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TTC 10 + months, part 14 (eek)

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GinSoaked · 15/03/2013 10:03

A friendly, supportive thread for lovely ladies taking waaay longer than they ever expected to win their babies

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mrsden · 02/05/2013 17:17

Wow 14is amazing critter!

Today has been full of so much baby news.bumps everywhere, scan photos, birth announcements. It's so hard when you're on the 2ww and want to bury your head. Still nothing in the way of symptoms. Will poas on Sunday, and then blood test on wed. How are you getting on nelly & mad?

Euro, exciting! Do you have to do anything before ec in a natural cycle ivf?

EuroShaggleton · 02/05/2013 18:10

How odd. I posted here earlier but it seems to have disappeared.

Welcome Lynsey. You do have time in your favour, but I know this is hard however old you are.

Not long to go now, mrsd!

Yep, I'm sticking with natural. For now, I'm willing to treat the mc as just bad luck and give it another go, because it got us a BFP. Last time I had 4 scans in the run up to EC, to monitor follie growth and time the trigger shot. It was all reasonably easy (apart from the menkulling).

TheRealRamona · 02/05/2013 20:58

Evening ladies, what a lush day! I'm loving the warmth of the sun rather than the central heating for a change.

Wow, critter, 14 fertilised! That's amazing! All that and robin rescuing too. Go critterettes!

Welcome lyndsey, I am sorry to hear you are feeling fed up, I know that feeling well. You'll find great advice and support here though Smile

Thanks for the thoughts on acu nelly, euro and joy. I've booked my first appointment and consultation for a weeks' time, and I've been diligently reading The Baby-making Bible which he recommended. Although now I'm even more worried about the amount I stress about things (the irony of this is not lost on me), so I really hope the acu will help me relax a bit more! I know what you mean about finding the right person. There was nothing wrong with the lady I went to before, and she did make some progress with some of my pmt symptoms, but I never really felt comfortable or relaxed. I can't even really explain why. Fingers crossed this is the right one, I can't keep paying for the initial consultations each time Hmm

pout hope you get to enjoy your lazy bank holiday weekend. I have been trapped in the garden by many a hovering (not hoovering thank you autocorrect) hornet; they are tiny bullies.

The veggie patch sounds lovely sweet, and good to hear you are feeling pregnant.

Nelly I've also heard that a cold in early pregnancy is a good thing. I hope you are doing ok.

Not much to report here, day 6 of clomid, no terrible side effects as yet. So all being well, it should be a bonk holiday weekend here. MrR has everything crossed for the swift return of the ginormous boobage Grin

Hope everyone is doing well, waves to lemons, mrsd, sea and anyone I've missed

buzzybee123 · 02/05/2013 22:04

euro your time has come round quite quickly, well maybe not for you :)

pout a bit of fly spray perhaps

critter that is a footy team with subs, well done :)

lyndsey welcome, I agree with others about going to GP in a couple of months for some tests, but hopefully it will happen for you naturally

lemon I hope you have a good weekend, and some time to relax and just be

mrsd fingers crossed for Sunday

nelly and madness fingers crossed for you two

I am stupidly busy and have so much I need to do, but yay to no more work, I did get some good non TTC news about my feet, they can operate on both, so if IVF doesn't work then I'll book that in, I'm not sure if i'm more excited about them saying yes or the thought of having 6-8 weeks off work. Barry is very optimistic as he said ' well you won't your feet your doing until junior is a few months old' bless him, I worry that he will be heart broken if it doesn't work, oh well I think its time for bed now :)

MuddyWellyNelly · 03/05/2013 07:24

14 is amazing Critter!!

V quick. I just did my "prove the hcg has gone test" an there is a very very very faint line. I'm 9dpo. Please tell me this is still left over from Mondays booster and doesn't mean anything more. I need a serious talking to.

