Eggcellent Egg Buddies: are you IVF cycling in June/July/August 2013? Then get your druggy arses over here for some pure fucking menkulling...

[juicypair]

NokklingtonStStation, I couldn't find a new thread so I made this one, cock. Hope I did the right thing

baby dust makes my skin crawl welcome fab

I'm going to wag tomorrow as I can't face people right now

Apols for delayed response - phone decided to crap out on me so I gave up and attempted sleep instead.

Potted history: me 40 years - DH 34 :) met and married whirlwind-like in 2010 and TTC for 2 years, failed miserably. 1st round of ivf in jan success! Heartbeat at 7weeks, Missed miscarriage at 8weeks, erpc at 10 weeks. Starting again now - injections start on 8th July.

Am working in a pretty pressurised environment and hate my job but feel trapped there for the time being as the preference is very much to keep the money and mat leave as long as poss blah blah. Only good thing about the job is that they have been supportive over ivf and time off - now if I could just get them to be supportive over the work I do too...

I know it's a cliche to say when you want something you then notice that others have it but I know at least 5 other women who are expecting babies around the time that my little one was due and despite my protestations of - tsk that's fine - why would that bother me? Have been surprised by the slap in the face that it can be. Bodies are amazing at how these hormones can make you into a dribbling mess aren't they!

Oh dear I suspect that wasn't too potted a history - hope I haven't dribbled in for too long!

Welcome RSC. I'm with you in the French wine- look forward to swapping recommendations! That said, I managed one glass on Saturday and a couple of sips of cider yesterday - just don't feel like it at the moment which is very unlike me.

Fab and karbea. Nice of you to join us, and best of luck with it all.

Thanks expat, My UTI has cleared with antibiotics, and now I am just hoping that it won't interfere with treatment. Wow EC in a couple of days! Good luck with that.

Welcome back juicy! Sorry your feeling low - not surprising given the hormonal headfuck of IVF. Glad that EC and ET dates remain unchanged - when are they? Mine are 24th and then 27th - 29th. Not long now! Sounds like you've got a really supportive husband which is great. Mine is back on board and being lovely again, despite my regular meltdowns.

buzz you sound a bit more positive - I hope so! What a roller coaster.

Hi to choco euro twinkle mejust wish resipsa tame and anybody else I may have missed.

fab hello, we cross-posted. So sorry to hear about your mmc earlier this year. You'll see that many of us on here have had that same experience, myself included, so you have full sympathy and understanding. Glad you are giving it another go - you start injections around the time I will be having the official testing date to see if my DE IVF has worked. At the moment, it is very hard to see past that date at all!

Wow - good luck - will be thinking of you :)

Blimey, you are all so lovely, and a very special thanks to those of you who pm'd me your kind words I have decided to Not Give A Flying Fuck about pious lurkers and just get on with the job of being me (with a few concessions, including addressing my Chinese chippy man in a PC way. Maybe that was a little 'chink' in my armour )

LifeBeginsAtTortie, you lovely, funny lady: how the hell are you? Is it your scan or blood test today? I'm desperately hoping for surprising, great news for you. I agree you sound a teeny weeny bit more buoyant, Buzzy. I suspect that may because a symptom or two have returned? Good for you skiving work - should be The Law during post-IVF menkulling.

Resipsa, let me get this straight: Did you go through an IVF cycle in May alone?? I'm so sorry it didn't work out, what are you doing differently this time? Don't be a stranger x

[waves to *choco, NookNook, expat, euro, mejust, fish, twink]

Hello to Raspberry and welcome. May I ask why it took you so long to get to IVF? Are you afraid? Don't be, just see it as a real privilege and the ultimate chance to get your baby. Don't let stupid & misguided thoughts about it being 'unnatural' put you off. Sorry if this sounds patronising but I really feel for those who, like Twink, are struggling with the whole concept of AC. I think it's fucking brilliant!!

Welcome, too, Fabuluce. Sorry you miscarried, they are evil, those silent ones. I felt like a thief had burgled my womb at eleven weeks and stolen my baby What are you doing differently this time around?

