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We swear! We have to start a new thread every week! But we are the most gorgeous bunch of ladies ever and will do anything to get a baybee in our tumtum.

Get nattering.....

Twinks! You back from your cruise round them there Bahamas then? We miss you x

Hello twink xxx

Mejust so sorry. The gloom is indescribable, I know and you wonder if you can put yourself through it again but also if you can go on without trying again. Hope you see some light soon.

Hi winkle. Hope you are doing OK.

Maybe I have high hopes for you! Welcome to your 2WW!

"Look for the necessities, those simple necessities, forget about your and your ..."

BTW, wish and joos wise words indeed. I really try to focus on the "have" over the "have nots" (but I don't seem to be very good at it unlike you ).

Bahamas? Ha! I wish! Been quietly getting on with things. Feel calm and despair all at the same time. Think I'm triggering tomorrow night. Desperate for a fag.

Triggering? Bloody hell! EC on Thurs then. Massive hand hold and understood if you don't want to share for now...

Thx res. Been going in every other day to have scans and blood tests. Feel like a blimim pin cushion.

Much better, thanks tame! Whoever recommended the bicarb of soda and warm water THANK YOU!!! I think you just about saved my life not that I'm prone to exaggerate
Good luck with your scan tomorrow, tame.

And good luck to you too choco and twinkle. So much going on, and I felt like it moves so quickly once the process starts.

Welcome shellster

wish I love your attitude too. I could have done with some of that yesterday when I inexplicably threw a strop like my 2 year old niece because I couldn't find any clothes which fit me and I liked and it was too hot. In my defence, I was feeling v bloated and uncomfortable, and it was over 40 degrees where I live. But all the same, I do think DP thought he was living with a childish nutter. We'll be doing FET soon too, maybe Sept too, depending on hormones/ovaries.

Hello to juicy. Hope you're still feeling reassuringly nauseous!
And hello to everyone else, sorry haven't name checked everyone.

Hello to all. Day 1 in the fab downregging household and guess who can't sleep?? Buserilin injection was super smooth thanks to Mr Fab's revised injection style - very very slow. Still itched like a bastard afterwards if course but way better than last time :) now if only I could sleep.... Damn the bollixing dawn chorus...

Very difficult to name check everyone when on the phone as I can't scroll back and make sure what everyone has been up to so just want to say congrats to those who are pupo/preggers - amazing news for you all! and my absolute sympathies with those who aren't. What a horrible time for you but what amazing women you are to be so strong. As tame said, it's a bittersweet thread at the moment.

Morning all!
Just a quick one as on my phone & waiting for scan- eek.
So sorry euro . I know words don't help at the mo but thinking of you.
mejust so sorry love- hope you find some peace & are being kind to yourself.
Lots of lovely news too & will catch up/name check laters.
Good luck today tame

Good morning everyone!

How are we all today?
That's great news about triggering Twinks! How are you feeling?

Hurrah for the new jabbing technique Fab. Hope you managed to get some sleep in the end.

Good luck with the scan Brooker

Has it sunk in yet Motor?

Thanks Res! How are you?

Lovely tune Juicy

Did anyone else feel like they may have list their embryo whilst relieving themselves . I feel quite detached from it all. Quite a strange feeling.

Morning, god this thread moves quick!

I'm so sorry to hear Mejust and Euros news. I know there is nothing I can say but I'm thinking of you both x

Motor congrats again! I genuinely think my job has had a negative impact on conception. I've managed to change jobs a few times over the past few years. I no longer work nights and I have a new job where I work half in hospital half in community. But my job is still stressful and tiring. Did you say you have a research post? How long is that for?

Maybe you are PUPO!

Tame good luck for your scan today

Fab yay you have started and well done MrF on the new injection technique.

Sorry I've forgotten what else has happened while I've been writing this

maybe I refer you back to juicy's monumental poo in the Czech Republic as a very amusing example of fear of losing embryos down the loo!

I'm afraid I am struggling. This must look monumentally self-indulgent to those who have not had good news like I have, but I am in a state of constant fear that I am no longer pregnant. I imagine that anyone here who has experienced a missed miscarriage can relate to it though. I am thinking of buying some of those clear blue digital tests just so that I can keep an eye on my hcg levels until my first scan in 3 weeks. Am I being silly?

Good luck with the scan Brooker

That's great news on your scan Choco

Hi Shell Twinks Res and Joos

Motor, I will share this advice from a friend of mine on FF. She was responding to another friend who is pregnant (eight days ahead of me) with decent hCG levels but finds herself totally symptom-less and terrified she has already lost her pregnancy:

'It's going to be all good. You have a nice shiny new egg from a very young person. Young people rarely miscarry. I have been reliably told that it's actually very difficult to lose a baby if the egg is a good strong one. You have a good strong one who will be safely born in less than 8 months now. Think nice positive thoughts.'

