The Elderberry Pavlovas: sit on the sofa of hopefulness and make yourself a special omelette while prescribing the vomming cat to those that deserve it and observing the lunching of the tactless.

[barkingtreefrog]

It's time for some more grads!!

The smallprint - Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 3+months NO instadiffers, must have a special pot)

Count me in Barking. Yellow bricks all the way for me, for the time being a least! AF holding off at the moment but sure she'll be along shortly. Whilst I'm very sad that this is taking so long and also that I've only got probably another 2 goes before we'll have to take a break from TTC, I am still 100% certain that this will happen for me and for all of us. It's just a case of being patient and waiting for our time to come. Hugs to everyone who's feeling blue this eve x
Kuma with regards to the BBT bleeping, I thought it was meant to bleep to show that its ready i.e. before you started to take your temp? If not I've been doing it completely wrong for the last 6 months!!

Well it seems barking has enough positivity to share with us all! thank goodness!!!!

Sorry I'm not posting much ladies. I feel like I've rather got off the TTC bus as I've stopped trying now.

So I've just skim read the past few posts. Cats It sucks doesn't it? It sucks giant donkey dicks.

Oh and hi Kuma, was it you asking about OPKs? I found that it needed to be the second wee of the day if you are using amazon cheapies. It took me a while to work out when I was OVing but after a couple of cycles I got to know my body so well I could usually catch it with just a couple of sticks.

Now we've stopped trying we've had more sex than ever, go figure!

pip am I right in saying you're having ivf?

Morning! Anyone feeling a bit brighter this morning?

pip I just sprayed coffee on my computer because of your giant donkey dicks!

Morning Berries!

boom feeling a little brighter here, managed to DTD this morning yay! So that's days 11 and 13! Not sure we'll get another one in with work stress this week and working 7 days I a row is not good for either of us

Good to see you pip do pop in and see us now and again

Sorry so many of you have had rubbish weekends, not been any better here.
Feeling pants, went back to work yesterday and everyone kept asking me if I was 'better'. Ended up telling a few about the mc and that they could tell others if anyone asked. Dont know how many time i can have the same conversation (there are 30 peeps in my team) and listen to 'it will happen for you soon' or 'at least you know you can get pg' . Everyone, and I mean everyone we have told has said one of these, some people both. next one really might get punched. And I end up leaving the conversation feeling guilty because I have given someone something upsetting to deal with.
Going to work on a late shift today and want to just sit here and cry.
Hope people have better weeks, feel I might be burried under the yellow brick road, will try to dig myself out one brick at a time, sorry if I make a mess, will put it back nicely.
bunny yay for this morning, put your naughty bunny head on this week and catch him be surprise ??
feel better for ranting

A few peeps on here I dont know (I was also Trying123, last time I was here) could we have a new list??

Foody, 34, ttc - Nov 2011, 1 mc.

foody it really sucks, the sympathy, doesn't it. I ended up telling the girls in the office I couldn't cope with talking about it and to go about their business as normal please.. it's the sad smile they expect whatever they day anything nice that annoys me, and the bloody eye contact. I don't want to see how sincerely they believe it, I want them to go away and shut up...

I've just had to tell the office I've got my appt next Tuesday and even by email I've had a sympathy and good luck response.

Of course, the easiest thing would be for it not to have happened, but that's not possible and you've got to try and smile them off.
Have you asked for counselling? it took me a month after my first to realise I needed help and I ended up crying down the phone to the epu - a very good way to get attention I'll have you know. They don't routinely send you for it but there has to be something available if you feel you need it.

for you and lots of hugs and no mention of empty platitudes.

Foody anything that helps you through this is fair game in my opinion, and if that means throwing punches, then have at it; anyone who would say something so insipid deserves a good smack! I am very sorry you're going through this and to me it sounds like you're handling this as well as can be expected, in that you're aware of your own emotional state and your own limitations. Please take it easy we are all here for you.