GinSoaked · 03/05/2013 09:54

Oh nellie I so hope this is it for you! I know with a trigger short it can take 7-10 days for it to be out of your system, but I don?t know if the shot you did is a smaller amount of hcg? Also were you testing daily and did the line disappear and then reappear? If you test tomorrow at the same time, you can see if the line has got a bit darker, which would DEFINITELY be a good sign. Re the cold thing, during my 2ww after the FET I woke every morning with what felt a bit like a cold, but it disappeared once the day went on. Just saying?.

Wowzers critter 14 embryos is amazing!! I hope you aren?t feeling too sore. I?m super impressed that you?re up and about and out for dinners. I felt far too shit to do much after EC. Do watch the bloating and give your clinic a call if you end up with a preggo stomach. I felt bloated after EC, but it did go down after a few days.

buzzy I?m loving Barry?s optimism! I?m sooo excited on your behalf. Do you know when EC will be? Grin at being excited about having time off work post foot op. Kayla would love that. Did you find someone to look after her? If I was nearer, I?d def offer steal her!

Ramona I?m still sniggering at the bonk holiday. Fingers crossed the clomid does its job. I too am loving the sunshine. The vitamin D is good for us, don?t ya know?

Hurrah for almost being back on the AC bandwagon euro. I think this has every chance of working for you. In an odd way, I kinda miss the clinic. Wish I could stay with them for all the antenatal stuff.

mrsd how are you doing? If you do test early, you mustn?t take any negative as a definitive answer. My first bfp was so so faint on 13 dpo. I didn?t test before day 13, so not sure if it?d have shown at all or not.

pout hope the evil hornet has buggered off! We need to do some cleaning this weekend, sigh.

grouch :) at the randomly peeing on sticks thing. I?ve finally stopped doing them, but have a fine collection of stripy ones in my bedside cabinet which probably smells of pee, yuck I need to get going on my veg patch. It?s been so cold here that I?ve not bothered with any tomatoes this year, but have some broad beans, garlic and strawberries planted and am going to sow some salad seed this weekend ? please stay away frost!

mad I hope you are doing ok too. I was horrified by your mum?s comment. IVF is no lunch time procedure, pain and risk free. I nearly ended up in A&E the first time and had internal ruptures from the vaginal packs, then was at high risk of OHSS the second time, a potentially life threatening condition. And think of poor joy black and blue from all the jabs. That?s just the physical side and then there?s the whole emotional side that we have to deal with. Having said that, I have a lovely friend who?s had to give birth twice and ended up with no baby, which I think must be the absolute worst.

Hi lyndsey I second what others have said about going to see the doc when you have been trying 12 months to get the basic tests done.

Big loves to lemons. Hope you have a lovely, relaxed weekend planned.

sea wow, they are v.v. thorough with all the tests! I had just the basics that they make you do, before they let you do ivf, but I guess we are explained so there wasn?t much point doing much else. When do you think you?ll get round to IVF? Have you stopped the iui?

sar hope you aren?t feeling too poorly.

Waves to everyone else.

I?m working from home today, which is ace. I intend to have lunch in the sunshine outside. Also the fact I can eat whenever I want and not have to move too much, means that the nausea is being kept at bay. And I can mumsnet. It?s a win win situation :)

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buzzybee123 · 03/05/2013 10:13

gin EC is on Monday, Barry has said he doesn't want to try anymore naturally to which I agree, I am tired of the monthly rollercoaster and constantly popping pills, I don't care if I don't have sex for ages too, time to call it a day on this thing,

we have quite a long slightly mad list for the two people coming to look after Kayla, I have been frantically cleaning, there is nothing like the idea of people noseying around your home when you are not there to make you get on with things Grin

Pam and Pete (the pigeons) are back they must sense we are going away with their squatter radar but Kayla is having none of it, we could be having pigeon pie tonight :)

nelly it will be the last of the HCG leaving your body, test in a few days when you know the line will be for real :)

MuddyWellyNelly · 03/05/2013 10:21

I am jealous of the sunshine, it's drizzly here.