Feel tons better this morning and, you know what? 'Tis not the drugs' fault that I had a wobble; the drugs are having no impact whatsoever (I have not needed to downreg and so far have only had to 'suffer' HRT, pessaries and now oestrogens). I'm just fighting the demons in my head, the ones that are telling me that this isn't going to work. How the fuck do they know that? They don't...so I shall ignore the twats

Motor, darling, what are your EC/ET dates? Someone upthread asked me for mine: EC is 12th June and ET is 17th. I will follow Buzzy's example and test six days later (6dp5dt).

[waves to Gnokkie] See what I did there?

I have a post for you here from the ReproGenesis forum I am on (that's my clinic in Czech Republic for the newbies. I am flying out there on Sunday for donor egg IVF. I'm gonna bring me home some babies ). It made me so sad for the poor lady and terrified this could happen to us:

"Hello Ladies - I'm new to the buddy forum, but feel like I know you a bit as I've been reading the thread whilst cycling at Reprogenesis.

I wanted to ask for your thoughts. We are due to complete our ET tomorrow morning, but over the last 4 days the reports have not been encouraging. We have a proven 25 year old donor who produced 7 eggs, 6 fertilised. Today we only have 3 left. 1 is good and at morula, the other 2 have not really progressed and remain at 9 & 12 cells. I am not sure how these will be blasts by tomorrow. I'm very disappointed as this is less than I've managed with my old eggs.

Does anyone know how the guarantee at RG works? I'm guessing the chances of getting frosties is more of a marketing trick than something they expect to achieve. Are the normal figures? I am beginning to wonder if we should have gone double donor (didn't know this was an option until reading this thread). Veronika [one of the coordinators at the clinic] has gone very quiet since I asked this question."

Sorry, my last post was not solely for Nokkie, it's for all of you, obvs!

juicy not long for you then a couple of weeks till ET, i wish you wouldnt get down thinking it will never happen for you this time next month you may be pregnant.

I dont know why but even though iv started it all seems so far away at the moment and im still scared about next lot of drugs and and EC ,im not good with medical stuff.hubby now seems to think its normal to jab me everyday and hes shit scared of needles himself.
I suppose its normal to have ups and downs.

hello to everyone

juicy glad you are feeling better today, wow not long now till you go :)

I think some people put too much belief into what the clinics 'promise' this is why I did go for the so called 'proven' I think some people forget that the egg donor might be 'proven' but the husbands sperm isn't, I don't know how any clinic can 'promise' frosties. You can have both egg and sperm donors but again I think your chances improve but there is no guarantee. I suppose its how the male feels about it all as well

Ha I cracked and tested early on the Friday, I was going to try and hang on until the Sunday, that is the earliest I have tested

tortie thinking of you today

fab so sorry to hear about your mmc

today I feel calm, maybe because I am not at work but also because the digi has gone up 3+ again and I feel a bit sick, this feels like eternity, my clothes don't fit and i'm only 6 weeks I just hope this calmness last a bit

Morning all,

Back from my hyst and cyst, feeling a bit groggy and odd iykwim. Just need to wait for my call now to hear what drugs I need to take tonight.

Buzzy good to hear you are feeling better today. Have you been for scans yet?

Me just it seems to start slowly and then it goes really quickly I found. My DH found it very hard, he hated giving me any injections. Now I do them all myself except the bum ones which I can't do, hopefully I won't need them this time, but guess I will !!

Juicy I think that's very odd of the clinic to guarantee anything, and very misleading. At the end of the day, everything can be fine, but at the end of the day a certain amount of it, is down to luck :/
Doesn't your clinic tell you when to test?

Hello everyone else!

Just got this from the worried lady. I hope you all don't mind my posting this stuff occasionally; I think it's useful for anyone doing DE, no?

"Just back from RG. As if some miracle happened overnight.... Ended up with 1 x hatching blast and 1 x expanded blast. The 3rd embryo perished overnight so nothing to freeze. Nonetheless I am very happy to have the 2 blasts. Both were classified as AA, which was more than we could have hoped for, given yesterday's news. They also gave us a DVD of the monitored embryos, a pebble with a painted flower for good luck and a summary of all of the embryos' progress.

