The Elderberry Pavlovas are pimping everyday – a lovely thread for 30+ ladies TTC #1 (Thread 7)

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Newbies very welcome provided they meet the entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 3+months, must have a special pot, NO instadiffers) and bring a bouquet of sausages when they join!

Cherry just basic tests, first step of the infertility journey I guess, days 3 and day 24 blood tests, not really sure what they're for, I think one is to check for ovulation.

Hello! Saw gyn this evening. He was LOVELY. Listened to me and took me seriously. Did not mention that things could settle down by themselves or tell me to wait and see. He did say that he didn't think it was anything serious, but wants to get some tests done to see what is going on. He thinks I am not ov. So had bloods taken this evening and am going back for dildo cam. Nice. He said he may put me on meds to stimulate ov, but would have to see what the tests say. The bloods were all hormone ones that you have on certain days of cycle, which of course I can have altogether as who knows where I am.
Do it, cherry, it's good to get some answers.
Am encourage by the opk, but have had positives before and no bfp, so not holding my breath. Dtd this envy, but was no conclusion, ifyswim. Hoping the ewcm sticks around for another day......hmmmm.

P.S. chuffed for other berries getting appointments. Hurray!

merk sorry about af. Burn the book!!

*this evening

Yay cats sounds like a positive appointment!

Accidentally watching Home Delivery. Haven't got to any upsetting bits yet but I'm wary. I shouldn't really be watching. dh is asleep next to me and I need to have a shower before bed. can't drive a train smelly! Its drawing me in though.

And cats that sounds fantastic! a step in the correct direction!!!

cats sounds like a very positive appointment

merk back tracking a bit here, but how long are your cycles? I don't Ov until sometime around cd19-24 It's a ridiculous wait after each AF until the next chance!!

My SiL (well, DP's SiL) appears to have blocked me on fb. I'd hidden her updates from my newsfeed so I didn't have to read all the pregnancy updates, but DP said she'd been poorly and was in hospital for fluids as she'd been sick (not pg related apparently) so I looked to see if she'd posted anything today and I couldn't find her! She's not in my friends list and when I searched for her name she didn't come up! She's still there on DP's fb. No idea what's going on, I haven't been in touch with her since we visited at Christmas, and that's normal. Trying to not get worked up about it but it's annoying because I can't find out without asking directly and I don't want to start anything. This is the woman that didn't speak to her father in law for years because of a tiny thing he did that no one else could see a problem with.

that's very odd. I don't understand people doing that at the time that they need support from friends and family the most!

She sounds like the barking one TBH Barking I'd either let it go without comment or possibly send her an innocent friend request with a 'I don't know wht happened, duh Facebook, would be nice to stay in touch and hear about your stoopid updates' type message. From what you've said she seems fickle and flighty so try not to take it personally!

I'm so pleased your apt went well cats. Hurrah for lovely consultant! Dildo cam, not so much, but at least it'll get you some answers and will be a means to an end even if the prospect is not so attractive!

Bunny that's great. I can't really help on the technical know-how but like you say it's sure to be about your hormone profile at different times of your cycle and whether you OV or not.

I hope I can actually get to the docs for snow this morning phone consultations are much more tricky...

Tummy ache this morning really fecked off and trying not to cry

Oh no bunny sorry to hear that
cherry that's just it, I can't send her a fb message as I can't even find her, which means I must have been blocked not just de friended. Most bizarre. Maybe it's because I didn't comment on her pg but we found out by text and DP replied by text, I didn't see the need to get involved.

Anyone got snow this morning?

Home Delivery was actually quite nice in the end - the midwife was lovely & it was actually quite a good advert for home births if when I get there.

CD17 today & still no sign of O . Tested yesterday evening & this morning & no second line & no temp rise so I don't think I've missed it. Given DP didn't get home till 1.15am & I got up at 6am so there was def no DTD it's good in that respect but given my average cycle is 28 days if I haven't got any signs of O by the weekend then I'm in the short LP club aren't I? (Monday would be 9 days) If no sign of O at all this cycle then should I book a drs appt? I'm 36 so they shouldn't make me wait 12m for a referral right?