Gin Mondays shot was only 8 clicks. I think about a 1/5th of the pen, maybe even less. Stupidly I didn't test every day so I don't know if its done this \ or this /. If that means anything! I'm 11 days post trigger so I doubt it's that but just not sure about Mondays. It's a bit lighter than Tuesdays line but not heaps, so I'm inclined to allow the teensiest bit of hope to creep in. I am not sure whether to test again tomorrow or wait a day or two. 9DP0 would be very early for a bFP.

MrsD how are you holding up? The waiting is rubbish. I wish I could hold everybody's hand!

Buzzy sooo exciting about your trip, and your feet. I love Barry's optimism. When I showed MrN the line this morning I expected him to tell me I was imagining it; but he saw it and agreed it could be the / option as above. I loved him for that Smile.

Right I am secret posting in the loos. Better get back to work. Also chuckling at bonk holiday. Oh wondering how zippy is getting on with the clomid. And Rabbit, how are the sore boobs?

ThatWayMadnessLies · 03/05/2013 10:30

Step away from the sticks nelly. It is too soon. I will need you to tell me the same next week!! When is otd? I am planning on testing the day before but no earlier.

Way to go critter!!!!!! 14 fertilized is phenomenal. I am so pleased for you. You'll have your pick of the blasts i bet Grin.

Good luck with the travel buzzy. We also were quite relieved to stop having to try naturally. Everyone needs a break from time to time.

I'm still feeling bloated and need people to tell me that no cold isn't a bad sign now!!! Symptom spotting is the pits. Today is day 5 so is plantation likely from now?

Must get back to work. sorry for the quick post.

ThatWayMadnessLies · 03/05/2013 10:31

Implantation Blush

EuroShaggleton · 03/05/2013 10:49

nelly I really hope this is it for you. I was still getting a hint of a line at 8dpo and then didn't test again until 12dpo, when there was a very faint but distinct line there.

buzz what are you having done to your feet?

I completely understand the need to stop trying naturally. Because of Mr euro's ishoos, we haven't been in with a chance for these two cycles post-mc and whilst it was a bit frustrating as I had been holding out hope that the post-mc fertility boost might put us in with a chance, in one way it has been lovely to just be away from ttc for a bit. I feel more like my old self than I have done in ages and actually happy. In a strange way I feel like the mc has helped me. (Now this is a bit woo, particularly for me, but I'm going to throw it out there.) I had been feeling guilty for a long time about some stupid stuff I had done in the past and people I had treated badly, and one day when I was mcing and feeling very low, I felt like I had suffered enough, and it was time to forgive myself and stop being so hard on myself. Anyway, coming back down to the practical stuff, we have 3 more cycles planned - two natural and probably one mild as a last hurrah - and then I think it will be time for us to leave this period of our lives behind, whatever the outcome.

Gin I have kept my pee sticks in a box for future reference! It's in our guest bathroom. I must remember to remove it before we have guests...

Your poor friend. I can't imagine what that must be like. I have a FB friend who I knew at primary school and then lost touch with for years before connecting on FB. She posts about stillborn charities and painful days. It must be awful.

mad I think 7-10 days is average for implanation isn't it (?), so you're almost there. I'm not sure about that one though. I think the blasts have to hatch first and that happens at around 6 dpo or something?

MuddyWellyNelly · 03/05/2013 11:39

The voice of reason from Mad and Buzzy. Thank you Smile. I'm sure it's just drug related but I'm enjoying the bubble of hope too!

Buzzy wow it's all happening soon. Will it go to blast stage, assuming all goes well? ET next weekend? How exciting!! Do you have a scan to check linings etc before you go?

Euro I think your story makes perfect sense and isn't too woo at all. But I'm sorry you've had to suffer so much Hmm.

Mad the cold is a real cold and definitely not a symptom. Lots of people get a BFP without a cold. I made the mistake of reading about blastos the other day and the page I read was extolling the virtues. So much so it made me very upset that I'm not able to get to that stage. So I've had to give myself a slap and remind myself it's not the only way to get a good result. The process is so variable. It really must be more down to luck than the scientists want you to believe Hmm.

mrsden · 03/05/2013 12:08

Ohhhhh nelly that does sound promising. Was it one of those tests that are supposed to be work 4 days before af is due?