The ET was an interesting event and performed to a CD of Barry White. Not sure if the Czech's understood the connotations of Barry White and the art of loving, but nice touch and amused DH no end

Transfer room was spotless and even has a sticky dust mat as you walk through the door, which we've never had in the UK. Transfer was also a little different to the UK. Far more visual and intrusive than half bladder and ultrasound. Apart from a little discomfort I actually thought the embryos would be better located using this method than the half bladder method. At the end of the transfer I was left for 15 minutes on the bed with more Barry White and later received a sharp jab of pregnyl (HCG). I've never had this before in my previous IVFs, so all good. A little extra HCG to fool the body into pregnancy mode is fine by me. Whatever it takes to make them stick."

Karbea, one of the ladies on the ReproGenesis cycling forum emailed the clinic and asked what would happen if, in fact, two blastos were not remaining on day 5. Here was the answer:

"Let me ensure you that this situation has never happened. Our donors are young and healthy and they have always enough follicles after their stimulation to be retrieved and after the fertilization there is always a sufficient number of embryos from which we can choose the best quality ones. However, IF this improbable situation really happened, then we would solve it individually with you in the form of some compensation as we really guarantee these two embryos for transfer."

The clinic has been established three years now and this has never happened. I tend to believe them.

Buzzy, I am so happy you're feeling rough! The digi increasing again must be a massive thrill! Hurray!!

Will ask th'usband about Crewe tonight

Juicy glad it all worked out for the lady in the end :)

Fucking hell! Prague is flooded and we're flying there on Sunday! Rail transport is down and everything. Good. I hope we drown so we can fuck this nonsense off once and for all..

juicy with all these things happening its bound to bloody work for you, just think of the amazing story you are going to be able to tell your baby in years to come :)

it would have been interesting to see what they would have said had it not worked I'm gad she had something put back, they played music for us, not Barry White though , Barry had to wear over the shoe booties they show you it happening on the screen then they leave you alone for 15 minutes the you are free to go.

kareba rest up, my backside has its own postcode so jabbing myself is actually possible I had one scan last Friday that freaked me out, EPAU have called, they have been very good to me so far, i shall call them back soon to rearrange another scan for next Monday.

I have booked a scan with Shehata for the 19th as I will hopefully be about 8w2d and I need him to decide on what to do with the meds, I'm planning on this being my last trip to see him.

are you able to fly into Vienna or Bratislava instead

Juicy I'll keep everything crossed for you in Prague - I'm amazed they can guarantee such a thing but if it all works out then big whoop for you and fingers crossed for the 2ww...then the next wait etc etc!

I'm not sure what to do differently with this cycle - it all worked like clockwork last time, I went to every deadline, produced 17follicles, 12 fertilised, 3 implanted at day 3, 3 others that were potentials didn't make it to frosty stage. Foetus all doing well then bam, as you say, the thieves came in the night and had a rummage in my belly damn them!! Will concentrate on boosting my protein in take to attempt more follicle production - does anyone have any advice on that? There's only so much chicken and chickpeas a girl can eat!! My clinic provides 2 counselling sessi

Dammit phone!! My clinic provides 2 counselling sessions as part of the package so I think I might have to utilise them as the first time I was super positive but this time round not so much :(

Juicy!!! So good to have you back.

Hello everyone and welcome (back?) Kareba and welcome Fab

Fab I saw a nutrionist at Zita West and she recommended upping my protein loads. I have some information at home which I'll post later - it might be of interest. One thing she did recommend to use was 'Whey to go' its a powder that you make into a shake and has loads of protein and other stuff. I'm actually about to buy some. Has anyone else tried it? I have a feeling it could be rank....

Fab, with so many eggs fertilised why didn't your embryologist try to take some of them to day-5 blastos? I take it none were left for the freezer? You must have been gutted after a 17-egg haul Tell us about your DH's sperm...

Buzzy, I'm going to have to think of summat quick sharp. There was a reason we didn't go for Vienna in the first place and I can't think what it was. I'll wait for th'usband to get home from work and then cry. A lot.

I think the flooding is pretty wide spread over the region according to some of the FF ladies

What should I do, Buzzy? I don't know where to start. Should I email the clinic? Or should I wait a couple of days until a clean-up is underway? I would imagine the clinic is absolutely inundated with worried calls.