfortable or unpleasant.

BrookerC · 09/07/2013 17:46

nomaybe don't know yet re: EC. Think it will be next week-I'm a slow developer Confused. How you feeling today? I like the analogy of the little embies being like raspberry pips in a sandwich-they're going nowhere (no matter how hard you push!!!)
resp know what you mean. Nothing takes the fun out of a bit of how's your father more than 'having' to do it Sad
twinks good luck with the trigger! x

NoMaybeAboutIt · 09/07/2013 18:02

Ooh, I like that Brooker Grin! I'm ok, I felt amazing this morning, full of energy. Then 3pm hit and now I am shattered! I think that's the progesterone though!

Slow and steady wins the egg and spoon race Wink

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tametortie · 09/07/2013 18:07

Lets lighten it up a bit....

What is everyone having for tea?

We have risotto (or shitotto as joos calls it....) and then a friend is bringing gluten free biccies over.

Smile
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tametortie · 09/07/2013 18:11

Oh and I spoke to nurture about the scan and they will follow me up if no sign of AF. I know it all sounds like a shit load of more shit, but honestly, this is loads better than my last miscarriage.

Everything is going in the right direction Smile

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MotorcycleMama · 09/07/2013 18:11

Good news about your scan brooker - another hurdle successfully cleared! And sounds like you have productive follicles too!

Oh for goodness sake tame - when will it end for you?? Very soon I hope. Products/debris - both shit words. X

Thanks expat and resipsa.

How are you doing maybe?

I bought a clear blue digital which told me exactly what I already knew, which is that I am pregnant, and 2 - 3 weeks post conception. I aim to test again in a week (not before if I can help it!) just to check that the hcg is going in the right direction.

Group hug!!!!!

wishwash · 09/07/2013 18:23

Ah poo. Not a good read today then, lots of negative feelings Sad

I'm happy that your happy with where you're at tame.

Well done on the scan Brooker. Keep cooking those loverrrlies!

More shite with the bestie for me over the last two days. I've realised she's been telling little porkies about DP which could have, had I not realised that she's a jealous cow, driven a wedge between me and DP! I don't understand why she would do it, especially now but now I think back I can see all the other times she's done it. She's also been a pain in the arse at work so she's not exactly in my good books at the moment!

Still.... She's not ruining my positive mood. If she wants to be poisonous she can bugger off and do it somewhere else Smile