I will not test before Sunday, I'm pretty sure it will be negative. The bill arrived today, I like the way they send it before you know the result Smile it was cheaper than I was expecting.

mrsden · 03/05/2013 12:27

Nelly, are you two days behind me? I had ec on the 22nd. I think that makes me 11dpo, so you're only 9? That would be early to get a bfp but not impossible with an early test, fingers crossed x

MuddyWellyNelly · 03/05/2013 13:05

Yes 2 days behind you so 11 days since trigger. You are being very strong! I've just ordered more cheapy tests so I guess I'll be on daily checks Wink

MuddyWellyNelly · 03/05/2013 13:06

Ps they apparently work 5 days before Grin

mrsden · 03/05/2013 13:12

I'm not being strong, but I know in my heart it hasn't worked so I'm putting off the inevitable doom and gloom I'm going to feel when I Do test. I always think when people test early its because they have an inkling they're pregnant, so I think it's looking good for you. Do you have any symptoms?

MuddyWellyNelly · 03/05/2013 13:20

Whoops it is only 4 days. Guess that answers my question .

Not cool on receiving the bill MrsD. Though we have to pay it all upfront which is really gambling!

MuddyWellyNelly · 03/05/2013 13:26

Cross post. I hate this part, the waiting is interminable. But you don't really know it hasn't worked - remember Gin, keep repeating that to yourself.

I confess I do have this sort of feeling that it might be good news; and then I correct myself and think I'm talking Shoite. I have no basis for feeling this way, no symptoms, just ridiculous blind optimism. I don't know where it came from and I could be hurtling towards a very big crash. I do have some low grade womble stuff still but nothing you could differentiate from general through-the-cycle stuff.

I am officially crazy. And hogging the thread. I hope the weather is nice this weekend otherwise I will be on here annoying you all too much Smile

I so hope you are wrong, and that Sunday brings a squint or you'll miss it line for you.

GinSoaked · 03/05/2013 13:40

mrsd I genuinely had no idea it had worked. All of my symptoms were the same as my pre-period ones. In fact, I was so convinced it hadn't worked 7 dpt, that I lugged some really heavy stuff about at work and that ha at least I can do this!

nellie before the actual transfer, I too had a funny feeling that the fet would work, mostly cos I had a very vivid dream about seeing a stripy pee stick. Mental I know. It meant I was particularly devastated when I thought it hadn't worked.

I have everything crossed for you both and for Mad and Critter

mad I think implantation will be in a few days time. After our blast transfer, we were told it would "swim about" for a few days. My terrible period type pains were 11 dpo, but must have been the end of implantation? The very first mini-bout of nausea began the very next day and assumed it was my period causing it.

Oh euro so sorry about your suffering, but pleased to hear that you have found something positive in it. The whole suffering relieving guilt sounds very biblical. But remember you totally didn't deserve what happened to you and no one should go through that. I think my friend is ttc again now and I hope that if my bean works out, she'll take it ok. She has been so incredible strong and been through such a shitty time.

buzzy I agree with the whole stopping ttc naturally - we had/have given up. Re sex, what's that?! Despite the clinic telling me it's fine, I've been too scared to try and tbh dildo cam felt a bit sore, so don't really fancy much else up there! You must let us know how EC goes. And remember you are likely to get some frosties too.

Must.Do.Some.Work. Argh.

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seaviewasia · 03/05/2013 14:07

Buzzy ? Fingers crossed for Monday. I totally agree about trying naturally, after a while it takes it out of you. Hope Kayla won?t miss you and Barry too much or bring any pigeons home tonight Smile

Mad ? Don?t worry about the lack of cold symptoms. So many diffed ladies seem to have no symptoms at all. Best thing to do is to relax and do something fun for the weekend. You will know soon enough.

