The Elderberry Pavlovas: sit on the sofa of hopefulness and make yourself a special omelette while prescribing the vomming cat to those that deserve it and observing the lunching of the tactless.

[barkingtreefrog]

It's time for some more grads!!

The smallprint - Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 3+months NO instadiffers, must have a special pot)

Make that 5 gillster! Only I'm waiting for a BFP, not AF, as it's my positivity cycle!!! I'll be 10dpo on the 17th, and that's what my LP stretched to last cycle. This cycle I've been taking the vitamin B6 non religiously every day bar the one day I was in hospital post nasty HSG so I'm hoping it will be even longer this cycle. Although I'll never know how long because of course AF won't be arriving for another 9 months.....

Oooh Gil I'm very of your Cornwall holiday. Adore it down there, we went camping last year but had to cut it short b/c of MC so hoping to go back under happier circumstances soon! DH is determined to move down there one day...

Hi thunder, good to see you've found the plot again and regrouped Are there any jelly snakes left? I'm detoxing but I believe e-sweets are calorie free...

Charming sorry AF has reared her ugly head. Like you say, the BFP is the grand prize but glad you have your job as a commiseration trophy.

Good luck to all the berries playing the waiting game, really hope you ALL get BFPs although even one would be nice, it's about bloody time someone got diffed again and it ain't gonna be me at the mo

Feeling good today. The sun's out, I've done my morning workout (that makes me sound very Mr Motivator, but if I say exercises it sounds like I'm doing 1950s calisthenics ), I've managed to eat clean all week, my dissertation is coming along and I don't have to even think about ttc until after next Tues when I finally have my scan. It's all good!

Bunny, 33, cycle 13, hoping to be referred to FC this month, AF due around 20th

Thunder, 34, cycle 13, mmc nov 2012, af due 17/18th

Kuma, 38, cycle 5, AF due 19th

Tallyra, 33, ttc since 2009, 3mmc with hg, waiting for yucky internal scan to check there's no scars in there before going for it once again.

Happylass, 35, cycle 11. AF due June 30th. Been referred on by GP, waiting for 1st appointment at hospital.

Blindkitty, 33, cycle 24,tried clomid, had blood tests, had Hsg, dh had sa, waiting for iui to start aug/sept

Gillster, 39, cycle 15, AF due 19th/20th June. HSG has revealed an endometrial polyp. Have appointment with 2nd consultant on 2 July.

Boom, 31, month 13, hycosy next Tue and FINALLY consultant appt at gynae clinic on 1 July. Praying for clomid/metformin.

Ooooh, is it your birthday barking? Happy birthday! You'll have to get your BFP then, it's the law that nice things happen in birthday cycles

Have some birthday to brighten up your yellow brick road!

Yay a list!!! I really had lost track of my lovely berries and now we know where we all are, and it seems most of us will either be very happy or very depressed next week statistically we must be due a couple of BFPs! Surely!!!

Very jealous of your holiday gil anybody else up to much this weekend? After working last weekend I'd should be taking it easy this weekend but we have friends round tonight for tea and the Hobbit, then we might go to a local food festival Saturday and then I'm cooking Fathers Day dinner for my folks, sister and her chap! Here's hoping that this time next year DH (and all your DHs/DPs) is a father or at least father to be!!!

Huh, thanks Boom for taking me off the list But I'll take the birthday ta!!
I've been positive thinking all through this cycle so if I don't get my birthday BFP this month I officially give up and leave it to science/drugs. Nature has had 19 months!!

Birthday is going to be started by going back to bed... Don't work Fridays fortunately. DP's granny had another stroke yesterday so it was 5 hours of driving and a hospital visit last night, got back at midnight. I don't think she's going to pull through this time. The sympathetic smile and tilt of the head from the nurse when we said who we'd come to see spoke volumes, especially as we arrived after visiting hours were over and it wasn't mentioned. DP didn't want to miss work today as he'd only gone back after his op yesterday so we stayed an hour then got back in the car.

Bunny, 33, cycle 13, hoping to be referred to FC this month, AF due around 20th

Thunder, 34, cycle 13, mmc nov 2012, af due 17/18th

Kuma, 38, cycle 5, AF due 19th

Tallyra, 33, ttc since 2009, 3mmc with hg, waiting for yucky internal scan to check there's no scars in there before going for it once again.

Happylass, 35, cycle 11. AF due June 30th. Been referred on by GP, waiting for 1st appointment at hospital.

Blindkitty, 33, cycle 24,tried clomid, had blood tests, had Hsg, dh had sa, waiting for iui to start aug/sept

Gillster, 39, cycle 15, AF due 19th/20th June. HSG has revealed an endometrial polyp. Have appointment with 2nd consultant on 2 July.