I'm clinging on to this, Motor, and so should you. I had a mmc last year but I resolutely refuse to compare this embryo to that 40 year-old one. Don't torture yourself with the (wholly unreliable) digis. Start as you mean to go on and have a little faith and a lot of resolve x

Thinking of you today, Torts x

Twinks, your silent stoicism is very admirable. You're almost there x

Everyone about to lay eggs: if you get a decent crop, please tell your embryologist you want to go to five days. The BFPs on here so far have all been blastos. I know you think I'm obsessed but I want you to get your babies and it is clear that the only way of knowing whether they're putting back viable embryos is to take them all the way to day five.

motor I've popped back to give you a virtual hug. Your feelings are completely understandable but this is a different pregnancy and the ending will not be the same.

joos not everyone on this thread will be able to go to blasto for various reasons. Making it sound like they are bound to fail before they even reach ET is unhelpful and was my main reason for walking away from this thread a few days ago. This process is hard enough as it is. Many healthy pregnancies develop from early embryos. The success rates are lower, but transferring an early embryo is not the futile exercise you make it sound like. I really am leaving now as I am currently finding this thread more harmful than helpful.

Good luck to all.

I've just lost a massive post with lots personals and I am pissed off. It took me ages to write and I do not have the time to write again just now.

Someone above mentioned that the thread is bittersweet, and I'm inclined to agree (in a nice way). Lots of information and experience, lots of good and bad news. I've just seen euro's post and feel compelled to reply.

A consultant once told me that really and truly IVf is an art mixed with luck rather than a science, and I agree. People get pregnant all the time with lower quality embryos and fail to do so with blasts and as this thread has about 10 active people at any one time any results from it will not be reflective of IVF/assisted conception. Success rates.

I do believe that there are enough hurdles to climb and enough pressure placed without this thread adding pressure regarding what we can ask for.

Having said that - I couldn't have got through this first cycle without you all, but had to step away a bit during this 2ww as I've tried to use the out of mind approach!

I'll post properly tmorrow, but to all those struggling with bad news, feeling rough and feeling gloomy or in limbo.

And non-alcholoic to those currently PUPO or celebrating a BFP.

Special to motor its understandable, hang on in there!

Now, I shall post before I lose this ne too!

Euro iv been lurking and saw your post.
I to couldn't get to blast because I donating half my eggs which I ended up with less than 5 so couldn't take the risk of losing all my eggs trying to get to blast.
I agree ivf is luck of the draw the clinic told me they just don't know what will stick .
But I'd rather have my embryos put back in early than risk having none.
Take care I'm also taking a break.

I'm sorry some of you think I am dismissing early transfers but I will not apologise for stating what is largely fact. I understand that some ladies will not be able to go to day five with their embryos for reasons like mejust's. I wasn't talking about them. I was talking about ladies with plenty of embryos who have nothing to lose. The reason only 1-in-4 cycles result in a BFP is because non-viable embryos are transferred a lot of the time. This is because - for whatever reason - embryologists are reluctant to take them to day five.

Of course blastos are not guaranteed to result in a pregnancy and we have seen evidence of this, but it's really only a 'numbers game' as some like to profess, if viable embryos are being transferred in the first place. I'm sorry I have forced people to leave. I wanted BFPs so badly for everyone on here and it's kind of galling to know that my advice/encouragement has caused upset.

I will also leave the thread. Massive luck to everyone and I am sorry if my posts have been dispiriting. They were supposed to be quite the opposite

Well I don't want anyone to leave . You have all made me feel so welcome with your wise words. There will always be a difference of opinions over IVF. This has become more and more obvious to me when comparing how widely the advice given by different clinics differs.

Juicy I know you are only wanting the best for everyone and meant no harm with your words. Please don't go. I need you or my sanity.

Euro and Mejust, I understand you need to take time away to regroup after your cycles. But please come back soon x

Going to stick my schneck in for what it's worth. We are all very different & unfortunately the research in IVF is not tailored to our individual needs and specific fertility issues. All you can do is talk your clinic about any concerns and trust that they know what they're doing. Most of what we try with meds/supps etc. is unproven (or using very small sample studies) & probably not on 40 year old women with one ovary, in my case. For me,stress is the major factor to avoid (other than booze & caffeine). Everything else I do is to make me FEEL better - like I have some control over the whole process (which of course I don't).
I really hope everyone can stay as this thread is an amazing support. I do completely understand the need for a break though -for me I got sick of the bloody constant reminders & needed to fill my head with ANYTHING else.
Love to you all. X

BTW scan went well. Nice lining - which I'm pleased about after the god awful 'scratch'. Largest follie 15mm with approx. another 6/7 bit further behind. Back in Thurs.
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