TTC after MC - nice people in crap times, full of posifrickingtivity

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Welcome aboard ladies (though obviously sorry you have to be here). We're a friendly bunch so come in and plump up a cushion for POAS Fridays and lots of posifrickingtivity. With a few (gentle) fish slaps thrown in for good measure.

fod I don't know :( i've never tested for ov so can't help you. But:

I have a friend who had mmc at 12 weeks. she got her first AF as normal at 4 weeks, but AF then went AWOL. I don't think she was ov testing (although she could have been and just didn't tell me), but eventually did get pg (and now has a baby) from an egg that must have dropped around day 80 of her cycle... she didn't see a doc or anything.

So..... funny things can happen but you can STILL get pg. That's what I take from this story.
Obviously I hope that happens to no-one here because it was pretty depressing for her at the time.
Perhaps a doctor would have done something to speed things up for her, dunno...

So I have a friend who has the same EDD that I had. She doesn't live nearby so we mostly email. I told her that I've just got my first AF and can now ttc with permission (although I already was).
She said "that's good news. Have fun with that ;)"
My instinctive response is to be very catty and make some sort of narky reply about how can i possibly have fun being back on the emotional monthly rollercoaster that is ttc (only worse than normal ttc due to mc stress), when I should be getting fat like her.

Gah! I need to restrain myself and not respond, but I feel like that was such an insensitive comment of her to make I guess she doesn't know what it's like. Lucky her.

eeeek fod i just re-read my post. I don't want to scare you or anyone else!
I'm sure that you will be fine and probably ovulate tomorrow or on the weekend or something. I just wanted to say that even if the worst case scenario happens, you can still get pg.
So since the worst case scenario won't happen you are probably almost knocked up already

Martha I was probably messtins at that point. Namechanged to a B name which was a bit of a thread theme at one point many moons ago to cash in on the thread good luck didn't turn out so well maybe I should change back

I am at risk of sounding like Tony Hancock today - they took six tubes of blood. I have none left for Thursday's leeches.

Bakingtins- sorry things are so tough. Hugs and from me. I know what you mean about wanting it/not wanting it etc.

Baking - 6 tubes! - that's nearly an armful!

(Sorry - couldn't resist)

Aly - I know EXACTLY how you feel!! My friend has exactly the same EDD that I had and also lives away (but is moving back in a couple of months unfortunately). We sent a message telling them what had happened and said we need to back off from them for a while (this was a week ago). She sent a lovely card today which I was trying to find fault in but couldn't and now I feel bad about shitting her off. I still don't want her to come to my wedding in a couple of months, but now don't feel I can tell her to stay away! Life is shit sometimes eh?

In other news, I went back for my weekly willy-cam sesh with Pam, my personal dildo-scanner as I am still bleeding 12 days post ERPC (now nearly 3 weeks in total since spotting began) and she said she can see some blood and clots in my very fricking empty uterus but no left over tissue so they want nature to take its course and it will come out on its own hopefully. They've booked me in for another scan in 2 weeks unless the bleeding stops on its own.

I got on the scales today thinking that I've probably lost a couple if pounds....no, it says I've put on nearly 6lbs in 11 days!! WTF???!!!!

I get married in 9 weeks and I'm the heaviest I've ever been and not even up-duffed!!!!!! Any advice other than jaw-wiring?

Love from el-fatty-bumbum.....

*shitting her off??? Where the hell did that come from? I meant brushing her off!! Hehe

Hi everyone, just dashing in and out as an way too busy and am in a total flap and I have itchy bits to boot which I won't mention

weasel why ectopic? Might there just be some retained product? I hope you get it sorted quickly whatever transpires.

fod I think that an anovulatory cycle is not unreasonable so soon after mc, or for things to be a bit all over the place. I was definitely told it might take a few cycles to get back to normal.

Hug for tins and anyone else that needs one x

hiya ladies can I join

I Had a miscarriage last week I was 5 +5 weeks. gutted!!

Hey thundercats can that be a reason? Any advice welcome, just had three blood tests done thu/sat/today and HCG has been 249/262/264. Miscarried nearly a week ago, lots of blood/clots etc (sorry if TMI) but all done naturally so retained product seems more likely that ectopic? Any thoughts anyone?!

Have scan at 8.15 tomorrow so fingers crossed I get some answers. Any 'I had something similar' comments v welcome...

Weasel, I'm sorry I just don't know that much about it- thinking about it you're thinking because your levels are still rising that your body still thinks its pg? Have you any other symptoms that might lead you to think its ectopic- like the cramps (which I understand are really bad- but I'm sure some of the other ladies can help with info). If they were worried about ectopic they'd have you in there straight away to get sorted.