Barkingtreefrog, 34, cycle 19, BFP due 16/17th June. Had bad experience of HSG, next stop dildocam and fc appointment on 19th June.

Boom, 31, month 13, hycosy next Tue and FINALLY consultant appt at gynae clinic on 1 July. Praying for clomid/metformin.

Happy birthday lovely barking!
Really sorry about DPs granny. It's so sad. Thank goodness for a quiet Friday after a late night. Do you have nice birthday plans?

Hey kitty yeah I'm alright. How's that cat doing?

Good to see you mrboomivator (does that work?). Am v impressed with your clean living- are you feeling tip top? Here have a special snake made only from fruit. Helfy.

Cornwall sounds great gill

Sounds like a nice wekend bunny general loungin around today then we are swimming and lunch with my sister and her OH tomorrow, working sunday. Oh and planning next weeks decorating, need to find a plasterer to patch plaster our dinning room, not looking forward to task of sanding ceiling - it is dark wood and I want to paint it white, will not be fun.
signed up for 10k run next sat and am on day 7 of 30 day shred.
Happy Birthday barking tonight??

Bunny, 33, cycle 13, hoping to be referred to FC this month, AF due around 20th

Thunder, 34, cycle 13, mmc nov 2012, af due 17/18th

Kuma, 38, cycle 5, AF due 19th

Tallyra, 33, ttc since 2009, 3mmc with hg, waiting for yucky internal scan to check there's no scars in there before going for it once again.

Happylass, 35, cycle 11. AF due June 30th. Been referred on by GP, waiting for 1st appointment at hospital.

Blindkitty, 33, cycle 24,tried clomid, had blood tests, had Hsg, dh had sa, waiting for iui to start aug/sept

Gillster, 39, cycle 15, AF due 19th/20th June. HSG has revealed an endometrial polyp. Have appointment with 2nd consultant on 2 July.

Barkingtreefrog, 34, cycle 19, BFP due 16/17th June. Had bad experience of HSG, next stop dildocam and fc appointment on 19th June.

Boom, 31, month 13, hycosy next Tue and FINALLY consultant appt at gynae clinic on 1 July. Praying for clomid/metformin.

Foodylicious, 33, ttc since nov 2011, 1mc May 2013. ttc again in couple months/after hols in Oz.

Bunny, 33, cycle 13, hoping to be referred to FC this month, AF due around 20th

Thunder, 34, cycle 13, mmc nov 2012, af due 17/18th

Kuma, 38, cycle 5, AF due 19th

Tallyra, 33, ttc since 2009, 3mmc with hg, waiting for yucky internal scan to check there's no scars in there before going for it once again.

Happylass, 35, cycle 11. AF due June 30th. Been referred on by GP, waiting for 1st appointment at hospital.

Blindkitty, 33, cycle 24,tried clomid, had blood tests, had Hsg, dh had sa, waiting for iui to start aug/sept

Gillster, 39, cycle 15, AF due 19th/20th June. HSG has revealed an endometrial polyp. Have appointment with 2nd consultant on 2 July.

Barkingtreefrog, 34, cycle 19, BFP due 16/17th June. Had bad experience of HSG, next stop dildocam and fc appointment on 19th June.

Boom, 31, month 13, hycosy next Tue and FINALLY consultant appt at gynae clinic on 1 July. Praying for clomid/metformin.

Foodylicious, 33, ttc since nov 2011, 1mc May 2013. ttc again in couple months/after hols in Oz.

Oh barking Happy Birthday to you and really sorry about DH's grandma. I'm glad you were able to see her.

Gil ooo Cornwall! Lovely! Bunny food festival, how fun! We missed the one down our way a few weeks ago.

Hi Thunder! Did the break help? Hi Boodle, how's the new house? Everyone else feeling alright?

Messed up temp-taking this morning, which is ironic bc I had what I believe was EWCM yesterday, so DH raced home at lunchtime to see to things CBFM still shows High, temp which is prob wrong was high, and FFriend 'details' suggest that temp spikes might indicate anovulation (or just temping at diff times, which I definitely do). How many cycles did it take you lot to be put at ease by temping?

Nurse's idiotic is haunting me, which is dumb on my part. I've never had intimacy issues and it's stupid to let a stranger's awkward comment make me wonder if I'm not the sexpot I've always thought I was She couldn't have known we'd been TTC for nearly a year and that I already have enough worries over that issue w/o adding more. that being said, if I were more forthright, I'd have complained. From what I can tell, the English are much more comfortable asserting themselves (obv in an appropriate way) than I've ever been. I admire that and hopefully will learn how in time.