Sorry for all the questions but I am getting a bit down & worried about it all now. I really wasn't expecting to find this out when I started temping & PIMPing

How long have you been ttc and is this your first cycle temping? With the temping alone it can take a couple of cycles to spot the pattern. From what I have read the opks can be easy to miss sometimes. Last cycle was my first with the opks and I only got one positive, when I tested in the evening. Have you had any faint lines which might indicate it's on it's way? I used the stupidly expensive cbfm so I overlapped this with starting on the opks which meant I had a clear idea of when I was expecting the opk to be positive which was a bit like cheating really! merk is the currently resident but soon to be merely visiting expert on opks.
General advice seems to be you have to wait a year of ttc before referral to a clinic, but in some places if you're over 35 or can prove a problem they will refer you after 6 months.
Also, not everyone ovulates every month so hold off the panic if you can!
Have you got a link to a chart we could all stare have a look at?

This is cycle 5 of TTC properly i.e. sticking AF dates in an app to try & predict O but only cycle 1 of temping & OPKs (& using FF instead of the other apps tho I did input the previous 4 cycles of AF data into FF). I've been getting faint lines for about a week now but they don't seem to get any darker. I've sent my chart link to my e-mail so will post that up when it comes through & you can all have a good nosy analysis.

Here you go:

FertilityFriend.com/home/430fb8/

Looking at it I guess my coverline could be around 36.1, O could have been CD9 onwards & I just missed it on the OPK if it was a v short surge. That would just make my CD15 temp a bit of an aberration for some reason & 36.3 my normal post O temp.

I would go along with that explanation except I haven't seen anything ressembling EWCM though or even watery CM & I know I do get it sometimes. Guess it's a keep on with the OPKs & wait & see what happens next month!

Not sure I inserted that link properly so just in case:

Longing for the days when the elusive O meant something so different

Crap crap crap. Had my apt this morning for my blood test results. Suspected primary ovarian failure leading to premature menopause is the diagnosis.

Off to BUPA hospital on Monday for a second opinion, Dr organising us a rush apt at the fertility clinic, DP getting referral for semen analysis. More bloods. Lots of tears. Fuckety shite.

Oh Cherry I'm so sorry. And there's me worrying about one month when I'm struggling to find an O when at least AF is still visiting so I know that something is happening. I'm such a selfish cow. Fingers crossed that the NHS have got it wrong & that BUPA / fertility clinic can come up with something for you. and big hugs. Hope DP is looking after you.

Oh my goodness cherry that's horrible . Wouldn't even have considered that a possibility at our age. Hopefully they are wrong. Glad they're rushing everything through and fx crossed you get some answers and a positive way forwards on Monday. Look after yourself. Hope DP is being supportive.

frog you've got a lot of open circles, how far out from the normal time are they? Are you taking your temperature as soon as you wake up without moving? It's possible that O was CD9 as you say but I think a whole month will show a pattern better.

Just noticed all your temps are to one decimal point, if you don't have a more accurate thermometer it would be worth getting one as you don't know what's being rounded up or down. You could get a very different picture. I've been temping 9 months now and a lot of the time my temps are moving up and down it's within a decimal point.

Thanks barking. I am taking temp as soon as I wake up but I get up at two different times during the week when I work in different places! The "proper" ones are about 6am & the open circles about 7am I think. I have had a bit of a cold this month so that could have affected some of them I suppose.

Noted about the thermometer. I bought it without realising it should be a special BBT one so thought I'd see how it went before spending more money! I'll order one online for next month & see if it makes a difference.

Oh my god Cherry, that is one fucked up diagnosis, I'm so sorry. Are there chances to fix it or work around it in some way or don't you know yet?