The BESH plumbing is blocked up. Where's a man with a big tool when you need one?

[FrankellyMyDearIDontGiveADamn]

Welcome to the BESH plumbing thread, where we have blocked pipes, dirty u-bends and leaks aplenty.

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Hmmm, this job is gonna cost a bit

bugs didn't you say on t'other place you had a bad head too? I has similar a couple of years ago and I ended being admitted! Keep up the painkillers and plenty of fluids but don't hesitate to get medical help if you get worse.

Nice chart Frank

Hair strokes Hesty.

frank I prefer to keep things as normal as possible, so I have been at work throughout. EC was on a Sunday this time, so I didn't need time off for that. I worked from home on ET day, because between the ET itself and the acu appointment later in the day I would have lost the whole day if I had been travelling to the office too. It's a desk job so not exactly stressful, and I have my own office, so I can menkul in peace. :)

When diffed I was very parpy and got progressively bloated as the day went on. It's a thing, apparently. Just sayin'.

bugs the stories do sort of help, thanks. I spent most of yesterday finding tales online of successes with low grade embryos and they are out there, which makes sense. The clinic said 20%, not 0%, so there will be success stories. It's just the chances are lower. I'm going to try to stop googling now. Nothing is going to tell me whether or not I am in the lucky 20% apart from a pish stick in about 10 days' time.

Can you get to see an osteopath or something about the nexk? That sounds awful!

hest sorry you think you are out.

It's not over until the fat droid sings, Hest. Fingers still crossed for you and Frank and euro.

Rasp, work have sent you home. This is a free pass! Don't go back!

euro - you don't know me but I thought I'd barge in with my "sort of helpful" story. I had my second round of IVF, desperately trying for my first baby at the egg-wizened age of 38. We ended up with just two "crap" embies. I was gutted; my first round had given us far more and better embryos - and that hadn't worked. So in my mind how could this one work? The clinic didn't give us any %ages to go on, but they were very insistent on putting two back, and pulled a funny face like this >> when we asked about our chances.

To my absolute shock, it did work, and we had twins. I still feel guilty at the fact I wrote them off because, well, you can imagine why PFBitis. As my other half said at the time, "those little fellas are doing the best they can - you've got to believe in them until proved otherwise". And that's true - they will be trying their hardest inside you to be the best they can. And for the record, there's quite a lot of evidence that the grading by embryologists is a load of old bollocks. IIRC no-one quite understands WHY embryos-that-look-pretty tend to do better and it's certainly not a done deal that current theories on the subject are to be believed. Best of luck to you. X

Thanks Heart. I appreciate you posting. Your situation really does echo mine - we had a grade one embie put back first time and that ended in miscarriage, so I can't help thinking that these duffers won't be up to much! But someone has to be in the lucky 20%.

My negativity is partly genuine (last time because we were unexplained and I couldn't see why getting sperm and egg together in a lab was going to help when that should have been happening naturally and this time because of the embryo quality) and partly self-protection (I have less far to fall if it doesn't work out, and if it does, I get a pleasant surprise.)

Congrats on your twins. They are clearly determined little buggers!

Deflating boobs. Period pain. That's it.

It's not over yet Hest, will cross everything for you.

Euro like you say, 20% is not 0%, someone makes up those numbers.

I've just booked an appointment for a massage and accupuncture and a massage on Monday night. MATV is going to go mad. He hated stuff like that but these heads are killing me and pain killers don't help. I'm going to try and head back to work I think, still feel grim but the pain has just about gone so that's a start.

rasp I think you should stay home for the rest of the day. You are not so important that the world will stop turning if you are not there.

I agree with Euro and Bugs. Rasp - stay home!

Hest, I've everything crossed for you lovely.

rasp & bugs - hair strokes poorly ladies, hope heads and necks feel better soon. Resting is good for getting better. Not sure torturing yourself listening to that daft eejit Price is.

frank with that chart you must be in the throes of a SuperMenkul. Not long to go until tomorrow.

hest you're not out yet love. Save the getting wasted for one more day? Here, have some expensive hand dived scallops.

euro your stoicism continues to impress me.

Yeah. What Twink said.

I am feeling super efficient. I got a letter today saying I need to go for a smear, so I've managed to rearrange my nurse appointment on Tuesday to fit in both the smear and the next downregging implant. Might as well get it over with sooner rather than later, and all that.

Does anyone else feel amused when people fret about smears? It's just one more thing on the happy fanjo carousel o' treatments, innit, it barely registers what with all the dildocamming and IVF jiggerypokery. Like my friend said yesterday, at least if I get diffed I won't be bothered by having my bits fiddled with by all and sundry - been there plenty of times already...

Nice balls, Bugs. Stick them in a cistern with a cock or two and we'll have another plumbing joke.

Also, dammit, I can't believe I didn't think to suggest Wimbledon or Le Tour as a fred feem. Arrrrgh. Can we have that next time, assuming we fill this one up before said competitions are over?

Speaking of Le Tour, have you all noticed that Cav will be in a special jersey again? He's British Champion, hurrah! It was a properly emphatic victory, too - we watched the highlights at the weekend. Stage One of the Tour is flat, so there's a good chance of a bunch sprint finish and therefore we might see Cav in the maillot jaune too...

I can't believe its Le Tour again this week. Feels like it was only last week.

Even at best speed it takes us about 3 weeks to fill a fred so it'll take some doing, but then there's a lot happening at the moment so it could be done. How long do the TDF and Wimbledon last?

TdF is three weeks long, so it's doable! No idea about the tennis, though. I know what you mean, it's gone crazy fast. Shame Wiggins isn't up to it, but Cav and Froomedog will do us proud I'm sure.

Thanks Twink. Joking aside, I genuinely appreciate that.

The plumbing theme is ace, but I can't believe none of us thought of a timely Wimbledon fred. My clinic is in Wimbledon too! Although I wasn't exactly at my most level-headed when this thread was started as I was on my post-EC come down

draf I'm the same about smears now. In the past year I have had 3 smears, 3 colposcopies, two egg collections, two embryo transfers and numerous dildocams. It's like Picadilly Circus up there!

euro! And you're welcome.

draf I just Googled old Cav again. I am somewhat disturbed by his resemblance to Lee from Steps in some pictures. Apart from that though, he is a top bloke.

Cav does not look like any soppy twerp from Steps

I love your Cav love draf.

On a different note I am CD28 and want this cycle over already. It would suit me to have relatively short cycles, this time and next please.

On that note norf when did you last POAF?

I'm feeling at the moment absolutely sick with envy and rage. Wtf does counselling achieve? It doesn't make you fertile. Why do some people have all the luck and others have none at all? My whole life I have felt unattractive and unfeminine and unwomanly and being barren simply proves that I am. I'm going to have to face a life of no Christmas plays, never having anyone call me mum, no one to comfort me in old age, no one to read stories to at bedtime and it's NOT FUCKING FAIR.