Sorry I can't remember what the next step is...are you going in for a scan?

Hi mytwo, really sorry you are here.

Missed your last comment about scan! Try not to worry til then if you can weasel you will get your answers.

I had retained products and my hcg levels were around 500, then 450 2 days later. That was already almost 4 weeks post mc. the retained stuff measured 4x5x5cm, so quite large really.

sal I think it's quite normal to still be bleeding a bit after 12 days. I certainly was, after the medical and erpc stages. But more like brown spotting by 14 days

Hello Mytwo sorry you find yourself here.
Weasel hope you get some answers tomorrow.

I'm currently symptom spotting. Af due on sunday and I've had a bit of cramping and brownish discharge and wondering if it's implantation. The cramping feels similar to last time but didn't get the discharge before. I guess I'm just going to have to hold out to fertile Friday unless af gets me early! Anyone else joining me on Friday?

Weasel since the bloods are not really rising much (in an ongoing pregnancy you'd be expecting them to double every 48 hours) I think it's more likely you have some retained products. Hope the scan clears up any doubt and you can stop worrying about ectopic.

Hello mytwo

I wanted to add to the posts about the CBFM later but was on ipad and trying to type anything long winded makes me lose the will to live. I looked into it when I was having problems with it and is is basically much more simple than I thought. It looks for 2 hormones, oestrogen and luteinising hormone, but as soon as it detects them for the first time it stops looking IYSWIM. You get a 'high' as soon as it sees oestrogen and that will continue until it sees LH, when it gives you 'peak' for 2 days then 'low'. If it misses the LH then you just get 'high' for the remainder of your 20 sticks, irrespective of the fact that your oestrogen will disappear once you have ovulated. The 'learning your cycle' bit just means it will ask for a first stick later in subsequent cycles once it has an idea when you ovulate, but that only works if it detects ovulation in the first cycle. I have used it twice when TTC in the past with great success, but tried at the end of last summer and for 2 cycles it missed LH, so I spent £40 on sticks and learned nothing. It may help to change your testing window if this is happening to you, or go back to cheapie OPKs and test more than once a day when you think it's your fertile period. I'm not bothering, I've been doing this long enough to know my cycle and DTD several times over the days I'm most likely to ovulate.

Hey ladies - I'm cd15 today - waiting for ovulation which isn't due for ages thanks to my lovely lengthy cycles - still doing opks daily - oh how I love to POAS - any stick will do!!

Fod - the hospital told me that I may have a cycle where I don't have ovulation following the miscarriage - finished crossed for a positive opk for you soon xx

Weasel- hope youre ok and it's just retained products that are making your levels stay up- I'm no expert whatsoever.

Hello to mytwo- sorry you're here

I'm symptom spotting big time; will be testing on Friday. I don't have that pregnant "feeling" I don't think... Just sore boobs, tingly nipples, unbelievably emotional and hormonal and full of rage! plus super sensitive to the smell of car fumes, which was a major symptom in all of my last pregnancies. I just don't know how much of it is my body playing tricks on me. I know that if it is bfp, I'll be so terrified of something going wrong again.

Hey sounds like there are some congratulations in order this week!

That sounds all exciting Booty, as does the others who have had BFPs since Friday!

I'm still ticking along 2 1/2 weeks since ERPC, having been on holiday last week there was quite a bit of dtd but with no idea whether i will ovulate this month or not but it was fun! (sorry if tmi!)

I think if AF shows no sign of arriving by end of the month i will poas

Sorry i can't help with anyone with CBFM but not owning one i have no idea how they work, I used OPKs last time and hit first time

Hi Blackholes sounds like we are in the same boat. Im also wondering if my mind and body are playing tricks on me. Fingers crossed for Friday!

Indeed, liesl!

I'm sorry I'm pretty rubbish at the advice, having never used a cbfm and been lucky enough (?!) not to have needed an erpc. Still offering handholding though!

I've just checked fb. You guessed it; two pregnancy announcements, due around the times of my two miscarriages! Literally one announcement after the other. Bit gobsmacked to be honest!

Sorry for some reason the post i wrote last night seems to have posted itself tonight, so appears all out of sync with today's conversations.

Sal - I know the feeling with putting on weight, i put 3 pounds on before going on holiday (trust me i can't afford too) but now am properly back at work and generally trying to eat healthier (not the stuffing face with Chocolate!)

Mummy - I loved rule 6 - stating a woman may pee on an actual stick as often as they liked!

Crossing fingers for those hopeful poas-ing on Friday!

Sorry, the would-be due dates of my two miscarried babies, I mean,