Mrsd ? Don?t think negative thoughts. It?s not over? Amazed your clinic send the bill after the IVF. All the places I have been to make you pay for everything before you do it, even tests. Think positive thoughts? not long now?

Nelly ? Looks promising? Agree with Mad it?s probably best to stay away from the sticks. I know it must be hard not knowing. There is so much science still doesn?t know..

Thinking positive thoughts and keeping fingers & toes crossed Mad, Mrsd & Nelly.

Euro ? It doesn?t sound woo at all. I think we are all flawed individuals and no one is perfect but none of this is your ?fault?. Being able to forgive others and ourselves is important. Glad you will be starting again.

Gin ? you sound like you are in a good place which is lovely to read. I hope you are taking it easy. Your lunch in the sun sounds fab.

Grouch ? your vegetable patch sounds great. Very relaxing and healthy? Hope you are taking it easy and feeling well.

Thinking sticky bean thoughts for Gin, Sar & Grouch

Critter ? how are you doing? When do you do ET?

Ramona ? I?m a big acu fan and Chinese meds in general. I have read the Emma Cannon book too. She has some great recipes which are really tasty. Not sure if you follow her blog but she is doing some fertility talks soon at her clinic if you are interested I will send you the links. I hope the Clomid works for you. Most people don?t get side effects and it can work for some. Good luck.

Waves to lemon, joy, pout, rabbit & anyone else I have missed.

Happy Friday...Smile

mrsden · 03/05/2013 14:21

euro I can't tell you how many times I've wondered if this is some sort of bad karma/payback for something I've done in the past. I'm no saint but I have never done anything to deliberately hurt other people and I've led a fairly non controversial life but I've still wondered if someone somewhere isn't trying to make me pay for something. But, life isn't like this. When I hear about old school friends who really weren't and probably still aren't nice people and I see they've got umpteen kids I see that this isn't the way it works. Shit things happen to good people. And you are one of these good people. I think your mc was pure bad luck. It is great that natural ivf has a good chance of working for you, you know your eggs can be fertilised and get to the embryo stage, you will get there!

gin thank you for reassuring me. I think I've got good intuition and I have never really felt that this round will work, I have no idea why not. If I had just one symptom then I might be a little hopeful. I had the tiniest of brown spotting today so I'm thinking af might well turn up before test day, is the progesterone supposed to keep it away?

mad how are you doing? It's funny to think of the little embie floating around isn't it?

seaviewasia · 03/05/2013 14:28

Gin - I meant to say I really feel for your friend. Having to going through a stillborn birth must be devastating... twice is unimaginable. Shock

In answer to your questions, I have stopped the IUI. I had another go available to me but with the cycle monitoring at the new clinic I thought it was best to leave it. No idea when I will do ivf as the elevated cytokines needs to be resolved first. I imagine a few months.

MuddyWellyNelly · 03/05/2013 14:32

Mad and Sea the stick use is a planned strategy Wink. I decided on my plan, but the spanner in the works was today should have been stripe-free! I will now continue to test daily as I want to know if it goes white again; then I know it was a false positive. Or I want to see it go darker. Obviously the latter is best! I take comfort in this method, where others prefer to keep the (possibly harsh) reality away for longer. Even if its negative every day then I can still say "never mind it's too early" yet at the same time be a bit more prepared come OTD.

I will however try to refrain from boring you all with it Grin

But on that point can I just overshare about progesterone poo!! I tend towards the bunged up so its good to have a ahem looser movement, but its a bit OTT at the moment!

What does everyone have planned for the bank hols, apart from bonking. Grin

seaviewasia · 03/05/2013 14:46

Nelly - you are a brave lady! Daily testing sounds nerve-racking. Pls share your findings. I hope you are using cheapies!!Smile

It's Mr Sea's birthday this weekend. We have a party planned. Will also be viewing some flats although why I don't know... no baby means no reason to move really. Looking forward to the long weekend.

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