Bunny, 33, cycle 13, hoping to be referred to FC this month, AF due around 20th
Thunder, 34, cycle 13, mmc nov 2012, af due 17/18th
Kuma, 38, cycle 5, AF due 19th
Tallyra, 33, ttc since 2009, 3mmc with hg, waiting for yucky internal scan to check there's no scars in there before going for it once again.
Happylass, 35, cycle 11. AF due June 30th. Been referred on by GP, waiting for 1st appointment at hospital.
Blindkitty, 33, cycle 24,tried clomid, had blood tests, had Hsg, dh had sa, waiting for iui to start aug/sept
Gillster, 39, cycle 15, AF due 19th/20th June. HSG has revealed an endometrial polyp. Have appointment with 2nd consultant on 2 July.
Barkingtreefrog, 34, cycle 19, BFP due 16/17th June. Had bad experience of HSG, next stop dildocam and fc appointment on 19th June.
Boom, 31, month 13, hycosy next Tue and FINALLY consultant appt at gynae clinic on 1 July. Praying for clomid/metformin.
Foodylicious, 33, ttc since nov 2011, 1mc May 2013. ttc again in couple months/after hols in Oz.
SidneyBristow, 38, TTC since Jul 2012. BFP due 1 July. No known issues apart from impatience.

Hey sid good work on the lunchtime action! Hats off to you and your man for that.

I couldn't believe that nurse's comment either? SO out of order. I think you need to try and block it out now yeah yeah easier said than done eh

Where are you from?

Barking clearly I left you off the list on purpose because you're getting a birthday BFP so don't need to be on it! Sorry to hear about DP's grandma, very sad news.

Thunder ta . I'll take Mrboomivator, now where did I put my neon spandex?

Bunny that sounds like a lovely weekend! I'm going to an evening wedding do in the village I grew up in so all my childhood friends will be there, looking forward to it although the antisocial DH is grumbling already haha. He wants to take the dog...

thunder I'm dogsitting my mate's dog (little sprocker, gorgeous, but a little bit lively...) so they're currently fighting over a blanket while I try and get our trip to California properly organised, planned out and accommodation booked.... Went for a walk with the two dogs earlier, going for a run tomorrow morning followed by a nice breakfast, then round to a mate's for a bbq then it's a 40th birthday party of a friend of DP's in the evening. Going to see the family on Sunday. Should be a good weekend .

foody well, to or not to , that is the question... Given I'm definitely due my BFP this cycle, and I'm now 7 dpo, I really can't decide. Can you tell I'm starting to believe this might be possible myself after all this positive thinking? Tipping over into crazy lady territory

sid can you link to your chart so we can see how much of a spike you're talking about? My cycle has been fairly spiky for me this time but I can still see a clear enough coverline take a look I didn't temp when I was in hospital post HSG then visiting DP's Granny in hospital (CD8-10), and I skipped Tuesday as I woke up at 5am and never got back to sleep so it seemed pointless to temp at 7am!

barking that sounds like a lovely day

LOVE the positivity! And why not- it must be our turn berries?!

Maybe it should be mrsboomivator actually?

Has anyone read Watch Over Me by Daniela Sacerdoti? I randomly bought it and then was shocked by the first page being about a woman's pain at having trouble conceiving and then miscarrying. I am a little way in now and I have to say I'm absolutley hooked. Just wondered if anyone else has read it or had any thoughts.

Happy birthdaybarking sorry to hear about granny in law

Ooh foody you are off to Australia?!? How exciting!!!

Where you from then sid?

Def have some birthday wine barking after all you won't be able to drink much soon

Hello ladyberries have been a bit absent with work & hols & trains... Haven't managed to catch up with all the chat but have spotted that boom finally reached the end of her cycle - whoop- and foody is making everyone jealous by going on a far flung holiday - well deserved no doubt.

I've a question about cm- had a lot of it yesterday &it was v liquid and whitish. Then today a bit of ewcm and a smiley face on ov test & lots of lower abdo pain/ bloating / wind. Cd 16. After being told I hadn't ovulated by cd20 last month I don't want to get too hopeful this month but it does sound like ovulation doesn't it? Anyone agree?

Am Waiting for another cd21 blood test and FC referral but secretly hoping for bfp before we get there - hello fellow positivity crew

For the list: Aquarius, 32, ttc 14/15mths, no hint if bfp yet, suspected endo, previous depo user, hoping for dog if not baby

It seems like ovulation to me Aquarius. I supposes there's always a chance that your body is getting ready for ovulation but doesn't actually do it. Fairly unlikely though but the blood test is the proof I guess.