Bit of a rubbish time here too lately, sounds like we're all in a blue-ish (light blue?) mood. My little dog is having a surgery today so overall feeling pretty anxious. Today is CD3 of cycle 12, never in a million years did I think things would take this long, feel like my innocence and faith in my own body has taken a severe beating although I know I'm probably being too hard on myself. Really tired of wondering just what we're doing wrong/if my impatience is translating into fertility issues/why on earth I ever told my mother & MIL that tests had been done, as now I feel like they're starting to pity me since obv nothing's happening.

Anyway big hugs to all the berries; I'm going to take a nap under the Throw of Encouragement and hope I wake up refreshed and reenergized. If you could all spare a prayer for my dog's speedy recovery, that would be much appreciated Vet says it will go fine but I'm v nervous

for the list:

Foody, 34, ttc - Nov 2011, 1 mc
Sidney, 38, cycle 12 just begun, starting temping this month + DTD daily for the win! or something like that.

foody I'm amazed you haven't lunched anyone in the face. 'At least you know you can get pregnant' is the stupidest thing anyone could possibly say, I feel massively frustrated on your behalf. Yes, they probably don't know what to say, but engaging brain before opening mouth would be a good start!

I dealt with it by being over-blase and pretending I wasn't that upset. Now everyone probably thinks I'm a coldhearted ice queen but at least they stopped giving me sympathy. Don't think that's the psychologically balanced way of doing things though! Counselling sounds like a good idea if there's any available to you, I wasn't offered any and I really think it's affected how badly I dealt (and still deal) with it.

Sid hoping your woofer is on the mend by now!

Foody, 34, ttc - Nov 2011, 1 mc
Sidney, 38, cycle 12 just begun, starting temping this month + DTD daily for the win! or something like that.
Boom 31, ttc since May 2012, 1mc, stupid wonky cycles and stupid wonky uterus. Currently CD55, gynae appt 17 June. Waiting for the witch!

URRRGH. I broke and went back on FB the other day. Someone just posted this:

'Now I have to have another baby!' Click

Yup, the invention of cutesy donuts with different coloured fillings is a good reason to procreate. Spot the thoughtless instadiffer!

Grumble grumble.

oh how ridiculous.
I did a silly thing too. researching patterns to make a quick and simple quilt as a housewarming gift for my sis. I should have known they would all be called baby quilts and come with photos of said babies on top of them. gah!!!

But of course, no quilt could be for any other purpose than the posing of babies!

Phoned the clinic back this morning, still chasing a doctor to tell me what to do about this hycosy (been waiting for my call to be returned since last Tuesday). Was solemnly promised that someone would call me today without fail..have they called? Have they chuffery!

Oh foody it must be rotten telling people, sending hugs!

sid dtd every day?!? Is that good for sperm, I thought it needed a rest?!? Sending pooch get well vibes!

boom wtf?!? Why would anybody post that? And grrrr to the clinic!

Felt much happier this morning to get a on the OPKs. A week later than usual. I think ovaries were on temporary shutdown with DH's 3 week absence! Brucie bonus in Tesco's this evening - £8.75 for 20 CB OPKs. I bought 2 boxes! My sub-conscious is clearly not expecting a BFP any time soon which is just as well given I had to chase hospital again for polyp removal appointment. Hope all the other berries have been enjoying the sun and feel a little happier about the world.

Well I've had the worst day. Nothing ttc related (although I haven't had a + opk yet and it's creeping nearer to DPs op so I'm not happy about that!)

Let me talk you through my day:

1. Spend ages looking for bag which isn't actually in the house at all. Now late.
2. Lose cycling gloves.
3. Lock the door then discover bike has flat tyre and pump is inside.
4. Leave sunglasses on wall while pumping up tyre and squint all the way to uni.
5. Sit through pointless seminar on how to do next assignment by tutor who has not brought handouts.
6. Have tutorial where tutor then contradicts everything explained in seminar.
7. Still no handouts to explain what you are supposed to do.
8. Try to log on to uni computer to access 'blackboard' to find resources online they failed to supply and find 'account is deactivated'.
9. Call IT support who explain that you finished the course a year ago. Really? So what am I doing here then?