Bunny - 33, cycle 13, hoping to be referred to FC this month, AF due around 20th
Thunder - 34, cycle 13, mmc nov 2012, af due 17/18th
Kuma - 38, cycle 5, AF due 19th
Tallyra - 33, ttc since 2009, 3mmc with hg, waiting for yucky internal scan to check there's no scars in there before going for it once again.
Happylass - 35, cycle 11. AF due June 30th. Been referred on by GP, waiting for 1st appointment at hospital.
Blindkitty - 33, cycle 24,tried clomid, had blood tests, had Hsg, dh had sa, waiting for iui to start aug/sept
Gillster - 39, cycle 15, AF due 19th/20th June. HSG has revealed an endometrial polyp. Have appointment with 2nd consultant on 2 July.
Barkingtreefrog - 34, cycle 19, BFP due 16/17th June. Had bad experience of HSG, next stop dildocam and fc appointment on 19th June.
Boom - 31, month 13, hycosy next Tue and FINALLY consultant appt at gynae clinic on 1 July. Praying for clomid/metformin.
Foodylicious - 33, ttc since nov 2011, 1mc May 2013. ttc again in couple months/after hols in Oz.
Sidney - , 38, TTC since Jul 2012. BFP due 1 July. No known issues apart from impatience.
Aquarius - 32, ttc 14/15mths, no hint if bfp yet, suspected endo, previous depo user, hoping for dog if not baby

Is that everyone for now? merk pip where are you?!?

I've not read it thunder but I did read one called The Snow Child the other day, based on old European/Russian fairy tales about an old childless couple making a child out of snow. It also went into infertility/loss and childlessness although not in analytical depth. I liked it, it was kind of whimsical and otherworldly - set in Alaska I think. I'll have to buy the one you're talking about - sure I saw it in a bookshop the other day but passed over it, now I'll have to go back secret yays, I love books

Hi Aquarius yep brand new shiny cycle here, only on day 8 so still full of some of barking's yellow brick positivity! Hope all the signs are right and it was ovulation today for you

Right, to bed. This has been a long long day and tomorrow I've got a wedding to go to and I have nothing organised! Panic stations!

Going to curl up under the duvet and think positive thoughts until I fall asleep. Can we have a Futon of Fertility? xx

Morning all. DP woke me at 5.30 when he got up to watch the rugby cos he couldn't possibly use Sky+ and watch it later grrr and I haven't been able to get back to sleep so am catching up on recent happenings here. Spent all yesterday at DPs grandad's funeral. His cousin who has a 3 month old after IVF plus another cousins wife who's been TTC for 2-3 years were there so spent ages chatting to them about their experiences. Nice to know there are other people with issues but can't even escape thinking about TTC at a funeral!!
Sorry to hear about DPs grandma Barking
Very of all you Berries who are heading off on hols. Another 7 weeks before ours.
Cd12 here and no temp rise despite copious amounts of EWCM on CDs 9 and 10 . Wondering if its gonna be a repeat of last month where I get all the signs around cd11 but nothing happens temp wise until cd17
Planning on attempting a sweet tree later for my dad then got my best mate and her 6 and 3 yo DDs coming to visit so think I'm in for a hectic one! Have a lovely day all!

boom detox 'snake'??? Is that some kind of euphemism for oral sex??? You know you can't get prevgers like that don't you haha? Speaking of 'snake' drinks though, I did (unknowingly) drink snakes blood once in Thailand (why am I admitted this???).

barking sorry I missed your birthday yesterday? Did you have a fab time? What did dh get you? X

Aquarius, sounds like ovulation to me! It won't be very accurate but you could always try temping from now just to see if you see a rise? You might have already ov'd though so won't necessarily see it.

Sorry to feel sorry for myself but the lists always make me sad now as it always points out I'm the longest ttc, apart from those who have tragically had a mc

happy what's a sweet tree? X

thunder she's crying outside my bedroom door atm wanting to come in and give me cuddles more like cupboard love Looking after my friend's cat atm, he's a real sweetie but wouldn't come in yesterday morning so spent all day in the rain, silly pussy! How's yours? X

boom I would definitely recommend the book - I just couldn't put it down until it was finished and then when I was awake at 4am I went onto amazon and bought another one of hers. Very different topic this time but I really like how she writes.

blind erm... Snake blood?!.. Need more information! Hope you're now cuddling that cat? Did you see that Horizon documentary on the secret lives of cats? (Just wrote cars by mistake- definitely not so interesting!)

Hi happy, it sounds great that you found some other prople in RL to talk about fertility to. I dont think any of my friends really understand judging by some of their stupid comments

What's a sweet tree?

Oh and went to see man of steel last night - caught sight of a massive bump about to walk past me, immediately making me think ffs I can't even escape in the cinema...only to realise it was a man's beer belly haha

kitty! We'll be jealous of beer guts next!