10. Spend half an hour on hold to faculty to ask what the hell is going on. They dont know and will call me back. 11. They don't call me back. 12. Finally access required document by contacting course administrator and having it emailed. 13. Discover it has been written for the cohort following ours and is totally irrelevant rubbish. Instead of a 3000 word reflection we have to write four or five critical incident reports (with four step analysis and reference to relevant policy and research for each one) to use as our data set, and then write a 3000 word reflection about them. So more like 15000 words then. 14. Come home and go for a run to let off steam. Have to stop due to pain in shin/ankle/knees. 15. Be hassled by someone trying to sell insurance on the phone. 16. Be hassled by someone at the door collecting for charity. 17. Sulk, eat half a Terry's chocolate orange and feel sick.

And don't even start me on the attitude of the lecturer when I tried to suggest there was a problem with the lack of handouts and completely contradictory information.... I ended up close to tears with frustration and had to walk away.

foody sending big hugs. Speaking as someone who generally puts her foot in it, they mean well, they just don't always know what to say so end up saying something dumb!

sid what's up with the woofer? Hope he gets better soon

Little bit scared of barking tonight... Hopefully a will sort everything (not to mention pick n mix)

aww hugs barking. Your rubbish day sounds truly rubbish!

Doggie's op didn't go quite as well as they had hoped, was much more complicated than expected so they took a small tissue sample for biopsy and closed him up. Will handle his symptoms with meds and keep fingers crossed that the growth isn't malignant. Still for my little guy and want him home asap, the house is too empty without him here!

re: DTD daily, Mayo clinic says it's not an issue for men with a healthy sperm count, and as tiring as it is, it does help us connect and remember our own relationship rather than having everything be about TTC. For me it also helps allay anxiety bc missing the 'right' day isn't possible. Not for everyone I'm sure and some days it's kind of a beating but overall I wish we'd gone this route months ago.

A blog I follow had a post today where the writer shared that after 14 mos of TTC, she & her DH found they were pg. They'd seen a fertility specialist who had no explanation & weren't sure where to go from there. Her post was the perfect way to share happy news while still being sensitive to those of us who are still trying. I wish more people were as thoughtful!

Don't be scared kitty I have an extra large tub of pick and mix, it's safe to come out now .

sid so sorry about your pooch, I was in tears last time I had to leave my dog at the vets even though I knew he'd be fine and be getting lots of cuddles from the vet nurses. House doesn't seem right without them in it does it? Hope he's back soon and recovering well.

Evening berries. Just a quick stop by to say hi. I'm out this month (before I've even Od) as I reckon I'm not going to O before Friday and have just left OH at the airport :( just as I had managed to convince myself this would be the month he has to go away with work at the critical time So I am living through you ladies for the next 4 weeks so FX for you all

barking that does sound truly rubbish! And as a fellow hater user of Blackboard, you have my sympathies with that flipping awful system! Here, have some cinnamon sweet potato fries, they're amazing.

gill glad you got your !

sid sorry your boy is causing you worry. Keeping my fingers crossed everything's ok with him - these pets of ours are certainly trying to keep our minds off ttc!

merk sorry you're out this month. Here, come and join me on the chaise longue of limbo where us wot haven't got no immediate hope of a BFP hang out!

And hello all the other berries!

Just checked out the colour of my back after walking muttster for three hours this morning. Fetching shade of puce with white strap marks. I'm so fit. Will have to sit inside tomorrow and actually do the dissertation that I keep putting off...

Thanks guys! been abit better today and a good day at work.
fx for your pooch sid
barking what a pants day! hope your studying gets better, they really can pants at organising anything on courses.
boom good luck with the dissertation too and well done on those strap marks, you should be proud.
merk sorry you are out, will be joining you on the 'out' front for a while too!

sid tbh we've tried the every day vs every other day and since neither seem to work we just do whatever we can be arsed to do! Do get more stressed with every other day in case we miss it.

barking phew, glad you're feeling better!

Tonight I'm mostly pi off with game of thrones killing off my favourite character!!! Not cool!!!